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12-17-2020, 09:17 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Brook Park
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 33
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Metal Coatings
I have used Eastwood rust encapsulator. There are two types both of which only require scraping loose rust of off the area to be painted. Great stuff! About $20 for a 15oz spray can. Frequently on sale. There is also a brush-on variety. Same encapsulation just not as able to easily get into the nooks and crannies like the spray stuff. Also the rubberized spray may work beat on the location causing issues. eastwood.com
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12-17-2020, 10:08 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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Originally Posted by dznf0g
In the past I tried rustoleum and rattle can bed liner. No go. Galvanized is very particular about coatings which will stick. A year ago, I prepped and prepped and used por 15. So far, so good. Prepping included sanding, vinegar soak, por 15 cleaner and metal prep (twice), then two coats.of.por 15 paint.
DO NOT skimp on the prepping!!!!
Somehow, I didn't take a.finished pic.....but its black and shiny. Attachment 384986Attachment 384987Attachment 384988Attachment 384989
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Try this next time, lay soaked towel let set overnight.👍
Bob
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12-17-2020, 04:02 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
2017 30' Flying Cloud
Highland
, California
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 431
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This must be specific to certain models and years of the AS. My 2017 30' FC has a portion of the vertical ends of the bumper compartment where they attach to the bumper are open to the outside. I don't have a picture but the cross section looks something like this (l . I keep my awning pull rod in this compartment and I frequently see the end of the rod sticking out of the compartment against the horizonal curve of the inside end of the bumper. No water collects in this compartment. However you can lose small items (Nuts and bolts) through these openings. Perhaps that's why AS changed the design and closed the ends.
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12-18-2020, 04:08 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 30' Classic
Lake Charles
, SW Louisiana
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 279
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Our '18 Classic came with some diamond stamped aluminum in the base of the rear bumper compartment of which included drain holes in numerous locations.
Have since added some 1/2" W x 1/4" T(hick) adesive backed weatherstriping on the underside of the cover edging to help prevent water intrusion. As well added a piece of 1/8" neoprene rubber cut to fit over the diamond plate and drilled a series of holes in it.
Has no totally eliminated water getting in there, but no near as much as before and since its where I (and most) store the sewer hose, it gets opened frequently and when found to have water droplets, I leave it open to air dry.
IMO, this is just another example of where Airstream could make some low cost improvements, i.e. redesign of the rear bumper storage compartment and lid.
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12-18-2020, 11:08 AM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,694
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Different trim lines have different bumpers. The Classic is quite different than the Safari/Flying Cloud line. The Safari we had just had a simple compartment with weep holes and all we stored in there was the electric cable. The Classic has a shelf and seems to be designed with the silly idea water won't get in.
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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09-25-2021, 07:52 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari
Jacksonville
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 42
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Don’t know if I’m directing this properly, but this is in reply to Robert Cross regarding the tiles.
I’ve got a leak in my rear storage compartment and like your tile idea. I’m still trying to eliminate the leak and plan to rip out the carpet, replace some of the rotted subfloor near the bumper and use tiles as you did. I’ve looked at tiles up and down the Internet and haven’t found anything that seems right yet. So far the marine tiles I’ve seen weigh almost a pound per tile, and I want to go as lightweight as possible. I especially like the tiles in your second or third photo with the more circular design. Do you recall how much they weigh who is the manufacturer?
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09-25-2021, 08:24 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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Originally Posted by asv2
Don’t know if I’m directing this properly, but this is in reply to Robert Cross regarding the tiles.
I’ve got a leak in my rear storage compartment and like your tile idea. I’m still trying to eliminate the leak and plan to rip out the carpet, replace some of the rotted subfloor near the bumper and use tiles as you did. I’ve looked at tiles up and down the Internet and haven’t found anything that seems right yet. So far the marine tiles I’ve seen weigh almost a pound per tile, and I want to go as lightweight as possible. I especially like the tiles in your second or third photo with the more circular design. Do you recall how much they weigh who is the manufacturer?
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You got to whom you were directing at.....I'm here.
These are the ones I put in the boat storage compartments.
They are not the gray tiles that you see in some of my posts, which were not as flexible and some had to be cut with a cutting wheel.
But these are much more flexible and easier to cut and they come in a whole bunch of colors.
Hope this helps....
Bob
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Speaking of ripping out carpet this is my rear storage compartment, which also was flooded and took five days under the heat lamp to dry.
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09-26-2021, 12:19 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari
Jacksonville
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 42
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Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
You got to whom you were directing at.....I'm here.
These are the ones I put in the boat storage compartments.
They are not the gray tiles that you see in some of my posts, which were not as flexible and some had to be cut with a cutting wheel.
But these are much more flexible and easier to cut and they come in a whole bunch of colors.
Hope this helps....
Bob
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Speaking of ripping out carpet this is my rear storage compartment, which also was flooded and took five days under the heat lamp to dry.
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Your project really came out nice. Thanks very much for the link, the Dri Dek looks like a good product and easy to install.
My rear compartment is getting saturated from the bottom up in a small section just inside and to the right. I’ve never resealed the banana seams and hope doing that will take care of the problem b/c I’m running out of places to reseal!
Do you also have the manufacturer name for the more rigid gray tiles you used in the back compartment? I’m thinking they may hold up better when dragging things in and out of the back compartment.
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09-26-2021, 03:08 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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Wow....that was over 10yrs ago and I bought them at either HD or Lowe's' and I didn't see them on either site now though.
This is a smooth surface tile on the Azon
Good luck in the search..
Bob
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09-27-2021, 10:27 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari
Jacksonville
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
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Ahhh, my mistake, I thought it was fairly recent because your post was in 2020! Thanks for your tips I’ll keep up my search!
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09-29-2021, 03:51 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,694
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There are many types of tile—ceramic, glass, porcelain, vinyl, stone and more. Vinyl would be the cheapest, lightest and easiest to cut. Tile does not provide a waterproof surface. Even with tile using mortar, unless you use an epoxy or polyurethane grout, or use a sealer on regular ceramic, glass, porcelain or stone, water penetrates grout and keeps mortar damp. Sealers have to be renewed every few years. Vinyl is lighter and most lock together, but aren't waterproof. Some floor tiles have OSB backing that swells when it gets wet—don't buy that. Thus you must waterproof the subfloor—there are sealants for wood that I used in our trailer, but can't remember the name. There are paints for metal that will seal it, but you must remove the rust first. Things are changing rapidly in the flooring world, so there may be new products that work better. Have you used silicone spray on the rubber seals for the door? It will keep the rubber in better shape and make the seal work better.
There are lots of options with tile, but in a compartment maybe all you need is a marine paint on the metal.
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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