Free 7 Day Trial RV GPS App RV Trip Planner Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Free 7 Day Trial ×
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-21-2007, 12:13 PM   #1
Rivet Master
 
StingrayL82's Avatar
 
San Angelo , Texas
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,254
Images: 37
Main Awning Question

The other night we got 9 inches of rain, and I woke up to a miniature pond in the awning (I did have one side of the awning tipped down for drainage, but to no avail). I have one helluva time retracting the awning now, because the weight of the water bent the main roller. Any suggestions on getting the roller straight again? Thanks in advance for the replies.

Frederic
__________________
Frederic
1971 Sovereign International - SOLD

2004 F-350 King Ranch

AIR # 8239
EX-WBCCI # 8371
StingrayL82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2007, 12:53 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
richinny's Avatar
 
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY , / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
there IS a procedure for straightening the roller if it has a slight bend. try the zip dee site or search here. i am 1500 miles from my manuals.
__________________
Ricky
2012 F150 Super Crew 5-1/2' bed Ecoboost 4x4 3.73 elec. lock diff. Propride hitch
give life. kidney & pancreas transplant 9/9/06
Ingrid-my unofficial '"World's Oldest Streamer" 1909-2008 R.I.P.
richinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2007, 01:09 PM   #3
_
 
. , .
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
you will need 2 friends and at least one should be bald...

hi frederic...

basically the awing is rolled up until the bend is on the high side...

then while 2 strong folks support the roller ends, another person grabs or hangs from the high spot...

a graphic of this is included in the newer manuals and the details are spelled out...

at the z/d web site.

Awnings By ZipDee

please take pictures and post them when you do the deed.

these will be fun AND useful to view...

cheers
2air'
__________________
all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.

we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
2airishuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2007, 01:30 PM   #4
Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
 
Minnie's Mate's Avatar
 
2006 30' Safari
Orlando , Florida
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,693
Images: 7
I have bent two support arms within the last year from forgetting to lower one arm or to retract the awning altogether. I now keep a spare under the sofa.

I didn't know you could straighten the roller once it was bent. In process photos would be appreciated.
__________________
2006 30' Safari - "Changes in Latitudes"
2008 F-250 Lariat Power Stroke Diesel Crew Cab SWB
Family of Disney Fanatics
WBCCI# 4821
https://streaminacrossamerica.com/
Minnie's Mate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2007, 02:10 PM   #5
Rivet Master
 
StingrayL82's Avatar
 
San Angelo , Texas
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,254
Images: 37
2air,

For a second, I got the "hey, put your tongue on this frozen metal pole" vision, but I followed the link to Zip Dee and saw you weren't goofing. My neighbors are going to help me this evening. I'll take before and after pics. Thanks.

Frederic
__________________
Frederic
1971 Sovereign International - SOLD

2004 F-350 King Ranch

AIR # 8239
EX-WBCCI # 8371
StingrayL82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2007, 02:14 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
richinny's Avatar
 
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY , / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2airishuman
hi frederic...

basically the awing is rolled up until the bend is on the high side...

then while 2 strong folks support the roller ends, another person grabs or hangs from the high spot...

a graphic of this is included in the newer manuals and the details are spelled out...

at the z/d web site.

Awnings By ZipDee

please take pictures and post them when you do the deed.

these will be fun AND useful to view...

cheers
2air'
you can also use two "a" frame ladders. you should have someone watch from a distance to avoid over-bending.
__________________
Ricky
2012 F150 Super Crew 5-1/2' bed Ecoboost 4x4 3.73 elec. lock diff. Propride hitch
give life. kidney & pancreas transplant 9/9/06
Ingrid-my unofficial '"World's Oldest Streamer" 1909-2008 R.I.P.
richinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2007, 03:13 PM   #7
3 Rivet Member
 
gparker's Avatar
 
1970 31' Sovereign
Denham Springs , Louisiana
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 120
I had a bow in my boom that I tried and tried ti straighten using the zip dee method, but it was only after I took the boom off, placed the ends on sawhorses, and bounced on top of the boom thay I got it straight. Hanging like an ape just didn't do the trick.
__________________
Greg, Ashley, Olivia, and Jane Ashley
AIR # 13681
gparker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2007, 04:38 PM   #8
Rivet Master
 
Wayne&Sam's Avatar
 
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville , New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 3,894
Images: 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by gparker
Hanging like an ape just didn't do the trick.
You need a bigger ape.
Wayne&Sam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2007, 01:41 PM   #9
Rivet Master
 
StingrayL82's Avatar
 
San Angelo , Texas
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,254
Images: 37
Well, it happened again last night.....30% chance of rain in Texas means 100% apparently. Middle of the night lightning and thunderstorm. I wasn't getting up for anything. I woke up to the awning bent again. Seeing how I forgot to take pictures last time, I took them this time. Here are the results. You can see the sag in the awning in the first picture and how it's more taut in the second.

