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01-21-2020, 08:12 AM
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#41
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Troutboy
Bob, wherein WNY? I think you told me once before.... I grew up outside Buffalo in the Williamsville/Cheektowaga area. 9 years outside there, means this stuff is dang near indestructible....
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In the Southtowns, 15mi south of Buffalo on Lake Erie.
Bob
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01-21-2020, 10:25 AM
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#42
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Rivet Master
2015 30' International
FREDERICK
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 526
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anders79
We have a 2010 and we ended up with leaks in 2018 and had everything on the AS resealed as we also had two leaks up by the windows. It was quite expensive (10K).
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$10,000 to reseal the roof or every single seam on your trailer - is that correct? That equals $400 per foot on a 25' trailer.
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01-22-2020, 09:52 AM
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#43
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2 Rivet Member
North Fayston
, Vermont
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 83
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When to reseal roof seams?
LEak test every few years and definitely try to track down any leak that does reveal itsself. Remember the leak can be on top of the trailer and showup at the window. We used Gutter seal and one more product from Vintage Trailer Supply. The money is in the labor. You have to clean out the old stuff, tape the seams an 1/8 inch away from the edge inorder to get a clean line, and then remove gaskets, etc on the roof to redo them.
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01-22-2020, 10:59 AM
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#44
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3 Rivet Member
2018 27' Globetrotter
Vancouver Island
, British Columbia
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 101
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lsbrodsky
I have attempted to overcome this issue with 3M Extreme sealant tape 4412. You clean up the old seams then apply this tape over the old. It was designed for sealing aluminum roofs and i expect it to last for as long as I own my AIrstream. The root problem is that Airstream does not use the best sealants available for this; my dealer would not use a marine caulk that I requested because it is not Airstream approved. There are marine sealants that would last a long, long time, also.
Larry
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The 3 M extreme tape is the way to go
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01-22-2020, 11:05 AM
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#45
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4 Rivet Member
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Bozman
, Maryland
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 294
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Having everything on my 2015 trailer re-sealed at Colonial Airstream. You really don’t want leaks because the water is then absorbed by the fiberglass insulation between the inner and outer skins. Unless you live in Arizona or other dry climate, that’s going to eventually create mold/mildew which will be hard to eliminate and seriously jeopardize the value of your trailer. Some people (like me) can tolerate mold and mildew, but others (like my wife) cannot. Two nights in a motel or hotel room with a slightly dirty A/C filter and she is sick with a respiratory illness.
The seals on my trailer’s roof looked fine, but I’m not taking any chances.
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01-22-2020, 12:15 PM
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#46
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2 Rivet Member
2013 27' FB International
2016 27' International
2021 30' Globetrotter
Nashville
, TN
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 82
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
I hear 5 years. Taking mine to the mothership this summer for that and many other updates. It’s a 2012 - not a drop of leaks so I’m a little nervous about having it done because they scrape the old goop out first.
But I trust the service gang there...
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Can I ask you what they charge for the service?
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01-22-2020, 12:18 PM
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#47
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4 Rivet Member
2018 30' Classic
Williamsburg
, VA
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 331
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rintintin
The 3 M extreme tape is the way to go
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Why do you say that? How long do you expect it to last? Is it because of an easier install.
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2012 F250 6.7l
US Army Watercraft Engineering Officer
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01-22-2020, 12:40 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieb1086
I have a 2016 Flying Cloud. Only leak I've had so far is the sealant around the backup camera.
That said, at 4.5 years old it will be going into Vinnie's Northbay in June for a complete roof reseal and fantastic fan vent covers (along with other work).
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My rule...NEVER drill unneeded holes in an AS.
I used high strength velcro to secure our rear view camera.
FWIW...I don't seal what isn't leaking. No scratching before the itch.
Bob
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01-22-2020, 02:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ewor
Can I ask you what they charge for the service?
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I haven’t seen the quote yet - it’s on a list of stuff including custom work I’m having done in a few months. Will post when I get the sticker shock [emoji3]
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01-22-2020, 05:48 PM
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#50
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3 Rivet Member
1998 31' Excella 1000
Simpsonville
, South Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 109
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Roof solutions
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Originally Posted by lsbrodsky
My dealer charged $900 and it took them three weeks from the time I dropped it off. I have no idea how long it actually took them to do the work, but you certainly need to let the caulk cure before you start driving down the road. My dealer used Dicor.
Larry
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Like your dealer I used Dicor Roof Coating Elastomeric, one gallon more than enough for roof, about $50 as I recall. Spring of 2017 and still in great shape. My TT a 1998 --31ft Classic has always been outside, mostly stored in SC. It quite time consuming prepping the seams. I use masking tape on each side of seems to make about a one inch neat seem after preparing. It's a 100% acrylic resin that forms a rubber like coating. It's white in color and I think it might be what they use on school buses for reflection--cooling and sealing. IDK for sure. It's got about 25,000 miles and many states and 3 years with no sign of deterioration. I'm 75 now, I sure hope roof problems are behind me. Because it took FOREVER to prep it.
