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06-19-2016, 12:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Boulder City
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Zip Dee Awning... Protocol avoiding Disaster
These points are among some everyone needs to be aware. This includes the WBCCI and Boondocker trailer owners of any brand. Part of this post was among another Thread, but I should have saved myself some criticism and started a Thread on my own. If YOU find this offensive... good. You might have saved your awning if you consider each point.
Common Sense is not common, nor gifted to everyone. For 'Boondockers', substitute any term you like that fits your use and maintenance of your trailer.
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Boondockers understand that having an extended awning comes with caveats.
-Wind. The awning is not designed to handle gusts nor steady winds. Adjust for the conditions. Your support rods can bend and be damaged.
-Rain. You need common Boondocking understanding to have your door entry awning set higher than the opposite end. This way the water does not pool, but runs off and away from your doorway. Pooling water on your awning WILL be fatal...
-Snow. Do not even have your awning extended as it will fail.
-Sunshine. When NOT in your trailer, lower your awning to the lowest setting to avoid all of the above.
-Evenings. It is best to roll your awning up. Unless you can predict the above conditions with a magic ball, it is 100% effective. If it is raining and you are in a sheltered area, secure the ends with some weight. Some disagree with that option, but that is their choice. Not mine.
-Experience. It is best that you and I learn from the misfortunes of others. This is a continuing learning experience. It is not by accident that the longer you own a trailer with an awning... you just might be able to help those in need of advice. It may not be well taken... but neither is forgetting to secure your hitch to the tow vehicle properly on that foggy drizzly morning vacation!
It is disappointing that you learned the hard way, but not the first. Be prepared to use common sense in the use of your awning. No Airstream Owner's manual will discuss these caveats for your awning's use and under what conditions.
I am sure you will be more careful in the future. It was not the failure of the awning, but your failure to apply common sense under possible conditions of use. This is intended to 'educate' those following your disaster, so others can learn.
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11-21-2016, 02:46 PM
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1988 34' Excella
Stanardsville
, Virginia
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Thanks Ray, I wish this info was in my manual before I tried to out guess the weather report and leave my awning deployed over night! I tend to learn things the hard way by trial and error.
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11-21-2016, 03:08 PM
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1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
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My daughter & I are OCD about our Zip Dee awnings. Our relatives have SOB ones & don't seem to care as much about theirs. Guess whose bent in half when it wasn't tilted in the rain......think they'll be OCD about theirs now, since it'll be new!
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1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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11-21-2016, 03:19 PM
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2016 25' Flying Cloud
Venice
, Florida
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No damage but almost. High wind developed after midnight as we enjoyed pleasant dreams.......fortunately my wife, a light sleeper woke me to retract the awning just before the gusts reached over 35mph & took out our neighbors awning. A lesson well learned!
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Venice, FL
2016 FC 25RTB
TAC FL-47
2018 Nissan Titan XD Cummins Diesel
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11-21-2016, 03:53 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Holly Springs
, Mississippi
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Boy, am I glad I read Ray's posts. I won't live long enough to make all the mistakes myself. Very nicely written head's up.
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2016 FC 25' FB twin
2013 F-150 Lariat CrewCab 3.5 EB 4X4 3.55 axle
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11-21-2016, 04:57 PM
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2018 27' International
Southeastern MI
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If you don't weave the strap back and forth while rolling it up it will not close properly
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Michelin 16” tires
Hensley Arrow hitch
Tow Vehicle: 2020 F-350 6.7L Diesel
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11-21-2016, 08:26 PM
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2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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Careful not to weave it back and forth too much or it will shorten the strap too much and it can get sucked inside the roll. Voice of experience.
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Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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11-21-2016, 08:48 PM
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2017 25' International
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Los Osos
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I always zip-tie my awning arms when rolling.
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2016 RAM 2500 Crew Cab Cummins 6.7 Diesel
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11-22-2016, 10:52 AM
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Newbie
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Tampa
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Join Date: Oct 2016
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Thanks for sharing these tips! I am guilty of not tilting when it was raining, but never again!
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11-22-2016, 12:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' International
Southeastern MI
, Michigan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
Careful not to weave it back and forth too much or it will shorten the strap too much and it can get sucked inside the roll. Voice of experience.
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I use the rod to retract it. I'm too short to hold the strap all the way in.
The rod to tighten the two wheels is also a bad idea. I use a little step stool and do it by hand.
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Michelin 16” tires
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11-22-2016, 07:15 PM
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1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
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We have a short window shade awning about 20 feet in length on the street side of our Limited. It does not have any lock downs while traveling.
I was caught in vicious crosswinds on eastern Colorado I-76 and the street side awning unrolled on me. It billowed up like a jib sale. I thought it might drag the trailer over on its side, or simple rip out the awning anchors. I rigged a hold down out of some rope and traveled on slowly. The gusts were over 50 mph. I had a hard time standing up in that damn wind. The semi trailers were really listing and fighting to steer straight.
It is a 30 year old Airstream. Maybe the retract springs are getting weak. But now I tie that awning down when traveling.
David
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11-23-2016, 06:02 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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Join Date: Nov 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Countryboy59
I use the rod to retract it. I'm too short to hold the strap all the way in.
The rod to tighten the two wheels is also a bad idea. I use a little step stool and do it by hand.
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Ditto,I find it easier and have better control to use a small 3 step ladder to safely open/close the awning and manipulate the awning locks.
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Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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