Frederic
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Bent Roller.jpg
Views:	102
Size:	190.1 KB
ID:	44252   Click image for larger version

Name:	Straightened Roller.jpg
Views:	95
Size:	189.1 KB
ID:	44253  

__________________
Frederic
1971 Sovereign International - SOLD

2004 F-350 King Ranch

AIR # 8239
EX-WBCCI # 8371
StingrayL82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2007, 02:48 PM   #10
Rivet Master
 
Silverhobby's Avatar
 
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Greeeneville , Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,301
Send a message via Yahoo to Silverhobby
Simple Procedure

As simple as it is to deploy and retract the awning, storing it before leaving or bedtime is the only thing to do. When you are not under it, what purpose is it serving for you? Sorry for the "bends." Hope it is easy to repair.
__________________
Kevin with Baity the Lab/Pointer
//------AIR # 7303------\\
WBCCI 17109
visit my restoration blog at:
Silverhobby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2007, 03:49 PM   #11
Moderator
 
jcanavera's Avatar

 
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton , Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,768
Images: 143
Send a message via AIM to jcanavera Send a message via Skype™ to jcanavera
You might reconsider the angle that you lower that awning arm by. Just making one side lower by one stop on the arm is really not adequate when you get a good storm. It will pool faster than it can run off.

Jack
__________________
Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500,'14 Honda CTX 700
jcanavera is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2007, 08:00 AM   #12
Rivet Master
 
StingrayL82's Avatar
 
San Angelo , Texas
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,254
Images: 37
Jack, I dropped the one side down another two notches, and it worked perfectly. I thought that dropping it one notch would be okay, but this Texas rain comes down quick.

Silverhobby, It's only me living here for right now, and retracting the awning every night is a pain in the kiester. The repair was extremely easy and, with Jack's suggestion, I shouldn't have any more problems. The only time I plan to retract the awning is when there's a lot of wind.

Frederic
__________________
Frederic
1971 Sovereign International - SOLD

2004 F-350 King Ranch

AIR # 8239
EX-WBCCI # 8371
StingrayL82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2007, 08:24 AM   #13
Rivet Master
 
Wabbiteer's Avatar
 
1973 27' Overlander
1972 29' Ambassador
Itasca , Minnesota
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,044
Images: 2
Blog Entries: 2
With my AS in a state of permanent overhaul I extended the zipdee awning for weeks at a time this summer certain I would not be there to retract it when the rains finally hit. What I did do was lower the tongue jack a couple of inches from level - it worked like a charm, the weight built up enough to lower the downhill edge and automatically dump 6 or 8 gallons at a time as the fabric shifted with the weight build up.

I went out after dark in the rain to attend to it, negotiating the maze to get under the awning, and had it relieve itself as I ducked under the downhill support arm - had I dawdled half a second more I would've been drenched.

I know its not the wisest plan but it sure worked well in this instance... The awning is well protected by buildings, vehicles and another trailer so straightline winds were not an issue.
__________________
The days are short and the night is long and the stars go tumbling by.. . ~Airstream~
Wabbiteer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2007, 08:26 AM   #14
More than one rivet loose
 
thecatsandi's Avatar

 
Currently Looking...
Los Alamos , New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,756
Have you considered retracting the awning at night?
__________________
Michelle TAC MT-0
Sarah, Snowball

Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud

thecatsandi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2007, 08:28 AM   #15
Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
 
Inland RV Center, In's Avatar
 
Corona , California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by StingrayL82
Jack, I dropped the one side down another two notches, and it worked perfectly. I thought that dropping it one notch would be okay, but this Texas rain comes down quick.

Silverhobby, It's only me living here for right now, and retracting the awning every night is a pain in the kiester. The repair was extremely easy and, with Jack's suggestion, I shouldn't have any more problems. The only time I plan to retract the awning is when there's a lot of wind.

