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04-10-2012, 04:26 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
1971 23' Safari
Mobile
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 23
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What should a 'Newby' look for
We just bought a '71 Safari 23 Twin that has been sitting awhile (4-5 years), Besides a good cleaning  , what should we expect to need repair or reworking?
I plan to throw out the cushions, drapes and such, replace the tires, replace the gas tanks, and inspect the electrical, plumbing, and break systems.
Wish me luck.............
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04-10-2012, 04:42 PM
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Rivet Master 
1971 25' Tradewind
Menlo Park
, California
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,269
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For a 1971:
Axles, furnace and black tank are three that are worth doing searches for on the forum. All of them have potential issues that are far too detailed to go into on one thread.
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04-10-2012, 04:54 PM
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Rivet Master 
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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One question before you throw out the gas tanks. Are they aluminum or steel? Aluminum ones are quite pricy and well worth updating. Steel ones, yeah, go ahead and replace them.
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04-10-2012, 06:28 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
1974 23' Safari
Vintage Kin Owner
1947 25' Spartan
, Manor
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 457
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Axles for sure. I would suggest trying to get a look at the frame (pulling back a few sections of belly) and make sure there are no huge frame rust issues...
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04-10-2012, 07:07 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1971 23' Safari
Marietta
, Georgia
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 218
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theterrells
We just bought a '71 Safari 23 Twin that has been sitting awhile (4-5 years), Besides a good cleaning  , what should we expect to need repair or reworking?
I plan to throw out the cushions, drapes and such, replace the tires, replace the gas tanks, and inspect the electrical, plumbing, and break systems.
Wish me luck.............
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Congratulations on the '71 Safari twin! I also own a '71 Safari twin dual axle.
You'll want to carefully investigate the items mentioned in the thread such as axles, brakes, refrigerator, furnace, water heater, water pump, univolt (if it hasn't already been upgraded), black water tank and fresh water tank. The Armstrong air conditioner is a good one and shouldn't be tossed out needlessly.
Be careful throwing anything out before you've had a chance to fully investigate what it will take to replace the items. You might want to use the existing cushions to measure for new ones. Unless the drapes are trash, you might be best off having them dry cleaned.
Take care and have fun with your Safari.
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- David
1971 23' Airstream Safari - "Moe"
2017 Ford F350 4x4 6.7 CCLB - Silver/Black - "Max"
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04-10-2012, 07:15 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
1977 31' Sovereign
Fresno
, California
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 434
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Don't throw your curtains out just yet! You might need them for a size template for new ones if you plan to make them yourself. That's what I'm doing right now.
Congrats on your new rig! Post some pics, whydontcha?!
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Cheers,
Cara, John & Johnny
Jet, Our silver stow-a-way 
1977 31' Sovereign "The Mod Pod"
2006 Ford F-250 Super Duty
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04-10-2012, 07:47 PM
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Rivet Master 
1951 21' Flying Cloud
1960 24' Tradewind
Folsom
, California
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 729
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. . . a second job to pay for everything (?).
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Birch Plywood and Aluminum go together like
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04-10-2012, 07:48 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
1971 23' Safari
Mobile
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 23
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I have checked the frame, there are 2-3 rivets missing on the underskirt, and it is painted black and looks to be in good shape.
I am not picking it up until next week, tomorrow I am going by to remove the hub caps and spray the lugs with P-B Blaster. I will remove the wheels Monday and have new 7.00X15 tires installed. Figure that will be the best time to check the brakes and axles, I'm sure that it will need bearings repacked at the least.
I will send pictures as I get them
Thanks for all the advice.
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04-15-2012, 01:28 PM
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Rivet Master 

1987 32' Excella
Nepean
, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,415
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theterrells
I have checked the frame, there are 2-3 rivets missing on the underskirt, and it is painted black and looks to be in good shape.
