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Old 10-23-2003, 07:46 PM   #301
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So much for a secret supply
I wasn't sure if I was going to spray or brush. I think spray will get to more hard to reach areas but then overspray can be a problem.
No hurry, another one of the things on my to do list.

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Old 10-23-2003, 09:05 PM   #302
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Thumbs up Got 5.5 hours in today....

Well got some serious time in for me. But it's slow going with all my FFC. I am about to go through another pound of polish in just a week or so. Must be some kind of record.

I was able to work on the front end cap a little, but the weather did not help. It was 86 degrees in the blistering Sun and that just made the polish start to smear. So I had to give up working on the top and got some work done on the sides.

Looks like I will have to order more polish to complete though. So far I have used almost 2lbs of polish.

Sorry no pics. Worked up until dark and had to get out of there because I was being eaten alive by the mosquetos.

Planned on leaving work early again tomorrow, but may have to rethink that if its too hot.

I am thinking of just completing the compounding for the winter and wax it for now. Then in the spring break out the cyclo. What do you guys think?

67 hours and counting.
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Old 10-23-2003, 09:31 PM   #303
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later is an option

Tim: That was my plan all along. I knew starting out if I spent to much time in any one area there was no way I would have the time to complete the job. I decided to focus on a "whole" trailer polish and wax at less than a perfect shine, that way I could use the trailer and it would look "good". I could then take my time going over the whole thing one panel at a time next spring, probably to most others the shine as is looks great but there are a lot of areas that need to be redone.
When I started I only had three weeks and had other chores to do beside polishing. I don't mind this as a work in progress but I do need to use the A/S for some RR along the way.

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Old 10-24-2003, 12:32 AM   #304
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I am thinking of just completing the compounding for the winter and wax it for now. Then in the spring break out the cyclo. What do you guys think?
Headlines in BOLD PRINT reads:

Local resident plans Spring Breakout~!!
Town Officials have issued a warning to area drivers that, they will be required to wear dark anti-glare eye protections while driving by "Safari Tim's home. Safari Tim has gained national attention as a polishing guru..He also has gained futher ties and, has drawn attention as a local member of a nation wide group who share their experiences on the W3.
LMAO~!~
Take a much deserved rest when you're ready..But, be advised, it'll still be lurking there awaiting you..

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Thanks.. I'm finding that, work schedule is flux/changing on a daily basis.
Actually, the paint was brushed on at first then, later coats were sprayed on..Just use newspaper with light masking tape to hold it in place over the skin of the nearby exposed area..simple..

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btw, Colder wx in the forecast. Light snow fell yesterday, lasting till noon. I'm so happy that we got the Silver Turtle back to Va. Beach.

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Old 10-24-2003, 08:20 AM   #305
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Here's a picture of my efforts so far........I've been using the Nuvite C and G6. I think I agree with Nellie, that I like the C the best for compounding. I'm glad to hear that Safari Tim has used 2 pounds of polish, I was a little worried that I've used a pound and a half and have only done the front and part of the curb side.
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Old 10-24-2003, 08:31 AM   #306
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Thumbs up Just wanted to say~

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Great, you're off to an excellent start~!!

I'm sure you've seen my unit?
If I may say this and, not to discourage you..My total Nuvite use was around a pound total...That's using G6,F7 and C...So far I haven't , as of yet, gotten to the real use of S...
It sounds like, to me, you might be using abit too much..
Only you know for sure tho..
It's important to not over use the polishing compound..About four dabs, half the size of a MM works perfectly~! Keep your polishing area manageable..12x12 inch sq..at the most.
Check this out if you haven't yet..
compound polishing.

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Thumbs up Looking good!

Cool. another polisher in the club. SafariLori... Looks like a great start.

I have gone through a lot of polish to be sure. I need to order my 3rd pound so I can contiune.

However, I have had literaly gone over every inch of the trailer at least 10 times because of severe filfrom corrosion. I actually stopped counting after 10 times and it was the same throughout.

Got another 3.5 hours in today. For a grand total of 70.5

I'll try and post some updated pictures tomorrow night.

Wore out now
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OK you guys, what will you use to wax it with? Do you put it on thick or just a light coat? How do you get if off in the Spring?

I have an all-over semi-shine that I would like to keep until spring when I can work it some more. Nothing like the dazzle you have though.
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Old 10-24-2003, 10:25 PM   #309
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Lightbulb Try this..

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WELCOME~!!
What I've used is a product called "Mothers" phase 3. It's a special wax made from carnaubua..
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Carnauba wax is a resin produced by the wax palm tree Copernicia Cerifera. This tree grows in various parts of South America. However, only the trees in the Northeastern tropical rain forests of Brazil produce the premium quality wax used by MOTHERS®.
The reason I chosed this over all the others is:
It will seal the surface from the elements.
So far, I haven't seen anything to make me regret the use of it.
In fact, just a short time after I had applied it, we had a rain storm. When the unit had dried off..I went around with a soft cloth and, lightly wiped the water marks off..It was an easy job.
This was what I was looking for while I put off my polishing project until next Spring..
I just put it on lightly in a swirl rubbing pattern..let it dry to a haze and, wiped it off using a soft cloth..took abt 12 hours to do my entire unit..Why?, that's just me..I like to rub off any water marks before I apply the wax..etc
To remove it..(If you must) I'd use mineral spirit on a soft cloth.
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I'd even consider the use of an excellent quality cover for long term use..Not cheap but, well worth the investment.

