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Old 05-23-2015, 10:24 AM   #1
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Zip Dee Awnings

We are considering installing "street side" and/or rear window Zip Dee awnings on our 30' Flying Cloud, but I cannot find anything on what I can expect them to cost installed. Help?
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:32 AM   #2
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Try calling them

Elk Grove Village, IL 60007
800-338-2378 847-437-0980

I think they will install them.

Depending where you live that might not be an option

You could have them shipped to an Airstream Dealer, or RV Service center. In which case…ask them for an installation charge.

Depending on size of awnings ,….grand total could get close to $2000. But I am just guessing.
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:34 AM   #3
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Installation is the least of your worries, shipping is the killer!

Don't forget, you're shipping a 30' steel tube by truck!

You might consider visiting ZipDee if near Chicago!
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:46 AM   #4
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The factory charge is $1812.00 on a new build for a 30ft At least it a guide to go by!
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:52 AM   #5
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I did some of the math

The awning would be more like 21' for a 30' trailer.

Take 30 feet and subtract the curved front and back where the awning can't be mounted, and subtract the length of the tongue.

The tongue is part of the 30 feet on a 30 foot trailer. Right?

Also, you could just put awnings over the windows. You probably wouldn't be hanging out on that side of the trailer
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Old 05-23-2015, 11:33 AM   #6
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I'm not so sure

Instalation cost could be a a big factor. Mechanics and RV techs charge from $75 to $100 per hour in many shops. Instalation of two awnings could be a couple or four hours. That could be near 25% of the cost of materials. Which to me would be a factor.

Granted, I have no idea what shipping would be. I know weight and size plays a part in the cost of shipping.
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Old 05-23-2015, 11:46 AM   #7
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The norm is awning on curb side not door side is cover rear most window attach to closest rib behind window, full side extra money & no need for extra length. Measure from front rib behind front rivet line [rib] at front curve back to where want awning to end. ZipDee will fab. any size that includes inches in measurement. If ordering awning to install your self or some other than ZipDee make sure measurements are accurate. When I pur last ZipDee went to fact. they measured very accurate but wrong measurement for street side was entered wrong in computer, was to short, they made new one rite size, so mistakes can be made. You make error your prob. I think ZipDee very good awning and very good customer relations I pur. one of first made. Rear window attaches at rivet line edge of window. Projections for these 2 are standard no reason to measure this. If you order they will help you how to measure
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Old 06-10-2015, 01:48 PM   #8
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ZIP DEE cost

FWIW I recently got an estimate for a 13ft awniong...it goes on a 23' safari

Cost of the awning and hardware is $1728 labor @ $300, 3 hrs including travel and $325 to crate and ship.

I sure wish there was a less costly, quality alternative awning and source to get one like Camping world.
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Old 06-10-2015, 01:55 PM   #9
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Jack,

Sounds like a trip to the north suburbs is in order. They sell out their door (maybe cheaper?), no shipping, and they do installs, I believe. I've been there a couple times getting bits and a rug for my brother-in-law.

I do recommend you get one long awning for streetside. Factory is a small one over the rear window and a longer one over dinette and LR window (in my layout).....thaht leaves the fridge skin area exposed to direct sun. I believe the fridge could keep up better if it were in the shade of an awning.
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:27 PM   #10
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I went to Elk Grove village [Zip-Dee] they measured installed door side full length street side over windows almost full length , over rear window. They fab. awning to size then installed less than 4 hrs. plus entered wrong dim. street side remade no extra chg. for there mistake, if you measure wrong it's yours. They are very friendly people and exc. serv. Door side 20ft 11.25 in. street side15ft 10.25in rear window 47in. lift handle ctr. rafter inst. $380.00 total charge $3932 81. This was done 4/4 2012.
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:34 PM   #11
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We are having the rear and street side awnings installed on our 2015 25 ft International at our local dealer (Desert Autoplex in Mesa AZ) and the cost is approximately $2500. We went with the full length on the street side. Everyone that i have talked to recommends the awning package.
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Old 06-11-2015, 05:26 AM   #12
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Get the awning. It will make the heat load on your AS much less... and provide shade options.

Be careful if and when it is windy... it is possible to damage your awning and AS when the wind gets moving... Oh.. ask when you buy if they can put the logo on the awning rain flap... it will appear original..
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:27 AM   #13
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Here's a picture of my 27' 2001 Safari. I had the dealership add this awning to the street side of the trailer to help control the heat gain on this side. Also note that the attachment hook for the rolled out awning is in the blue belt decal. It helped greatly in keeping the trailer cooler. I added it due to issues in keeping the trailer cool in very hot weather.