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01-23-2020, 05:53 AM
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#51
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Rivet Master
2008 27' Safari FB SE
Pfafftown
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 918
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ewor
Can I ask you what they charge for the service?
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I was at Jackson Center in the fall of 2019 having some work performed. I obtained a quote of "approximately" $3000 to reseal my 27FB Airstream, vintage 2008. I've had leaks repaired at Jackson Center in the past, and often had the leaks return within 2-3 years. Some of the repair jobs on the roof I later observed were accomplished by simply applying more sealant to old sealant. I'm reluctant to spend $3000 for a job I may be redoing a couple of years later. Looks like I'll be spending some time on the roof when the weather warms up this spring and a few days of no rain are forecasted.
Note the quote was approximate because the Service Center will bill for the hours required to perform the job. This is another reason I'm reluctant to have the job performed at Jackson Center. I've been going to Jackson Center for service work for eight years. Over time I've noticed the work pace slowing, more chit chat time between techs on the floor, and less evidence of supervision in the service bay. There has been a commensurate decline in the quality of work performed. There are tremendous differences in the skill level of techs, which also could be a function of inadequate training and supervision. Airstream's rapid growth seems to be negatively impacting quality control in the factory and at the service center. This was the first visit to JC where I did not see the service manager walk through the waiting room or visible on the floor.
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Airstream - 2008 Safari 27FB SE (Sweet Pea)
TV - 2022 Ford F350 King Ranch, 6.7 Diesel, 4X4 (Big Red)
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01-23-2020, 07:17 AM
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#52
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,120
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I have found the same billing method used by our dealer, that is no fixed price quotes, just hourly billing rates, parts, and shop fees. You can get a guess as to hours, but it is not firm. If the workforce is motivated, time and materials potentially assures better quality, but I am not sure that accounts for inexperienced technicians.
Larry
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01-23-2020, 07:52 PM
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#53
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Man of means by no means
2023 28' Flying Cloud
Midland
, Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 93
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daquenzer
... I have a 2017 and in 2012 I’m taking it in to get it done. Ounce of prevention is worth pound of cure.
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Time traveler eh?
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01-24-2020, 07:35 AM
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#54
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Rivets?
1992 29' Excella
2010 22' Interstate
Van By The River
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,363
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I’ve learned some things from this thread but I’m also a bit confused...
Is the topic of this thread 1) how to seal around roof vents such as bathroom fans, Fantastic Fans, skylights and such?, or 2) how to seal the joints of the overlapping aluminum sheets that are riveted to the ribs, or 3) both of those scenarios?
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1992 29' Excella Classic / 2010 Interstate
2005 Chevrolet Suburban K2500 8.1L
2018 GMC Sierra K1500 SLT, 6.2L, Max Trailering
Got a cooped-up feeling, gotta get out of town, got those Airstream campin' blues...
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01-24-2020, 08:13 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,120
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Both...all of the above.
Larry
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01-24-2020, 12:06 PM
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#56
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3 Rivet Member
2018 27' Globetrotter
Vancouver Island
, British Columbia
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 101
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lsbrodsky
My dealer charged $900 and it took them three weeks from the time I dropped it off. I have no idea how long it actually took them to do the work, but you certainly need to let the caulk cure before you start driving down the road. My dealer used Dicor.
Larry
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I believed you got ripped off. If you use Dicor, you have to check your roof every 3 months and I can guarantee you will have to redo some parts of the Dicor sealants ever year. If you look at the airstream website they do not use Dicor as a sealant. The question is why did you dealership used Dicor?
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01-24-2020, 12:11 PM
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#57
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,120
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As I said, they used it because they said it was Airstream approved. Nevertheless, I don't have any leaks because i have covered it all in 3M tape, as I said above. It was in good shape when I did the tape, though I did follow 3M instructions for prep.
Larry
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01-25-2020, 01:14 PM
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#58
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2 Rivet Member
2005 28' Safari S/O
Bountiful
, UT
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 57
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I applied a standing seam metal roof on our house in the late 90’s. Sealed all the pipes/flashings with a one part urethane, NP1. Finally going to scrap the old stuff off and re-caulk in the spring. Zero leaks, just routine maintenance before any issues arise.
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01-26-2020, 10:47 PM
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#59
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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For the 3M tape, are You supposed to strip off all old sealant, or do you cover existing sealant with tape? I’m confused as some say they stripped all old stuff off, and others covered up previously applied sealants?
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01-26-2020, 11:16 PM
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#60
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Troutboy
For the 3M tape, are You supposed to strip off all old sealant, or do you cover existing sealant with tape? I’m confused as some say they stripped all old stuff off, and others covered up previously applied sealants?
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Strip & Clean.
Bob
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