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Old 06-15-2007, 12:12 PM   #1
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I completely lost it today

Well I was so proud of myself I extended the awning all the way, cleaned up the arms and got some silicone on the length of them, and in the channel. We have an ongoing problem of the inside support arm moving out upon roll-up and catching the outer arm and hanging up so I had this weenie of an idea. I used the awning tool to pull the inner arm towards me while releasing the awning. Voila, I was smug...for about a second or two when I looked up and saw I lost the loop. Brad's not home yet, so I will be hitting him with the honey do please when he gets in, and look what I've done this time . If we get up there on each side and pull down and out on the arms will it unroll? I am hoping so. Also if anyone has any ideas about those arms hanging up we are ready to start trying a fix ourselves, as it has been looked at by JC and Zip Dee and they found no problem. However I can see those arms are not sitting plumb when retracted as the other side does. It definitely bends in at the point where the inner bar and the outer sleeve meet. I think some bracket to the Airstream must be off.
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:26 PM   #2
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Here's my pictures before I cleaned them all up and made them all slithery.
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You should have no problem getting the awning rolled out with out the loop. I would suggest that you grab the arm at the top with one hand and roll the roller with the other. The loop should appear in no time.

As far as the awning not being straight. It should be easy to see if the arms are straight and the mounts should be mounted on a rib line. When it is rolled up do the heads line up with the clamps or do you have to push it one side? If you do it may not be centered in the awning rail correctly. You should have a couple of screws that lock it into the rail. Remove them to fine tune the centering. The bad news is: if you move it too far the travel lock may not line up correctly.
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Old 06-15-2007, 01:07 PM   #4
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Thanks Richard. Ok we have the tab back...that's good. Now we will scope it out as you instructed. I am thinking about the awning hook mention...they just moved the hook on the other side because it did not line up at all. Everything is very mobile on that patio awning side probably because of the good smack it takes each time hanging up or perhaps it hangs up because it is so loose. We'll give adjustments a try. Thanks.
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:06 PM   #5
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I've lost the loop too. When I read this, brought back memories!
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Old 06-15-2007, 05:13 PM   #6
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I know how silly is that. Usually I hold on fine but I was being "creative" Putting 303 on the window gaskets and washing the windows. Worked nicely on the Fantastic Vents which were sticking closed. It's HOT out in the sun, sure wish I had an enclosure but I am happy to have it near. I know I read somewhere, was it Minnies Mate changed out the screws in the window wells, yikes they are sharp and I am stopping at getting the bugs out for now but it would be nice to get all the overspray adhesive off some cooler day. Anyone else feel like a new AS is a DIY kit?
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Old 06-15-2007, 05:16 PM   #7
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The owner's manual suggests that you roll the tab at an angle so that it doesn't make a hump in the center of the roll when you close the big awning.
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Old 06-15-2007, 06:02 PM   #8
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Next time I shall try angling. I remember Zip Dee telling me that! Although the other AS awnings posed no problem to me and I am rather a creature of habit with routine chores. It's rolled up now and I held onto the tab and tied a string to the arm and pulled it towards me this time when I let the awning go up. Inglorious but just this woman's way to bide time before the men can fix it.
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Old 06-15-2007, 08:19 PM   #9
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arm hanging up

I have the same problem with the front arm on my Safari. To keep it clear I put a thin strap from my raft around the part that hangs up and it makes a nice loop that is long enough to hang on to (and pull away from the other arm) whilst rolling the awning up. The strap is a flat nylon so it clears the arms easily. Photo tomorrow if you'd like.
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Old 06-15-2007, 08:33 PM   #10
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I would LOVE a picture tomorrow, if it isn't too much trouble. Meantime maybe one of the vendors who installs awnings, do you Lew? has the reason our awnings are doing that. Thank you wasafari. Did you have some flat nylon on hand or did you purchase it at a store, something like a webbed bag strap is it?
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hi carol

roll/retract the awning with the loop angling/spiraling north or south on the roll.

tug gently while doing this.

the tension will 'move' the entire unit in the direction you tug...

one direction will make it better and the other worse...

it will be obvious which way is best as the awning arms will line up perfectly!

usually the best direction is toward the door or in your case toward the front end...

don't sweat losing the loop, i'm not sure you weigh enough to slow it down anyway!

i have visions of you being rolled up IN the awning with only your pj toes exposed...

i love lucy style!

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Old 06-16-2007, 09:35 AM   #12
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BINGO! (maybe) I always stand towards the front rolling up the awning. If I recall properly the techs at Zip Dee stood towards the rear and it rolled up for them, perhaps perhaps. At least it is worth a try. Thanks.

Being rolled in the awning! OH NO! With only my PJ toes exposed!
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If that works, go for it.
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Old 06-16-2007, 11:12 AM   #14
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I am definitely going to have the adjustments looked at, typically I let Brad do that so it may not be right away or perhaps I will get to it after the rally. I also have to let it go before 6 inches of fabric, since AS adjusted it the shield will just billow up unrolled and I think it hit the trailer, I dunno exactly but it didn't look good, tried a few times afraid to release it then so pulled it back farther out and let it snap from there. I didn't have these problems with the other Zip Dees and it is nerve racking now to do my awning rather than something I formerly enjoyed.
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Sounds like you might not have enough load on the springs. I set mine up per the instructions and it rolls up perfectly. You can find the instructions at the ZipDee website.
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Thanks for the link. We have replaced bent arms in the past but never tackled tensioning. I imagine there must be diligent care taken with that lest it get away from you right? Not sprung as tightly as a garage door spring though? Never mind 2Air's teasing about rolling up with my toes hanging out, I am worried something will reach out and grab my fingers and arm. I could never be a mechanic. Mechanisms scare me. Grandpa had all his fingers cut off on both hands being the shop super and having a jammed diepress release while he had his hands below and was looking up at it.
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Don't be intimidated. It's only a glorified, over-sized window shade. You should be able to adjust the tension easily following the instructions from ZipDee-just don't let go of it!
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Even if you let go, it will only slap you a few times before you black out.

Just kidding, it is nothing like a garage door spring. Those things scare the crap out of me.

The tension on the arm is not that great. Two people makes it a very easy job.
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Ok I think we can do it. It's the don't let go part, lol. As sure as you say that I am thinking, I'll sneeze, a bug will sting me, I'll have a leg cramp...worse I'll have a hand cramp...PRESSURE.OK I'll take a deep breath and muster all my courage and hold on for dear life with a death grip, I'm not kidding either.

I can do shades. Psyching up now... this is a just a bigger version but not too big like a door. I will probably have an emergency exit plan in mind...just in case... Gonna fly now Adrian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Are there any differences discernable in these two sides to you?

Walbernized half the AS today. First time we did not have it done. Ouch!!! I am a pooped pup! Sealant all over the place, skin so soft to the rescue, filament corrosion erupting in too many places. I'm with the thought that Walbernize is too thin and not much of a coating, however it was easy and did take out some surface imperfections I did not think it could. How do you all clean the hot water heater cover? I definitely want the stainless cover. All I managed to do with a variety of products is to make the aluminum black come to the surface. I am lost on what to do here. As I am on which of the corrosion products to use, ACF 50, Boeshield T-9, or Corrosion X.

7 week? old rims are sprouting corrosion again. HELP!!!!!!!!!! I need to close my eyes again without seeing my investment corrode and rust before my eyes. Next stop = fiberglass!
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