The dealer's installer errored on drilling the original holes tor the arms. First thing he showed me when I picked it up was that I had some new rivets. He noted that these were the holes that they incorrectly drilled. The rivets were in line vertically with the existing rivets and for all intents looked as if the trailer came with them, so no harm done in my eyes. I don't have a picture of the awning extended but if you imaging the strap extended to the hook at that baseline stripe, you can imagine the look.

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Old 06-12-2015, 06:05 AM   #14
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Thanks for all the posts. We will probably pursue an install this fall.
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Old 08-08-2017, 10:57 AM   #15
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Awning Stops While Extending

Our power awning occasionally stops its operation when extending. It extends about 2 feet and as soon as the motors in the side arms turn on to raise the awning, it stops and sits there. Retracts normally and after 1-2 attempts, it works as expected. Thoughts? 2017 Classic.
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Our power awning occasionally stops its operation when extending. It extends about 2 feet and as soon as the motors in the side arms turn on to raise the awning, it stops and sits there. Retracts normally and after 1-2 attempts, it works as expected. Thoughts? 2017 Classic.
Funny thing you mention that - Had the exact same behavior happen last week.

Extended 2-3 feet and stopped. Light on the switch was solid green on "open".

I closed it, then hit open again and it worked fine second time around........
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Old 08-18-2017, 08:05 AM   #17
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Zip Dee Relax Awning

I purchased my trailer used about a year ago. It had just been updated with the new roller motor and circuit board. I really like the awning and have not had any problems with it.
I know there is a chance that I will have retraction problems, so I want to be prepared. I did not receive all of the tools referenced in Zip Dee's manual retraction procedure. I called Zip Dee to purchase them. They were very nice and mailed me the tools without charge. When I received them there was a larger hex rod about 6" long in the kit that was not referenced in the retraction procedure. I called Zip Dee to see what it was. They informed me that awnings with the updated motor could be retracted using this rod and and an electric drill without the need of removing the gas rafters, without the need of using the original winding tool, and without the need of removing the head bolt. This greatly simplifies the manual retraction procedure. I advised them that this information is not on their website. They were very nice, but as of now they do not have a written procedure for manual retraction with the updated motor.
I think this is info that all relax awning owners should be aware of. Is anyone else aware of this? Has anyone used this new method?
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Old 09-27-2017, 05:35 AM   #18
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Jack46, depending on your local conditions, take wind into account. I live in a freakishly windy place and the giant door side awning on my 31' is a forever stressing out the hardware and caulk in wind forcing me to repeatedly stow deply stow deploy, whereas the multiple smaller awnings on the other side are able to go through most wind with ease.
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Old 06-17-2020, 01:46 PM   #19
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Determing AGE of ZIP DEE awning + Higher WINDS ?please?

AGE determination of ZipDee awnings?
Serial #104791 "Code AS3" ?
I bought 1st AS, 1st trailer ever 6 / 2019... ZipDee must be newer judging from condition--and remnants of previous bolted on awning.
Vintage AS's = FABULOUS experience for DIY'rs
(my car is '83 Mercedes diesel 240D--you get picture if you've ever baby'd one of those...these are NOT "complaints.")
Agree or disagree, if you please? If my older Zip Dee feels like it's deploying / closing as smoothly as reasonably possible...
Also now, with a year's experience, whereas I don't mind doing so...
is it not best to ...deploy / close... as often as higher winds make you feel you'd be safer to do so versus ... cutting back on number of days deployed, etc. (Southern California weather is such that that's do-able).
(And never leaving it / walking away with awning up--'got that.)
Re restoration / maintenance...I'm guessing mine was relatively unused--
fabric looks excellent, blue and white stripes...plan to soft-brush and wash up near where fabric meets its holder on top edge--there's discoloration--
the rest could hardly look nicer.
PS...my year (?) ZipDee has a "lock" on right / forward end only;
it's on curb side... 'was interested--in the how-to-deploy videos that lock isn't present;
BTW the lock switch feels as smoothly operating "as a light switch" as someone here said.
Warmest regards and thanks from SoCal
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Funny thing you mention that - Had the exact same behavior happen last week.

Extended 2-3 feet and stopped. Light on the switch was solid green on "open".

I closed it, then hit open again and it worked fine second time around........
Mine started acting up like this last summer. The issue gradually escalated to the point where it started blowing the fuse whenever I hit the open button. It is sitting at the local AS dealer as we speak. Control board, which I replaced last summer when things started to act up, and both arm motors shot according to the dealer who worked with Zip Dee to troubleshoot. I am not looking forward to the bill!
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