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10-12-2010, 08:01 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Livingston
, Full time traveler
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Lubricating Zip-Dee?
On my newly acquired '25 2006 Safari, the awning takes two men (literally) to get the arms up. Is the problem that it has probably been unused for some time?
Suggestions?
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10-12-2010, 08:23 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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Yes, the lack of use will cause the arms to stick because corrosion sets up inside where one piece slides into another.
Spray silicone seems to be the best lubricant, and if you don't have any, try WD-40....it's mostly silicone.
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Steve
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10-12-2010, 08:33 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Between Here
, And There
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 379
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Zip Dee
HCR,
There are a series of videos on youtube on how to care for your zip dee awning. I believe it is the president of the company that does the videos so the info should be reliable. Here is a link to the one on lubricating the awning. Enjoy!
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10-12-2010, 08:47 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Um, I dont think there is any silicone in it Steve.
WD-40's formula is a trade secret. The product is not patented in order to avoid completely disclosing its ingredients. [2] WD-40's main ingredients, according to U.S. Material Safety Data Sheet information, are: The German version of the mandatory EU safety sheet lists the following safety-relevant ingredients:
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10-12-2010, 08:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 22' Safari
Gresham
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 621
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A big thank you for this info. We also have had trouble getting our awning up. Looking forward to trying this remedy. Susan
PS what silicone do you use???
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10-12-2010, 08:59 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Livingston
, Full time traveler
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 212
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A video? Wow, this forum is fantastic! Thanks much.
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10-12-2010, 11:31 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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I wouldn't use ANY WET lubricant on the Zip-Dee arms. I use a product called DuPont Teflon Dry Lube. It sprays on and dries quickly, leaving a very slippery dry film on the metal. Will NOT attract dirt like a wet lube (silicone) that will jam up the slide mechanism. Available at most Lowes.
And WD-40 is NOT a lubricant! It was formulated to displace water on electronic circuit boards (WD stands for water displacement, formula #40. Will penetrate and free rusted fasteners to some extent, but there are far better products for that purpose also. I don't even carry it on my service van, as it does nothing well except it's designed use....TO DISPLACE WATER ON CIRCUITS!
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10-13-2010, 05:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lewster
And WD-40 is NOT a lubricant! It was formulated to displace water on electronic circuit boards (WD stands for water displacement, formula #40. Will penetrate and free rusted fasteners to some extent, but there are far better products for that purpose also. I don't even carry it on my service van, as it does nothing well except it's designed use....TO DISPLACE WATER ON CIRCUITS!
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Everyone, please do what you want, but I'm telling you I've used WD-40 on the sliding arms and it works great.
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Steve
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10-13-2010, 05:25 AM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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I could never get the cetnre support to snap tightly in place before I gave all the arms on ours a good shot with silicon spray lube (generic, from Canadian Tire),
It also helped make the entire opening and closing easier.
Recommended.
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10-13-2010, 05:46 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 16' Safari
Destrehan
, Louisiana
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 395
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You need to check the arms to be sure everything is straight. Even a slight bend will cause the arms to stick. Check it out.
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10-13-2010, 06:30 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
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If you don't have a pair or Zipdee handles on the arms, they really make a big difference.
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10-13-2010, 09:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Oracle
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,174
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumatic
If you don't have a pair or Zipdee handles on the arms, they really make a big difference.
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????? Gotta picture?
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10-13-2010, 10:40 AM
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Rivet Master
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY
, / Miami FL
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10-13-2010, 05:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahab
????? Gotta picture?
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Mo betta. See for yourself @ Punkin Chunkin
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11-03-2010, 07:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Oak View
, California
Join Date: May 2008
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OK, I decided to play with my ZipDee awning today. Read the directions several times, haven't done this in awhile, got someone to help me because there was no way I could hold the awning out while getting the arms situated. Used silicone spray on the arms and the roller. I still have a problem. I can pull the awning way down to get maximum shade, but it won't stay there. If I touch it just a bit, it goes up to a high position. Am I supposed to tie the main strap down? What am I doing wrong?
Carol
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11-03-2010, 07:45 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,617
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cclarkego
OK, I decided to play with my ZipDee awning today. Read the directions several times, haven't done this in awhile, got someone to help me because there was no way I could hold the awning out while getting the arms situated. Used silicone spray on the arms and the roller. I still have a problem. I can pull the awning way down to get maximum shade, but it won't stay there. If I touch it just a bit, it goes up to a high position. Am I supposed to tie the main strap down? What am I doing wrong?
Carol
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I suspect that you are not installing the rafter arms correctly. The ends go over the shaft at the ends of the roll and then they are extended until they lock in place. Take a look at the instructions from ZipDee:
Awnings By ZipDee
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11-03-2010, 07:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Oak View
, California
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,063
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I did put the rafter arms over the end of the roll, but I think I missed hearing any click that locked it into place. I'll try it again tomorrow. Thanks!
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11-03-2010, 08:02 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
1984 31' Airstream310
Ajo
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2007
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The ratchet studs that lock the awning could have sheared. They are available (in a vastly improved version) from Zip Dee. Go to the web site and look at "Contour Hardware". It will show you the part (illustration # 10).
Oops, is it a brand new awning? My bad if it is.
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11-03-2010, 08:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Oak View
, California
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,063
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I don't know if I grasped the lower arm and pushed FIRMLY down in the direction of the arrow. I could barely hang on to the damn thing, it just wanted to return to the mother ship.....
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11-04-2010, 12:41 PM
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Go online to the ZipDee site and see if the diagrams make any sense to you. Then call the nice folks at ZipDee and describe your problem. I suspect they can tell you what's going on and what to do next.
Pat
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