I am not picking it up until next week, tomorrow I am going by to remove the hub caps and spray the lugs with P-B Blaster. I will remove the wheels Monday and have new 7.00X15 tires installed. Figure that will be the best time to check the brakes and axles, I'm sure that it will need bearings repacked at the least.
I will send pictures as I get them
Thanks for all the advice.
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Absolutely get new tires - and make sure that the vendor isn't selling you old ones, i.e., check the date codes (I've seen 3 year old tires being sold as new in tire shops). As well, repack the wheel bearings and check the brakes *BEFORE* attempting to tow the trailer home. If you see that the axles look like they may be problematic, consider having the trailer brought to your place on a flatbed.
Good luck with your acquisition - enjoy!
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AIR 12148
1987 Excella 32-foot
1999 Dodge Ram 2500HD Diesel
WBCCI 8080
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04-15-2012, 01:44 PM
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Geezer
1991 25' Excella
Sapulpa
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 90
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Roll up you sleeves
Do it just like you were eating an elephant. Fix everything as you discover it does not work. Get out the manual. Try the electric and replace light bulbs. Try to boil water. Then fix the cook top. Read the manual for sure. If you do not have a manual get one. In a year or two and lots of time and money you will begin to enjoy your work project. Do not take it to a dealer. They will crush you with their lack of attention to detail. After you figure out where the lights are try the 12 volt outlets. Then the water heater. Then the refrigerator and if it works thank god. After you open and clean all the closets you will have a n idea where thing are. Try staying in it in you driveway.
Read read study and don't believe everything you read on this site or any book. It is worth every minute.
I would not ever buy another one but I plan on being burried in my Excella. After redoing an argosy I knew enough to try a bigger and prittier full size. It is alot like getting married. Need patience curiosity and a loving wife.
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04-15-2012, 07:32 PM
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New Member
2009 16' DWR
philadelphia
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2
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is it possible to tow a 27 ft eddie baurer with a porsche cayenne
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04-16-2012, 04:57 AM
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New Member
2009 16' DWR
philadelphia
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roy murray
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is it possible to pull a 27 ft eddie baurer with a porsche cayenne
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04-16-2012, 07:18 AM
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Rivet Master 
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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yes
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04-16-2012, 08:07 AM
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Rivet Master 
Currently Looking...
Sioux Falls
, South Dakota
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,403
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Trailer inspection checklist
Start with the trailer inspection checklist at:
Air trailer inspection.pdf (623.2 KB, 3781 views)
Fix leaks, then replace window, door, and sewer vent gaskets. Repair any damage. Upgrade brakes, tires, 7-way, breakaway switch, battery, and alarms. Then repair/replace appliances and fixtures.
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04-17-2012, 06:02 AM
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2 Rivet Member 
1971 23' Safari
Mobile
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 23
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Four new tires and our trailer is ready to pull home, we plan to do it Wednesday. As I replaced the tires I also pulled the hubs and checked then repacked the wheel bearings. The electric brakes seem to be working, (they move when power is applied) and we will only pull the trailer about 10 miles to get it home so I am not worried.
When I get it home I plan to clean it inside and out, then find and fix problems.
Pictures to follow
Thanks for all your help so far, I am sure I will need much more
Floyd
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04-17-2012, 09:38 AM
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Rivet Master 
1973 27' Overlander
Currently Looking...
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,062
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Put a duct tape 'patch plug' over the interior plumbing drains at the bath/shower, bath sink and galley sink (don't forget the overflow safety drain, if provided) just to keep what ever pre-dates y'all in pipes INSIDE the pipes when towing & the wind is winding through the trailer - and then keep the air-lock drain traps full once home while you clean and disinfect the system.
This would be a good opportunity to clean and dump the holding tank if its not spotless already - yes, a PITA to include a dump stop now & have the hose & valves checked and working but still easier than a special trip later on. I failed to do this, or tape the drains, when retrieving my new trailer and regret it.. see 1st Dump & North Country Warning!!
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