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Got another 3.5 hours in today. For a grand total of 70.5
Ya da MAN~! Good for you..
I can't wait to see your updates``

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Old 10-25-2003, 08:37 PM   #310
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Nothing like the dazzle you have though
Thanks, I agree the guys have really put some serious "efforts" into their polishing project..
Altho,
I'm willing to bet that, you'll outshine all of us once you restart your polishing next Spring..
Question:
Are you working by yourself on this project?
What sorta equipment are you using to compound with?
What condition was your unit's skin overall before you started?
Had it been polished prior?
Good luck to you~
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Old 10-25-2003, 08:49 PM   #311
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However, I have had literaly gone over every inch of the trailer at least 10 times because of severe filfrom corrosion. I actually stopped counting after 10 times and it was the same throughout.
Hey Tim,
Can you give us more information/pictures about this "filfrom corrosion".
Just wondering how deep did this go into the skin?? I thought I had some as well but, whatever it was I had on mine didn't require the intense compounding that you're up against.
I had this thought:
Maybe we could get "garry" to make a run over to that A/S graveyard in MO and, get each of us a small section of the alum. skin to sharpen our polishing skills over the winter month??
But, then...you don't have that problem living in mild CA, as you do..lol
I miss polishing...is this a withdrawal?? lmao

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I am embarrassed (because of all your hard work) to admit I did not do the polishing myself. The guy from whom I bought the trailer had partly started it - and I paid him to finish the rest. He did a pretty good job, the oxydation is gone and it no longer looks piebald. However rain drops are leaving their little tracks all over. It has a satisfactory polish but a few too many obvious swirls - in some places almost a mirror finish but no way good enough to put a sealer on it. So I am planning to wax it for the winter and then work on it in the Spring. I have been told on no account to cover it because covers leave marks on the aluminum. Have I been misinformed?
P.S. Where do you get Mother's
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Hello Rosemary;
No, you were not misinformed about the cover. If you go back thru this post you will see where a cover (talking about a cover that contacts the skin) did a job on the front curved panels on my A/S and I had to do a lot of sanding to clean it up before compounding.
I suggest you wax ASAP since the water spots are one of the hardest things to compound out. Any wax will do 53FC is happy with the Mother's wax and I have used plain ol Turtle wax with good results the important thing is to keep wax on it. You don't have to make a major production out of it. Just wipe it on, wait for it to haze over and wipe off. The wax does not add to the shine and can make it just a little less shiney but protects you from oxidizing.

Looking forward to your pictures.

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Old 10-25-2003, 10:36 PM   #314
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Just about any good auto supply shop, like Pep Boys, Advance Auto, etc. I suppose even Wal Mart..

Thanks Garry, you've made a excellent point about your experience with the use of a cover..

Rosemary,
Plse, don't be embarrassed. It's what we're all here for..To help one another and, to share in this A/S experience..I can't think of a single person on this forum who didn't learn without asking questions. Including myself..For sure~!!
I have to laugh when I say this but, nearly 5 yrs ago when I first bought my A/S..I was totally out of my elements~I was very lucky to have a close friend who had owned several A/S for a mentor~!
I call upon him still today, even tho now he's no longer an A/S owner.
Whenever you're ready to start again to polish your unit, if you have question..ask..


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Old 10-25-2003, 11:51 PM   #315
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Hey Tim,
Can you give us more information/pictures about this "filfrom corrosion".
Just wondering how deep did this go into the skin?? I thought I had some as well but, whatever it was I had on mine didn't require the intense compounding that you're up against.
All I know is the FFC is some nasty stuff. If you look at my website or at some of my earlier photos, my trailer did not look too bad. In fact I was quite impressed with myself when I removed the weathered clearcoat last year never dreaming of polishing.

When I started taking the compounder to it though is when the FFC really started showing. After going over the skin once with the compounder and F7 or G6, the FFC showed up as white specs and trails. It took pass after pass of F7 literally over 10 times to get rid of it. G6 would *wear* out too quickly to tackle this one.

The white specs would slowly get less and less with each pass. This stuff is *VERY* hard. But repeated SLOW compounding did get rid of it. I do have some left in several places. Like where I started before I figured it out, or near the bottom edge where its hard to get the compounder. I'm just getting too lazy to go over it yet again

The repeated use of F7 did take its toll though. Normally you should be able to cyclo with F7 and then cyclo with S right after compounding with F7. My intense compounding left too many deep swirls in the skin. Now I have to compound with C once or probably twice to prep it for the cyclo with F7 then S.

The second tip here is when your doing your final compounding step, don't use very much pressure at all. At least not near what you used to get rid of the nasties.

The FFC was all over the sides, front and back. The top, where the clearcoat was long since gone, there was very little FFC. From what I understand is the FFC is created under the clearcoat where oxygen has gotten through the breakdown of the clearcoat. Since the top is subject to more intense weather, it did not have the opportunity to trap the nasties under the clearcoat.

Anyway that's my story and I'm sticking to it

Here is a picture of my FFC...
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Cool Here's some pics....

OK, here we go. Here are the very much anticipated photo's

A rear shot....
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Front center....

As you can see I still have the front to finish. Ran out of polish and will be running out of daylight because of the time change

Anyway, I'll can't wait to finish. I must be getting close since I bought a can of blue rustoleum to paint the lettering and pinstriping

This is what 70.5 hours gets you. So I think the 100 hour estimite is about right.
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