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Old 09-30-2022, 03:34 PM   #1
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Popping out awning.

I have a 2019 Flying Cloud 25 FB with the manual awning. I noticed the last time it was a little more difficult to "pop" in place or lock in place. It took more strength than usual. Is there a place I can lube the awning or spray WD-40? Any tricks you have are much appreciated!
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Old 09-30-2022, 04:49 PM   #2
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Zip Dee says "Do NOT use WD-40 on your awning.", it can etch aluminum and attract dirt. You should use silicone spray or dry lube.

It's good to lube the ends, lock down knobs, the bottom of the arms and where the arms slide.
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Old 09-30-2022, 05:23 PM   #4
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It helps to fully pull out the arms and clean them. Best to do this with the awning stowed. After that silicone spray as already mentioned.
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Old 09-30-2022, 06:13 PM   #5
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WD-40 is a poor lubricant and virtually useless as a penetrating oil. Gets gummy and attracts dirt. Works better as a cleanser. Silicone is a much better lubricant.
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Old 09-30-2022, 08:06 PM   #6
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Hi

For any of this, you have two basic choices: You can use a silicone based lube or a petroleum based one. The key is not to mix the two. Ideally you would pick one brand / type and just use that. Switching from this to that can create bubble gum where the lube should be. As mentioned above WD-40 is not a lube.

So the basic choices:

1) Use something like a white lithium grease spray

--- or ---

2) Pick a silicone lube spray and use that.

Depending on what you read and where you go various folks recommend one over the other. The Zip Dee docs ( which are not easy to find ....) would be one place to look when making a choice. Last time I headed down this rabbit hole, they seemed to like the lithium grease.

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Here's the video from Zip Dee about lubricating the awning. This is the video currently on their website.

They are still recommending silicone spray.

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Never realized you could completely remove one of the awning bars for lubricating. I was always worried about how far it could be extended for cleaning. Also, I've been missing some of the other lubricating points. Thanks for sharing the ZipDee vide.
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Never realized you could completely remove one of the awning bars for lubricating. I was always worried about how far it could be extended for cleaning. Also, I've been missing some of the other lubricating points. Thanks for sharing the ZipDee vide.
Just be careful when you pull out the bottom portion of the arm to have a good grip on the upper portion. Otherwise it will slam against the trailer and leave a mark. Ask me how I know.
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Here's the video from Zip Dee about lubricating the awning. This is the video currently on their website.

They are still recommending silicone spray.
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That's actually an Airstream video about the awnings. There is another one out there actually done by Zip Dee on the power awnings. In that one they use white lithium grease spray for part of the process.

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That's actually an Airstream video about the awnings. There is another one out there actually done by Zip Dee on the power awnings. In that one they use white lithium grease spray for part of the process.

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I found the video on the Zip Dee website, and the video is on the Zip Dee YouTube channel. Perhaps Airstream is also using it as an instructional video but I'm not seeing where this is an Airstream video.

Where did you find another Zip Dee video on the subject in connection with a manual awning? I found it mentioned in their video for the Relax awning, but this thread is discussing a traditional manual awning. In the Relax video, they use silicone spray on the rafter arms, just like on the manual awning. It looks like they're using the lithium on the inside of the automated portion only, which doesn't apply here.

Regardless, it seems that there is conflicting information here: silicone vs. white lithium.

My vote (for what it's worth) is the silicone, if for no other reason than the white lithium grease is going to make a mess if you inadvertently touch it with your hands or your clothing.
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Never use liquid lube,it attracts dirt and dust.

Use a dry lube,just like the 60's graphit lube for antenna and speedometer cable
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I found the video on the Zip Dee website, and the video is on the Zip Dee YouTube channel. Perhaps Airstream is also using it as an instructional video but I'm not seeing where this is an Airstream video.

Where did you find another Zip Dee video on the subject in connection with a manual awning? I found it mentioned in their video for the Relax awning, but this thread is discussing a traditional manual awning. In the Relax video, they use silicone spray on the rafter arms, just like on the manual awning. It looks like they're using the lithium on the inside of the automated portion only, which doesn't apply here.

Regardless, it seems that there is conflicting information here: silicone vs. white lithium.

My vote (for what it's worth) is the silicone, if for no other reason than the white lithium grease is going to make a mess if you inadvertently touch it with your hands or your clothing.
If you watch the video at the end it says "Special Thanks To Airstream For The Use Of This Video". Not sure why they started every word with a capitol letter.
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Never realized you could completely remove one of the awning bars for lubricating. I was always worried about how far it could be extended for cleaning. Also, I've been missing some of the other lubricating points. Thanks for sharing the ZipDee vide.
Wait. That arm is under tremendous spring tension and I've got the scars to prove it.
There is a way, but never let go of the arm and have a helper.
Here's how I did it.
1. Extend the awning.
2. Place a stepladder to support the roller near where you're working.
3. You'll discover you can't extend the arm enough to pull it out...yet.
4. Remove the 7/16 cap screw and bolt from the LOWER HINGE. (where it attaches to the Airstream. May take some wiggling.)
5. Now slide the upper arm out while holding it firmly. (spring tension will be greater since the awning is extended, so never let go!!!)
6. Wipe with Silicone and re-assemble.
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Wait. That arm is under tremendous spring tension and I've got the scars to prove it.
There is a way, but never let go of the arm and have a helper.
Here's how I did it.
1. Extend the awning.
2. Place a stepladder to support the roller near where you're working.
3. You'll discover you can't extend the arm enough to pull it out...yet.
4. Remove the 7/16 cap screw and bolt from the LOWER HINGE. (where it attaches to the Airstream. May take some wiggling.)
5. Now slide the upper arm out while holding it firmly. (spring tension will be greater since the awning is extended, so never let go!!!)
6. Wipe with Silicone and re-assemble.
To be clear, I was not talking about taking apart the main support arms for the awning. As Mollysdad says, they are under extreme tension.

What I was talking about, and what's talked about in the video, is taking apart the two halves of the rafters - the arms that go out along the edge of the awning fabric and keep the awning from rolling back up. These are the arms that the OP was talking about having to click into place to lock the awning open. These are the arms that have the ratchet notches in them to provide multiple locking points.
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If you watch the video at the end it says "Special Thanks To Airstream For The Use Of This Video". Not sure why they started every word with a capitol letter.
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Yup, right there at the end.

The other clue might be that the demo is being done on an Airstream ....

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I guess the way I look at it is this...

Zip Dee obviously approves of the content of the video, as it's on their site in the how-to video section.

Airstream obviously approves of the content, as it's their video.

So I'll stick with the recommendation to use silicone as mentioned in the video. Others are welcome to go with their lubricant of choice.
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