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Old 06-05-2018, 11:13 AM   #1
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Who beside be has thumbed their nose at conventional RV systems and solutions and had it work out?

I broke a lot of RV rules when building my old Sovereign, that I would not post up on the forum as I was doing them because I knew there would be blowback..... Click image for larger version

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Residential frig and toilet. What's the heater? Your trailer has been my instruction model. I love unconventional. Love your upgrades and wood interior.
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:14 AM   #3
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The heater is a Williams 14,000 btu “direct vent” model. It rocks! I tried to break most every RV rule when building my trailer, five years in, so far so good!
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Hmmmm... 🤔 but does that make you a rule breaker, or a rule maker? 😁

Just up too late at night surfing, couldn’t resist the title. Of course.
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Didn't see this when you first posted it. I think our wood stove probably qualifies. Maybe the dishwasher.Click image for larger version

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What brand is the dishwasher
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Fisher & Paykel dishdrawer. If you're interested in doing this yourself, note that the range above it is the shorter 17" model, not the usual 21" model.
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One of my bigger transgressions might be how I stuffed 3 1/2” fiberglass insulation batts into the 1 1/2” or 2” cavity between the inner and outer skins. Yeah, it likely cost me some insulation value, but dude, my trailer is pretty quiet..... I don’t hear a lot of outdoor noises.
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I love your obviously unconventional Airstream!!! And the dishwasher and stove are pretty darn cool.

Love it!!
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I love your obviously unconventional Airstream!!! And the dishwasher and stove are pretty darn cool.

Love it!!
I don't know why more people don't do dishwashers. It saves so much work, and we use so much less water. We've been able to run it on our 400 watts of solar with just a 100AH AGM battery, sometimes twice in a row.

Probably a waste of space for occasional camping, but for full-time living, it's fantastic.
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I don't know why more people don't do dishwashers. It saves so much work, and we use so much less water. We've been able to run it on our 400 watts of solar with just a 100AH AGM battery, sometimes twice in a row.

Probably a waste of space for occasional camping, but for full-time living, it's fantastic.
I just noticed this post on your Fischer and Paykal dishwasher from a couple of years ago. Have you been using it for the last two years? How has it done for you? I am seriously considering a setup like this. Would you do anything differently? Thank you in advance.
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I just noticed this post on your Fischer and Paykal dishwasher from a couple of years ago. Have you been using it for the last two years? How has it done for you? I am seriously considering a setup like this. Would you do anything differently? Thank you in advance.
Yep, still using it all the time. Still working great. Still one of my favorite additions to our rig.

I had been using it to store my dirty dishes during travel, but broke a couple of dishes inside while traveling down some particularly rough roads. Now I try not to travel with anything particularly fragile in it. Plates seem to do fine, wine glasses not so much.

One concern I do have is how hard it might be to winterize. There's some hoses in there that would be difficult to drain, so you'd need to make sure you get RV antifreeze all the way through it. But since we're full-timing, we just keep the inside of the rig a comfortable temperature, and have never winterized.

We're finding it's much easier to use the dishwasher off-grid since we upgraded our battery. We had been running on a single 100ah AGM (with 400 watts of solar), so we had to watch our power pretty closely to see if we'd be able to run the dishwasher. Worked fine if it was sunny, but couldn't use it if it was cloudy. I swapped the battery for a single 100ah lithium (battleborn) and now I don't really have to worry about it anymore.

The the inverter running the dishwasher pulls about 50 amps (12V) for a half hour to an hour, depending on which setting you use. Most of that power is to run the heater, so it uses far less power if you feed it with hot water from your water heater. We have the Precisiontemp RV-550 instant water heater, and have found that the dishwasher doesn't consume water fast enough to kick the water heater on. We used to try to prime the hot water line for the dishwasher, but now with the new battery we have plenty of power, so we don't bother.
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Hi, great idea, but for me, my trailer has the larger oven and my furnace is right below my oven. [no place in my trailer that it would fit]
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