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01-26-2018, 06:59 PM
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New Member
2018 27' Flying Cloud
Atlanta
, Georgia
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 3
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Manual vs automatic awning
We are purchasing a new globetrotter and can’t decide whether or not to go for the power awning. Would love to hear pros and cons of each option.
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01-26-2018, 07:10 PM
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Site Team
2017 30' International
Broomfield
, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,555
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Manual vs automatic awning
I’ve had both (currently have automatic)
Manual:
Pro - simple, always works, nothing to go wrong. Also provides a steeper pitch front-to-back for shedding rain to one end of the trailer or the other.
Cons - manual intervention to deploy
Automatic:
Pros - press a button. Done. Sweet. Kids and the like can operate.
Cons - quirky - sometimes doesn’t quite behave and a reset is required.
Many people who invested in the new automatic awnings absolutely hate them because they can have gremlins.
Personally, I really like mine and I’m happy. I think the newer units have most of the bugs worked out (mine is a 2017).
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01-26-2018, 08:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 25' Tradewind
Shasta Lake
, California
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,040
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K.I.S.S. Manual
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01-26-2018, 10:16 PM
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 8,210
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Electric awning is fine until it breaks after your warranty expires. Very expensive to fix. Don’t ask how I know this. [emoji15]
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01-26-2018, 10:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' FB International
2007 20' Safari SE
2005 19' Safari
Qualicum Beach
, British Columbia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,096
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Manual.
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01-26-2018, 11:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 25' Globetrotter
Santa Rosa
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,845
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Our '2018 Classic has the automatic awning as standard and it works fine (so far). But honestly, there was nothing wrong with the manual awning on our Flying Cloud and if I had been given the choice to save some money on the Classic by going manual, I probably would have gone that way.
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2020 25' Globetrotter Twin | 2024 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali Ult. 4x4 Duramax
400Ah Battle Born lithium battery string | 580W solar (400W roof 180W portable)
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01-27-2018, 05:26 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 30' International
Ellicott City
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 37
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We had the spring in our manual awning break while camping 800 miles from home. The good news with the manual awning is you can roll it up by hand. I don't know if you can do that with the power awning (if it breaks).
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2014 International Serenity 30'
Hensley Arrow hitch
Tow Vehicle: 2001 Ford Excursion 7.3L Diesel
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01-27-2018, 06:23 AM
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Rivet Master
2023 23' International
Macon
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 704
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wulfraat
I think the newer units have most of the bugs worked out (mine is a 2017).
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I don't believe that is true based on the many discussions from recent owners on this forum and other RV forums that I have read. I will never have another power awning after my experience with one.
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01-27-2018, 06:29 AM
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Site Team
2009 25' FB International
2018 27' Globetrotter
Tavares
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,720
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeinca
Our '2018 Classic has the automatic awning as standard and it works fine (so far). But honestly, there was nothing wrong with the manual awning on our Flying Cloud and if I had been given the choice to save some money on the Classic by going manual, I probably would have gone that way.
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The power awning is a $3799 option on the models where it is not standard. I choose not to get a power awning, although the lure of the push buttons is difficult to overcome!
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01-27-2018, 07:04 AM
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Rivet Master
2023 23' International
Macon
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 704
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One of my support arms on one side stopped extending. I called Zip Dee to see if parts were available before I took it apart. I was told by their service dept. that no parts were available. My only option was to purchase a whole, new arm at about $1500. I asked if I could ship the entire assembly to them to see what they could do with it. They agreed and fortunately, all that was wrong was an internal bolt had come loose that connected the motor to the arm extension rod.
My Airstream was down for 3 weeks during this ordeal. If they had come back to me that I needed to replace the whole arm, I was prepared to rip the power awning off and replace it with a manual. I will never own another power awning.
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01-27-2018, 07:31 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,078
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Go with the manual....and as much “manual” as you can opt for.
Having an older Interstate, there is no electronically moved anything...awning, step, bed, sewer discharge, etc....and that’s how we like it.
A bit more physical labor, but that’s good for us, and soooooo much less to go wrong.
Maggie
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01-27-2018, 07:51 AM
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Retired.