Frederic
Zip Dee has "center supports" that help the awnings strength, especially during a rain storm.

A few people use two of them.

Works great even during a huge down pour.

Andy
__________________
Andy Rogozinski
Inland RV Center
Corona, CA
Inland RV Center, In is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2007, 11:17 AM   #16
Rivet Master
 
Ray Eklund's Avatar
 
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Fort Saunders , Wyoming
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,172
Awning rain/wind adjustments

My new 2006 Safari Zip Dee awning needed two people to retract one side. I was tired of appearing to be the 90 pound weakling, so I figured out how to remove the "retractable rod" using the Zip Dee manual in the AS new owners pack. Obviously, while on the dealer's parking lot or trailer show, this bar was bent. So here is my temporary fix while in the Red Desert of Wyoming.

I eye balled the wave (like you check lumber for warps) in the rod and took my 3 pound sledge (for rock hounding) and my 3 foot section of 2x12 that I keep for "fun projects" and began to lightly forge the aluminum rod back to straight (another term for beating the hell out of it). The best I could. On a FLAT surface you can see any irregular waves in the normal straight rod. It now could be adjusted by one person, but I called Zip Dee upon my return and explained my situation. Salesperson JJM said I should not have that kind of problem with a new trailer and in 2006 sent me a "goodwill part". Works perfect now. So you now can temporarily straighten the "main arm bar" part #71300R or L. I should have asked the salesman at the AS dealership why he was having a hard time operating the awning. We newbies learn a lot on those break in trips.

Another spare part to carry is the claw section that latches onto the awning when extended. The original was cracked on the same side of the bent main arm assembly. I keep the new one handy in the event the cracked one finally gives up. With a spare part in tow, it will probably out last me...
Ray Eklund is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2007, 12:18 PM   #17
Rivet Master
 
StingrayL82's Avatar
 
San Angelo , Texas
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,254
Images: 37
I considered it, but what it comes down to is that I am LAZY!!!! LOL!!! It's a real pain in the neck to retract, extend, retract, extend.....I might as well not have the doggone thing. Using Jack's suggestion, I don't think I'll have any more problems. If the wind kicks up bad, I'll retract it.

Frederic
__________________
Frederic
1971 Sovereign International - SOLD

2004 F-350 King Ranch

AIR # 8239
EX-WBCCI # 8371
StingrayL82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2007, 12:50 PM   #18
Retired Moderator
 
john hd's Avatar
 
1992 29' Excella
madison , Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 4,644
Images: 40
my buddies excella from the 70's has a couple of large brass grommets installed in the center about a foot up from the roller.

they act as drains in case the rain tries to " bathtub " the awning.

i have seen it in action and does work.

i keep mine one notch lower on the back end with good results even in heavy downpours.

john
__________________
you call them ferrets, i call them weasels.
john hd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2007, 01:03 PM   #19
Rivet Master
 
StingrayL82's Avatar
 
San Angelo , Texas
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,254
Images: 37
John, that is a damn good idea! Of course, I wonder if the strength of the awning is affected. About four months ago, I saw a derelict Airstream that had an optional support bar in the middle, which I think is a good idea, but not all of the parts were there, so it was pretty useless to me. I'll call Zip Dee tomorrow and ask the experts their opinions on these questions.

Frederic
__________________
Frederic
1971 Sovereign International - SOLD

2004 F-350 King Ranch

AIR # 8239
EX-WBCCI # 8371
StingrayL82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2007, 02:21 PM   #20
Retired Moderator
 
john hd's Avatar
 
1992 29' Excella
madison , Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 4,644
Images: 40
frederic

as far a strength goes his awning is 35 years old and still in excellent shape!

calling zip dee is a good idea.

john
__________________
you call them ferrets, i call them weasels.
john hd is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Zip-Dee Awning Repairs ViewRVs Awnings 3 08-31-2006 06:28 PM
Attaching Awning Brackets Mike Rhodes Awnings 7 10-30-2002 07:35 PM
awning repair/maintence ? daydreamer36535 Awnings 0 09-02-2002 02:31 PM
awning bracket manley Awnings 2 08-22-2002 06:16 PM
Awning Repair cesurman Awnings 0 08-16-2002 11:57 AM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.