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07-12-2014, 05:52 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1991 29' Excella
Tulsa
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 151
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Can a newer AS be shined up?
A friend told me that they changed the aluminum and only vintage AS's can have that beautiful mirror finish.. Just wondering..
Vickie
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07-12-2014, 07:16 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2000 23' Safari
Vero Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 180
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yup. True!
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07-12-2014, 07:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,446
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I've heard that but I'm not certain it's true. I had an area of filliform corrosion on my 2005 that I cleaned up and polished. It actually came out totally mirror-like, which surprised me, and I had to etch it so that it matched the existing satin-like finish. I've seen some late 80's model AS motorhomes polished up nicely, but I'm not sure when they changed the aluminum. Maybe somebody that has actually tried it will chime in.
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"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
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07-12-2014, 08:27 PM
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Rivet Master
Southwestern
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Prior to some time in the early 80's the skin was made of Alclad aluminum sheet. This consists of a sheet of high-strength alloy (2024-T3) with a thin layer of pure aluminum bonded to the surface. The high strength alloy gives the desired mechanical properties, and the thin layer of pure aluminum gives the desired corrosion resistance. The pure aluminum also takes a very nice polish. See Alclad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Since that time the skin has been made of straight alloy with a clear coat. You can polish the alloy, but it doesn't polish up quite as nicely, nor does the shine hold up to the weather as well as the old Alclad.
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07-12-2014, 08:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,446
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Here's and older thread on the subject. According to Andy R at Inland, any Airstream can be polished to a mirror finish. http://www.airforums.com/forums/f381...ange-6981.html
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07-13-2014, 06:39 AM
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
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My 86 had faded, sun burned clear coat on the skins and it looked bad. I stripped it and polished the skins. They are not Alclad. It polished up nice enough. I agree the corrosion resistance is not there so bird droppings, leaf stains, and water spots all contribute to the polished surface reverting back to its old corroded dull gray self. A light polish every year seems to keep it okay.
I believe newer Airstreams can be polished. It takes more effort and maintenance than the Alclad.
I purchased some new 2042 T3 Alclad aluminum for a patch on my 66 Trade Wind. The new material came with almost a mirror finish on it straight from the supplier. It piece is my "standard" for judging polished aluminum.
Bottom line, newer Airstreams can be stripped and polished. It is a poor man's way of fixing the old faded clear coat. Stripping and replacing the original clear coat would be expensive.
David
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07-13-2014, 08:01 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1991 29' Excella
Tulsa
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 151
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I would love to have the clear coat reapplied on my 1992 Excella, but even finding someone to do the work is difficult and holy yike it's expensive.. The pealing looks pretty bad, but more worrisome is the possibility of corrosion.. I wonder what others do? On the other hand I would love to shine her up, but don't think it's worth it with all the maintenance.
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07-13-2014, 08:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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I have thought of stripping the roof only on my Airstream or better yet paint if white. I think the hard part with the newer Airstreams is getting the plasticoat stuff off. The non Alclad alloys are harder to polish because the surface is harder.
Perry
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09-13-2014, 11:11 AM
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New Member
1998 19' Bambi
Cedar Hills
, Utah
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 4
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I purchased this 98 Bambi about six weeks ago, the original owner had it polished and clear coated, I think it looks great
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09-18-2014, 07:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1969 29' Ambassador
brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,270
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Thats looks like a mirror finish to me! Who says you can't polish a newer AS! Look great!
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09-18-2014, 07:24 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
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It is just harder to do and it may not last as long unless clear coated.
Perry
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09-18-2014, 07:39 AM
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Rivet Master
2021 25' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,720
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Divemaster10
I purchased this 98 Bambi about six weeks ago, the original owner had it polished and clear coated, I think it looks great
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I have "polish envy"! My wife has forbidden me to begin polishing ours...."yet"....Someday!
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09-18-2014, 08:11 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1998 30' Excella 1000
Halifax
, Nova Scotia
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 137
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Polished the top half of our '98 Excella. Took some work but happy with the results. See attached before and after photo
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09-18-2014, 08:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2000 19' Bambi
mt. Prospect
, Illinois
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 829
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Polishing a newer A/S
Quote:
Originally Posted by Divemaster10
I purchased this 98 Bambi about six weeks ago, the original owner had it polished and clear coated, I think it looks great
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Oh crap, that's going to haunt me, especially as I have a couple of small areas where the clearcoat has peeled off. It does look nice.....
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09-18-2014, 02:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
, *** Big Sky Country ***Western Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dickandvicki
A friend told me that they changed the aluminum and only vintage AS's can have that beautiful mirror finish.. Just wondering..
Vickie
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You want to do what ....
If you are not a DIY and IIRC it costs about $100/ft commercially.
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09-18-2014, 02:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 29' Ambassador
brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2008
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I got a rough quote yesterday to get my 29" ambassador done at a truck polishing place, $6500...
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09-18-2014, 09:21 PM
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cramar
1992 25' Excella
Leamington
, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 73
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Speaking of Clearcoat...
I was told recently by an Airstream owner that the clearcoat that the factory applies is a special kind that can take the large expansion aluminum has under varying temperature conditions. Regular automotive clearcoat would just crack under the expansion. Can anybody confirms this?
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09-19-2014, 05:44 AM
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Rivet Master
2021 25' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,720
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cramar
I was told recently by an Airstream owner that the clearcoat that the factory applies is a special kind that can take the large expansion aluminum has under varying temperature conditions. Regular automotive clearcoat would just crack under the expansion. Can anybody confirms this?
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I find it interesting that when I asked Airstream for information about the clearcoat they simply did not seem to know exactly what it is. Apparently it is applied by an independent contractor between Alcoa's factory and when it gets to Airstream. I did find the name of the product once by searching but in the end I lost interest in my search and forget what it was...
I do remember that it is an acrylic finish of some kind though.
If you look at a late model Airstream, you can see that the end caps have a dull finish compared to the rest of the panels, this is a result of the stretching of the finish when the panel is in the die being pressed into shape.
I have inquired about polishing our Airstream and the people I spoke to say that the finish is extremely difficult to remove.
That is all I know....
Bruce
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