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09-18-2019, 09:14 AM
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Rivet Master
2020 25' Flying Cloud
Atlanta
, Georgia
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 533
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Those damn European hinges
I'm not a Europhobe, but they can keep their damn hinges. Meanwhile I keep having them come apart (not in a position to post pictures). Remember, there's a piece on the cabinet box and a piece on the door. the piece on the door shoehorns into the piece on the box, but my getting them back together is a matter of luck, not skill. I've looked on line. It seems to be one of those things that's so easy that nobody has posted anything about it . Can some one give me a clue about what the approach is?
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09-18-2019, 09:22 AM
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Moderator
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,535
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The part closest to the hinge needs to engage the fixed mount on the doorframe first, then the far end can be clicked in pretty easily. I've built 3 IKEA kitchens over time, this is very familiar hardware.
It might be helpful to dismount a single hinge from the door so you can easily mount and dismount it from the fixed part on the doorframe without having to fiddle with the door itself, until you get a feel for it and then it'll be easier to know how to hold the door to align the mechanism.
One thing I notice about the brand Airstream uses is that the little release lever on the far end from the hinged part is too easy to accidentally snag and pull, which is what leads to the repeated disconnections. And of course I only knock one loose when I'm tired and inattentive and it's 10x more frustrating to put back together because of that.
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09-18-2019, 09:33 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,310
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My problem has been that some of them come apart because the screws come loose. They are little and very hard to find on the floor. Basically have to replace an entire hinge just because of one screw because hardware stores don't carry them. Dumb.
I will AS would stop using them, or at least someone could explain WHY they use them.
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09-18-2019, 09:39 AM
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Wheels Itch)(Must Travel
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
- east coastal area -
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 683
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Problem solved. The end can be clipped after the zip tie is tight. When door is closed nothing is visible.
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09-18-2019, 09:40 AM
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Wheels Itch)(Must Travel
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
- east coastal area -
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 683
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Sorry about sideways pic
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09-18-2019, 09:46 AM
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Moderator
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,535
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Quote:
Originally Posted by az-streamer
Sorry about sideways pic
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Zero Gravitas — 2017 Flying Cloud 26U | WBCCI# 15566
He has all of the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire. — Sir Winston Churchill
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09-18-2019, 10:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,310
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Quote:
Originally Posted by az-streamer
Attachment 352431
Problem solved. The end can be clipped after the zip tie is tight. When door is closed nothing is visible.
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Very good idea. Thanks!!
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09-18-2019, 09:22 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 28' Flying Cloud
Chapin
, South Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 314
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Go to woodworkerexpress.com and check out Tiomos Clip Protector, part# 1ZV639070301924596, their item # 11289919. These clips snap over the hinge release tab to eliminate it accidently releasing. 42 cents each. I just installed last week on every hinge on my AS. It only took a couple of minutes to do them all.
Thanks to a recent thread on this, which is where I picked up this information and solution.
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09-19-2019, 04:59 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,052
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I bought the little grey plastic clip things. They seem to mostly work, but I still have one or two that come apart, as noted above, because a screw comes loose. Pain in the keister.
Mike
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09-19-2019, 08:32 AM
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Moderator
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,535
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StuartsDad
Go to woodworkerexpress.com and check out Tiomos Clip Protector, part# 1ZV639070301924596, their item # 11289919. These clips snap over the hinge release tab to eliminate it accidently releasing. 42 cents each. I just installed last week on every hinge on my AS. It only took a couple of minutes to do them all.
Thanks to a recent thread on this, which is where I picked up this information and solution.
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Thanks for that, I think I'll order a bucketful. However, I think you posted the tracking # for your order rather than the part #, since 1ZV is a UPS tracking number prefix. It looks like the part number shown at WoodworkerExpress is F072135807540 and their SKU is 11289919
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09-19-2019, 09:28 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Washington
, Washington, D.C.
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,272
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az-streamer - very simple solution, very nice, thank for sharing! (And a whole lot less cost-wise than the plastic Tiomos clips).
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09-19-2019, 10:36 AM
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New Member
2018 27' International
Sharpsburg
, Georgia
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by az-streamer
Attachment 352431
Problem solved. The end can be clipped after the zip tie is tight. When door is closed nothing is visible.
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I zip tie mine too and it was a game changer.
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09-19-2019, 11:00 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 23' Flying Cloud
Eagle Creek
, OR
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 118
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Plastic clip thingies look like a winner. BUT... on a slightly different tack, the drawer slide clips are even more inscrutable to reattach. Any primer advice for the clumsy Euro-challenged? Thnx for the thread hijack/diversion.
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2018 Airstream 23FB Flying Cloud
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09-19-2019, 11:00 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 30' Flying Cloud
2008 23' International
Keremeos
, British Columbia
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 845
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Airstream provided us with a baggie of these clips (for free) when we were at the factory in May. Maybe try calling the Airstream store.
Lisa
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09-19-2019, 11:18 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2018 27' Flying Cloud
Issaquah
, Washington
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 18
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Hinges
My under sink doors came off during my last trip. I found these tiny screws on the floor. Where do they go? I looked all over the internet and no luck. This so frustrating.....Thanks for any help!!
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09-19-2019, 11:38 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 28' International
Trois-Rivieres
, Quebec
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 704
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I did the same (tie wrap), a cheap and quick fix that works!
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09-19-2019, 01:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Washington
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,591
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caffeinated
I bought the little grey plastic clip things. They seem to mostly work, but I still have one or two that come apart, as noted above, because a screw comes loose. Pain in the keister.
Mike
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Screws coming loose. Imo,biggger the prob. I usec tape at first then went with the zip ties. They don't release anymore but the srews docome lose. thinking of some !octite or =.
I was going to buy a doz or of the c!ips above, buy the shiping was more than the clips.
B
P.s. The reinstall trick is to focus on the very small round tabs on the base side, the cabinet slips over them and pivots to lock/click at the end
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09-19-2019, 02:34 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 20' Flying Cloud
austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 82
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During a Q&A with Justin Humphreys (AS VP) and Rick March (General Manager Customer Relations Group) at the 2017 International Rally, I explained the problem with the European hinges. Rick said there are plastic clips that are sent with all models to the dealers and it's up to the dealers to put them on the hinges. Rick then passed around a sign up sheet for names/addresses for free plastic clips (which I did receive). I wonder if you called AS Service Dept if they'd send you some (?).
During my last annual inspection at the dealer, I did bring up the plastic clips and they had no idea of what I was talking about.
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09-19-2019, 02:50 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 28' Flying Cloud
Chapin
, South Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 314
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DKB SATX. Thanks for catching my part# error. Mfg part# is F072135807540.
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09-19-2019, 03:11 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 23' International
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 92
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Quote:
Originally Posted by az-streamer
Attachment 352431
Problem solved. The end can be clipped after the zip tie is tight. When door is closed nothing is visible.
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That's Brilliant.
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