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10-27-2018, 07:51 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 773
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Trim coming loose
The lower trim on our 2017 FC is coming off (2 picture attached). I’ve tried Gorilla double sided tape and while it works, it is not perfect. Any recommendation on a more permanent solution?
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10-27-2018, 08:11 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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If it is the vinyl pulling back or coming out of the channel that is shrinkage. Not sure on the newer trailers but on the older ones they placed a metal cap at each end and a pop rivet through it and the vinyl strip to hold it in place.
Looks like it was brake time at the factory when that was supposed to have been installed.
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10-27-2018, 08:30 AM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Not an uncommon problem. You can repair by using 3M VHB TAPE. 1/2” for top and 3/4” for the bottom.
Pull the trim away from the trailer approx 1’ or until it has a good bond. Be careful not to over flex the trim because the chrome will wrinkle. Remove the old adhesive from the trim and channel. Apply the new 3M VHB tape in place and them restock the trim in the channel.
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10-27-2018, 08:59 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2013 19' Flying Cloud
2018 23' Flying Cloud
Lincoln
, CA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 28
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I have a similar problem, however the ENTIRE trim piece is loose, not just the inner trim. Same solution using 3M VHB? Or do I need to use different kind of glue/sealant?
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10-27-2018, 09:04 AM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CoastieJohn
I have a similar problem, however the ENTIRE trim piece is loose, not just the inner trim. Same solution using 3M VHB? Or do I need to use different kind of glue/sealant?
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John,
You have a screw loose....... haha.
No you will need to remove the chrome inner trim and replace the screws or poprivits that are under it. You can then use 3M VHB to reattach the innertrim piece back to the channel.
See attached pics
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10-27-2018, 09:55 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2013 19' Flying Cloud
2018 23' Flying Cloud
Lincoln
, CA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 28
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GMFL/Ronnie, Thanks very much for the info and pics! This is an easy repair now that I know how it's attached. We just returned from 10k mile trip to Alaska and back. I was on top of screws coming loose during the trip, at least the ones I could see. Thanks again!
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10-27-2018, 05:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
Not an uncommon problem. You can repair by using 3M VHB TAPE. 1/2” for top and 3/4” for the bottom.
Pull the trim away from the trailer approx 1’ or until it has a good bond. Be careful not to over flex the trim because the chrome will wrinkle. Remove the old adhesive from the trim and channel. Apply the new 3M VHB tape in place and them restock the trim in the channel.
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Ah....that makes a lot of sense. I ended up stopping at Walmart when running errands to see if they had VHB tape. They do not. However, they did have a 3M tape made specifically for auto trim. I tried to see how the two tapes compared by looking online, but I could not figure it out. I ended up buying the tape and the trim as been fixed by applying about a 6" piece of tape near the end of the loose pieces of trim. Seems to work very well.
Thanks you!
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07-24-2021, 11:41 AM
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Rivet Master
2020 22' Bambi
2022 25' Globetrotter
St-Laurent
, Quebec
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 883
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
John,
You have a screw loose....... haha.
No you will need to remove the chrome inner trim and replace the screws or poprivits that are under it. You can then use 3M VHB to reattach the innertrim piece back to the channel.
See attached pics
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I have this exact problem on the exact same piece. A few questions for @GMFL if I may:
-In a situation like this, how does one remove the chrome insert without damaging it so it can be reused?
-On a 2020 AS, would the rail be fastened by screws or rivets? If rivets, what size would they normally be?
-What is the caulking brand AS uses for this so it matches?
Thanks!
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09-03-2021, 09:01 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,656
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I noticed the same issue on my 2017. It's under roof and the Sun/rain never touch it. Dust? Plenty. It hasn't moved for a while and so it just let go.
The good news it's the trim on the 'segment protector' and I was considering a stainless screw and nut close to the end vs. VHB tape (which I have somewhere)
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09-03-2021, 09:12 AM
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Rivet Master
2020 22' Bambi
2022 25' Globetrotter
St-Laurent
, Quebec
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 883
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollysdad
I noticed the same issue on my 2017. It's under roof and the Sun/rain never touch it. Dust? Plenty. It hasn't moved for a while and so it just let go.
The good news it's the trim on the 'segment protector' and I was considering a stainless screw and nut close to the end vs. VHB tape (which I have somewhere)
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I refastened the rail which had detached on mine with rivets dipped in Sixaflex then used VBH to reattach the trim. Drove many many miles since. Hasn't budged.
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09-03-2021, 10:40 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,744
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Hi
Mine's falling off up front and starting to come loose in a couple of other places. Based on what I saw them doing at JC, I'm going to try the "replace the whole thing" approach. The new rub rail material isn't crazy expensive. OODM will get you a lifetime supply in a couple of days.
Bob
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09-03-2021, 11:19 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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^
Be prepared to find more holes than fasteners, you may even get lucky and find a few broken drill bits along the way...AMHIK
Bob
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09-03-2021, 07:53 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
West Lake Hills
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 1,644
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
Not an uncommon problem. You can repair by using 3M VHB TAPE. 1/2” for top and 3/4” for the bottom.
Pull the trim away from the trailer approx 1’ or until it has a good bond. Be careful not to over flex the trim because the chrome will wrinkle. Remove the old adhesive from the trim and channel. Apply the new 3M VHB tape in place and them restock the trim in the channel.
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3M VHB tape. Don’t wrinkle it. I use the 3M primer too.
I’ve also replaced the entire strip. It is fairly inexpensive.
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09-04-2021, 05:05 AM
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Rivet Master
2020 22' Bambi
2022 25' Globetrotter
St-Laurent
, Quebec
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 883
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus
Don’t wrinkle it.
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I second that. The plastic film that covers the surface of the trim breaks up easily when no longer new. Don’t bend it too much, or simply get new trim.
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09-04-2021, 06:06 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Plastic Chrome?
Bob
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No...
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