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06-10-2013, 08:32 PM
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New Member
2012 22' FB Sport
Madison
, Wisconsin
Join Date: May 2013
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Broken claw casting on awning
Hello! We have a new-to-us 2012 Sport 22' and are in process of getting ready to travel this summer. I noticed that what I think Zip Dee calls the 'claw casting' from their parts list is fractured.
http://awningsbyzipdee.com/media/19b...08ffffd523.pdf
The awning hasn't been used so my best guess is that it shattered against the storage pin while being moved (just normal towing). I've written to Zip Dee and am waiting to hear back but has anyone else had this break? Guesses as to what happened?
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06-10-2013, 09:00 PM
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Retired.
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They break almost every time the awning is rolled up with the claw set too close to the main rafter arm. It binds and breaks. In order to prevent this from happening, always make sure the claw is set into the narrower part of the pin that holds it.
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06-10-2013, 09:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Georgetown
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 796
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roll_along
has anyone else had this break? Guesses as to what happened?
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Yes, I think I've replaced 4 or 5 of these to-date. Another one of those cheaply manufactured components that you will probably get used to repeatedly replacing. The last time I went ahead and ordered two just so that I would have a spare one on-hand. I've already used that spare.
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06-10-2013, 11:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
San Diego
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,495
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Welcome to the Forums!
Welcome to the AirForums roll_along!
Like Terry said, this often occurs if the claw bar assembly (part #7) is placed on the larger diameter of the section of the step spacer pin (part #3E).
This can happen if one is in a hurry and not focusing on this detail when stowing the awning.
Your photo shows that it is currently in the correct position, but at some point I suspect that the claw bar was placed on the larger diameter section of the step spacer pin causing undue stress and subsequent damage to the claw bar when the trailer was towed.
Below is a close-up photo of this detail with the claw bar correctly placed on the step spacer pin:
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06-11-2013, 02:02 AM
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New Member
2012 22' FB Sport
Madison
, Wisconsin
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 4
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Thank you! I'll be careful about stowing the claw once we get this replaced. Have you all used a screw to replace the rivet that appears to hold the claw to the bar?
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06-11-2013, 04:30 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Rehoboth beach
, Delaware
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 7
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It is not a rivet but a pin that secures the claw. You use a punch and Zip Dee sends great instructions. I always carry a spare.
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06-11-2013, 04:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roll_along
Thank you! I'll be careful about stowing the claw once we get this replaced. Have you all used a screw to replace the rivet that appears to hold the claw to the bar?
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The bar end, not just the claw, get replacd.
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06-11-2013, 06:17 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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We lost that arm while on the road.
Couldn't figure out why until I noticed that the rear arm assembly was not plumb. It was off vertical by about 3 inches to the rear causing the claw to work it's way onto the larger diameter of that pin. Moved the lower mount forward, no problem since.
It became apparent when I noticed that the front support arm followed the rivet line evenly all the way up to the awning.
Added benefit....the awning now rolls up straight and the wheel lock fit's in the slot straight, no more fighting to get it secured.
Bob
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08-09-2013, 06:48 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Puyallup
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 184
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Broke one yesterday, do airstream dealers stock them or should I call zip dee
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08-09-2013, 06:59 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by srpuywa
Broke one yesterday, do airstream dealers stock them or should I call zip dee
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Ours broke while visiting relatives, Zip-Dee had the replacement arm to us in two days...call.
Bob
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08-09-2013, 07:34 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roll_along
Hello! We have a new-to-us 2012 Sport 22' and are in process of getting ready to travel this summer. I noticed that what I think Zip Dee calls the 'claw casting' from their parts list is fractured.
http://awningsbyzipdee.com/media/19b...08ffffd523.pdf
The awning hasn't been used so my best guess is that it shattered against the storage pin while being moved (just normal towing). I've written to Zip Dee and am waiting to hear back but has anyone else had this break? Guesses as to what happened?
Attachment 187957
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This is straying off topic, but I noticed in your photo you have a clearance lights found on 2011/2012 Airstreams that can rub through the clear coat finish and start corrosion where the light frame ends contact the clear coated shell.
Airstream company is aware of this problem, and has been good standing behind it to get it fixed. Give Airstream Customer Service a call.
Here's a thread on this forum that discusses the issue:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142...-31743-99.html
doug
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08-09-2013, 08:35 AM
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,168
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I broke a claw in that fashion also - quick rollup at night with winds coming. Always be sure to place the claw on the small race area.
Call ZipDee. Nice folks to deal with.
Pat
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08-09-2013, 08:58 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
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I always remove the hook from the roller and just let it hang at the side of the trailer before I roll up the awning. It's a few seconds of extra work to pop it off and then lift it back onto the post once the awning is rolled up but I've never broken a claw.
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08-09-2013, 09:36 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Puyallup
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 184
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Ordered 3 about 5 minutes ago --- $14 a piece
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08-09-2013, 12:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Apparently that is a common problem. 2 awning claws were broken before we took delivery of the trailer.
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08-09-2013, 12:42 PM
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,168
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"Added benefit....the awning now rolls up straight and the wheel lock fit's in the slot straight, no more fighting to get it secured."
Bob, do you just tie it when you're traveling? Do you use new straps each time? I use a velcro strap so I can remove it easily.
Pat
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08-09-2013, 01:02 PM
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BicycleStreamers
2016 28' Pendleton
Buxton
, Oregon
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 46
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Quick reply to the question whether the dealer carries spares. The dealer I bought my trailer from in Portland does. I bought one as a spare a few months ago because being a newbie I figured I'd break one at some point!
Good luck and thanks to everyone offering help and suggestions. I've learned many great tips! Keep up the good work!
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08-09-2013, 01:34 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pmclemore
"Added benefit....the awning now rolls up straight and the wheel lock fit's in the slot straight, no more fighting to get it secured."
Bob, do you just tie it when you're traveling? Do you use new straps each time? I use a velcro strap so I can remove it easily.
Pat
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Yep, just while on the road....I love those zippy little buggers.
Also handy for keeping the umbilical attached.
Bob
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08-10-2013, 05:40 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Memphis
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 260
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Try the ones that can be reused.
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08-10-2013, 11:25 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2011
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I have broken two of these claw deals (well my son actually broke one of them). They are really pretty chintzy. Pot metal. Of course they do provide a continual stream of income for Zip Dee.
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