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Old 04-08-2007, 06:51 PM   #1
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Order Walbernize?

Do I have to order Walbernize or can I buy it locally? We have a new AS and need to wash it, protect it and whatever. After searching and reading, I figure that I need to buy Walbernize to protect after I wash with something mild and a soft brush.

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Old 04-08-2007, 07:27 PM   #2
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Hi Pat. Nice rig and you're just up the road from me!!!!

I have an '06 19CCD and did a little experiment using Walbernize and an acrylic polymer based wax/sealant that I normally use. I have to say that after a year of exposure, the polymer side still looks great while the Walbernize is probably worn off.

IIRC, the Walbernize product was developed for use on the plasticized clearcoats of older trailers. Since the new units have a clearcoat applied to each panel by Alcoa, and quality wax or sealant product should work very well.

The polymer product I use is very easy to apply and even easier to remove. I use it every 6 months now.

You might try the search function for more information on this topic, or PM me for product specifics.

Wax is sort of like engine oil.........everyone has their preferences for a huge variety of reasons .
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Old 04-08-2007, 07:39 PM   #3
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Lew aren't there two blends of Walbernize? One pre and one post?

I'd be interested in hearing more about what you use. I'm currently Walbernizing about 2x a year.
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Old 04-08-2007, 07:48 PM   #4
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OK, twist my arm........

At the risk of starting a 'my product is better than your product' thread, I have found a new 'paint sealant' from a company called Griot's Garage. I have used their products for a long time (since 1990) and have always been satisfied with what they sell.

Last summer, they developed their 'Paint Sealant' product for folks that wanted a nice finish on their daily drivers but didn't want the entire production associated with regular waxing.

I tried it on my Sprinter after cleaning the surface with paint cleaning clay and polishing the clear coat with their #4 polish (it needed it!). I then applied the sealant with a random orbital buffer as directed and just wiped it off when it was dry. That was in August. My van still looks like I just polished it after all that time fully exposed to the weather.

I put it on the CCD in October, and it still looks great (on one side, since I Walbernized the other side). I can really see the difference, especially when it's wet. I'll be polishing the entire unit with #4 polish in a week or so and then re-applying the Paint Sealant to the whole rig. It should last the year that they say it will.....................
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hi starflyte

wanna protect that new beauty?

the owners manual indicates ANY quality automotive wax will work...

so use what you already know and like for the car/truck

yes wallywax comes in multiple flavors now..

old formulations for the really old plastic coats,

and a new mix for newer finish.

the only plus to walbernize is that the product is multipurpose...

cleans, dissolve some spots, polishes and waxes.

the negatives are that it is mildly abrasive, doesn't last many washings and is a only so so as a wax.

lews been using his stuff long enough to give it a try,

and i like meguiar's professional line, #20 and 21...

these are easy on/ easy off liquid wax/polymer sealants...

long lasting and a brilliant shine...

the # 21 is easier on/off but not as available....

the # 20 is extremely durable as most 'polysealants' are...

both are great.

a goood wax jobs begins with a good cleaning...

so wash, remove contaminants like tar, or sap...

gotta be really clean for max wax performance and too avoid scratching during application.

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woops on edit i see lou has switched.
yes groit's is good to but expensive and only available on line.
or at the outlet store in oregon?
i tried it, it was fine, but went back to the products i've used for 15 years...

the important thing is wallywax IS NOT needed for the newer alcoa clearcoated panels...
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:47 AM   #6
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Thanks for all of the information! Glad I asked because it looks like Walbernize is NOT the answer.

I will read about Groits and am familiar with Meguiars.


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Old 04-09-2007, 02:41 PM   #7
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All good products. Here's an easy one.

The previous postings are all products from reliable manufacturers and here's another if you're looking for an easy application. Consider NANOWAX by EagleOne. It's a no haze carnauba spray wax that was recommended to me by my "Go To" Airstream dealer in Texas. It smells great and you just spray it onto your clean surface and wipe it off right away. Too easy. Beads water for a year and is so easy. I've applied it twice to my baby and love the ease of it all. You can purchase NANOWAX at most auto parts shops. It comes in a blue spray bottle. Good luck with your decision. HAPPY TRAILS
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Old 04-09-2007, 05:06 PM   #8
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I use Liquid Glass polymer sealant on my Airstreams. It cost 19 bucks a can but one can will do the whole trailer twice. Sunshine hardens the stuff and it kept a great shiny seal on my Motorhome skin. I redo it once every 6- months or so. Hand applied, and goes on easy.
A lot of folks here use it, check out the search for their comments.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:22 AM   #9
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Is there any point to walberizing our 89 if it is already balding on top? We plan to re-clearcoat in a year or two but want to spiff it up for now, I usualy just wash it with automotive wash/wax (one-step) but am thinking a little Wally won't hurt...might even buy us sometime before clearcoating.

Should I do the whole exterior?
Or skip the "bare spots"?

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Old 04-19-2007, 09:38 AM   #10
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There has been a bunch of posts in the past about NOT using either a car wash detergent or wax that contains pertrolium product on newer Airstreams.

I bought the Byam-izer, but in the 2 1/2 years since owning my AS have used it only once and washed it once, due to the lack of water hook up near my current storage. Maybe my new storage place will have some water I can tap into to get the job done...

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Old 04-19-2007, 09:39 AM   #11
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Griot's Garage has really great products. I've been using their stuff since the mid-90's and even spoke with Richard Griot on the phone for about 1/2hr once. I had called to praise their rubber cleaner, but he wasn't in the office. I left a message, figuring he'd be too busy to call back, but he did. That, to me, is Customer Service at its finest, when the owner takes the time to call you.
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:22 AM   #12
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There has been a bunch of posts in the past about NOT using either a car wash detergent or wax that contains pertrolium product on newer Airstreams.