Currently Looking...
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, At Large
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 21,276
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I have always preferred manual operation of nearly everything. If it's not there, it can't break. That applies to power windows, power door locks--and power awnings.
Also, just FYI, even if you get the power main awning, all the other awnings on the trailer are still manual.
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01-27-2018, 09:44 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1974 27' Overlander
2015 28' International
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 32
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My automatic awning froze in an awkward position in Escanaba at the International Rally. A Zip Dee rep and Airstream rep could not fix it and removed it, and sent it to Jackson Center for repairs. When I got to JC, I was told it couldn’t be repaired and they ordered a new one. Because the damage was caused by a puff of wind, it became a $6,000 insurance claim instead of warranty work. I replaced it with another automatic, but I’m not sure if manual would have been better. If this had happened with no reps available, I would have been in big trouble.
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01-27-2018, 09:53 AM
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1987 Avion 34W owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Good Ol'
, USA
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,090
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It's just me, but I always opt for "manual" if there is an option.
If I had some physical limitations, that might push me towards "automatic".
(Probably why I like our 1981 Ford Bronco so much... NO-tech, and the only thing "automatic" is the transmission!"
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1995 Ford F250 7.3L PowerStroke
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01-27-2018, 09:53 AM
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Rivet Master
1976 31' Sovereign
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Razorhog
My automatic awning froze in an awkward position in Escanaba at the International Rally. A Zip Dee rep and Airstream rep could not fix it and removed it, and sent it to Jackson Center for repairs. When I got to JC, I was told it couldn’t be repaired and they ordered a new one. Because the damage was caused by a puff of wind, it became a $6,000 insurance claim instead of warranty work. I replaced it with another automatic, but I’m not sure if manual would have been better. If this had happened with no reps available, I would have been in big trouble.
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All the more reason to have manual instead of power awning. Also manual awnings all around on my 31 AS installed at ZD factory lots less total cash for all.
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01-27-2018, 09:53 AM
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SipStreamer
2010 20' Flying Cloud
Lakeside
, Montana
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 124
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wulfraat
Automatic:
Pros - press a button. Done. Sweet. Kids and the like can operate.
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Cons - Kids and the like can operate.
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01-27-2018, 10:05 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 33' Classic
Newport
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 239
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Automatic or manual
This is sort of like Power windows or manual windows in a car.
An Airstream or a tent
Old vs new
I have had both my 2018 Classic 33 has a power awning and I would never go back.
If you go thru life second guessing progress we all would never leave home.
If there wasn’t a market driven by customers wanting a product I would be camping in my 15 foot Serra Scotty.
Earl
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01-27-2018, 10:47 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 28' Pendleton
terre haute
, Indiana
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 67
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I had the manual on my first AS. Loved it. Second one came with the automatic. Knew it would be problems and it has had glitches. Currently working. It is convenient but not worth the trouble. Don’t know what I would do if it stopped working. Well. I do know. It stopped working. Drove miles and mikes to a ZipDee dealer. The service manager came out and it worked perfectly. Oh, just remembered. Both arms and circuit board replaced under warranty at JC within the first few months. I’d go manual.
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01-27-2018, 12:52 PM
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Toaster Life
2010 23' International
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 246
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I would say it depends on your proposed camping style.
If you like to camp in (fairly) remote spots like we do the less automatic stuff the better. Electronics are great until they stop working at the most remote spot at the least opportune time.
We do like the motorized lift on the front hitch, but a switch went out on us on a trip around the Gaspe in Eastern Canada, so we had to winch it up and down manually for 3 weeks. That would not have been such an issue if you did not have to remove the gas tank cover every time to do so....and then be careful to avoid hitting your knuckles on the gas tank every revolution...
Also we can never use the furnace for heat as it is not feasible to run the furnace on batteries...
Airstream should design options for people who like to camp at full hookup spots near 'civilization", and also for those of us who prefer National Parks and such where reliability trumps push button convenience.
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01-27-2018, 01:05 PM
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Stay Calm and Stream On
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Palm Springs
, California
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 313
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Occam's razor appeals to simplicity.
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