Jonathan
Our 89 would not be in the "newer" category...

But thanx anyway,
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Is there any point to walberizing our 89 if it is already balding on top?
Should I do the whole exterior?
Or skip the "bare spots"? Thanx, Bill
hi billtex

are you game to try it?

the older formulation of walb has more 'plasticizers' in the soup...

these are supposed to replenish the older plasti-coat...

on bare aluminum i'd guess it would pull up some oxidation...

but perhaps only to blacken the metal...

walb isn't a true aluminum compounding polish.

another option for the old plasticoat might be...

a product designed for vinyl or auto plastics....

some of the dash/trim formulas have plasticizers ....

IF you believe vinyl or plastic can be replenished.

lots of brands 2 chose; experiment is a better word..

walb original formula (cleaner/polish/glaze) is/was clearly intended for your finish...

but NOT for the alcoa clearcoat NOW applied...

the newer 'superseal' is intended on clearcoats....
if you like it....

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Old 04-20-2007, 01:21 PM   #14
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hi billtex

are you game to try it?

the older formulation of walb has more 'plasticizers' in the soup...

these are supposed to replenish the older plasti-coat...

on bare aluminum i'd guess it would pull up some oxidation...

but perhaps only to blacken the metal...

walb isn't a true aluminum compounding polish.

another option for the old plasticoat might be...

a product designed for vinyl or auto plastics....

some of the dash/trim formulas have plasticizers ....

IF you believe vinyl or plastic can be replenished.

lots of brands 2 chose; experiment is a better word..

walb original formula (cleaner/polish/glaze) is/was clearly intended for your finish...

but NOT for the alcoa clearcoat NOW applied...

the newer 'superseal' is intended on clearcoats....
if you like it....

cheers
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hi2air, which one for my 89?

Walbernize RV Super Seal Wax

Walbernize RV Super Seal is an original formula containing a combination of cleaning, polishing, and glaxing ingredients. Safe for all types of finishes. RV Super Seal provides easy cleaning and polishing actions while quickly removing traffic film and spots of road oil or tar. Long lasting and detergent resistant, can be used on chrome and glass.

Walbernize Cleaner and Glaze

Walbernize is an original formula containing a combination of cleaning, polishing and glazing ingredients. It provides quick easy cleaning and polishing action. Wabernize glaze finish is long lasting and detergent resistant. It can be used on chrome and glass. Not Recommended for use on clearcoats.
$25.86

I guess purchase thru AS Store is best option?

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You may want to look at walbernize.com. The site lists the products and includes a price list.
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[B]Walbernize RV Super Seal Wax

Walbernize Cleaner and Glaze

I guess purchase thru AS Store is best option?

Thanx, Bill
hi bill

when you place the order just ask! the gals who run the store will know

my basic understanding is that BOTH are ok on '89 plasti-coat.

cleaner/glaze has more 'plasticizer' and was intended for the plasti-coat on pre '99 units like YOURS.

superseal is the newer product; can be applied to them all but was deveolped for the '99 (and on) CLEARCOATs pre-applied by alcoa.

cleaner/glaze is NOT to be used on the '99 and newer CLEARCOAT by alcoa.

cheers
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big disclaimer....
i'm not a fan of walbernize for my unit...
tired half a jug and the results didn't suit me...
owners manual indictates ANY quality auto wax for '99 and newer alcoa applied clearcoats...
so i use auto wax/polysealants.
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I have read this thread with interest as I want to give my 1982/3 310 MH a facelift. She is begining to look very tired and dirty. No end of washing doesnt seem to rid the "blemishes" that I assume are some form of oxidation, it just looks unkempt. I am not sure what the original finish is, but I believe from comments here in these pages it is some form of Plasticoat?

I managed to buy a Cyclo polisher through eBay from the USA, but find now I can't get the pads or info on what ones I need here, so I am in some limber.

Can any one, from experience, point me in the right direction. Many have recommended Walbernize but it is not available in the UK. I would like to buy some, and Cyclo padding to give it a whirl, and the ol' girl a new lease of life untill I can get the few scratches and imperfections sorted and then polish and recoat to that lovely satin ali finish.

It will be worth the extra shipping costs to have her looking good again.
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I have read this thread with interest as I want to give my 1982/3 310 MH a facelift. She is begining to look very tired and dirty. No end of washing doesnt seem to rid the "blemishes" that I assume are some form of oxidation, it just looks unkempt. I am not sure what the original finish is, but I believe from comments here in these pages it is some form of Plasticoat?

I managed to buy a Cyclo polisher through eBay from the USA, but find now I can't get the pads or info on what ones I need here, so I am in some limber.

Can any one, from experience, point me in the right direction. Many have recommended Walbernize but it is not available in the UK. I would like to buy some, and Cyclo padding to give it a whirl, and the ol' girl a new lease of life untill I can get the few scratches and imperfections sorted and then polish and recoat to that lovely satin ali finish.

It will be worth the extra shipping costs to have her looking good again.
Try this link for Cyclo products, they were the best price I found.

Cyclo Orbital Polisher - The Cyclo Dual Head Polisher

For those in the US, I was told that WalMart carrys Walbernize. I don't know that to be true.

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The Walbernizer product is made here in Indianapolis, just down the road from me. I have purchase the product for use on my 2006 AS. I washed one of my stone guards and used the walbernizer on a small area. I'm not to impressed, looked like it streaked and was hard to work with. I have several street rods with expensive custom paint jobs on them and I use "Mother's" products exclusively on them and am thinking about using their carmuba wax on a small area to see what happens. Has anyone tried this?
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Many of us have experienced Walbernize on stainless-steel.
It really streaks and is a PITA.
Try Walbernize on the aluminum and glass and it works pretty well.
Mother's should work well too.
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