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01-10-2021, 10:48 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Woodway
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 155
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Battery power tools
Ditto on the DeWalt. Got a 20V driver/drill that came out while the 18V were still being made, around 2011. The two batteries are still giving good service.
The brushless tools are even better. Wife got me the 'middle' size impact 1/2" impact driver a few months ago which outperforms my US-made, air-powered Ingersoll Rand. No problem busting loose an old, rusted-on ball nut.150 ft/lb lug nuts? Easy. Best of all, most of their line/components are made in the US.
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01-10-2021, 10:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,656
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Batteries are a problem everywhere.
My advice would be to find a brand you like (I like Dewalt) and then buy tools that have interchangeable batteries. At least you'll have a stockpile of batteries.
Now, when my 18v. Dewalt battery died, I went to Amazon and instead of the $50 Dewalt, I bought the $18 lookalike.
I must say, I can't tell the difference. I take a Sharpie and write the purchase date on the battery. I'll see if they outlive the OEM battery.
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01-10-2021, 11:28 AM
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diesel maniac
Airstream - Other
Tucson
, AZ
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 2,550
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We used to use Milwaukee but they cheapened their product line in recent years. I asked the repair guy at our local tool supply and he recommended Makita and said that Makita is the one that shows up for repairs the least. I had been using Milwaukee 28 volt stuff and the batteries kept falling out, very dangerous when working on a ladder with folks under you or working over a glass cooktop etc. They were still under warranty but they told us the battery falling out was not covered We had to duct tape them on.
Keep in mind we use our tools all day every day in the business, and we are very hard on them. The Makitas have lived up to the challenge, even the batteries. Never really had too many battery issues with any brand though but per policy they are recharged after every use. Kept overnight on the chargers then put on the trucks in the AM. See other trades show up at the job and drag out their battery chargers and plug in their dead batteries from the day before.
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01-10-2021, 11:43 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
West Lake Hills
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 1,644
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Another vote for DeWalt. I have a nearly complete line of DeWalt 20V tools, all with interchangeable batteries. Probably four-ish batteries are more than enough for my needs. When I work on a rental property for the day I take a couple batteries with me and leave the charger at home. I've been very happy with the tools and the batteries. But I'm sure the others mentioned are good too. Either way you go, you can often find deals on a collection of common tools.
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01-10-2021, 11:51 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 23' FB International
Woodstock
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,428
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At two months old I would think you have recourse to manufacturers warranty.
Ryobi can be hit and miss. The tools are priced economically for a reason IMO
You pay a lot more for Milwaukee but you get a great tool. Problem is finding enough quality for the expected use. I wouldn't by Milwaukee for your requirements. I have a light duty Bosch Lithium Ion drill kit that is standing up to my kind of abuse...continues to surprise me
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01-10-2021, 12:58 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollysdad
Batteries are a problem everywhere.
My advice would be to find a brand you like (I like Dewalt) and then buy tools that have interchangeable batteries. At least you'll have a stockpile of batteries.
Now, when my 18v. Dewalt battery died, I went to Amazon and instead of the $50 Dewalt, I bought the $18 lookalike.
I must say, I can't tell the difference. I take a Sharpie and write the purchase date on the battery. I'll see if they outlive the OEM battery.
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I had to give up on a 34yr old air two years ago.
Replaced it with a Dewalt battery, only now will it most likely outlast me.🥴
I have three different Dewalt tools with two batt's and a quick charger....4 times the cost of 'old air'. 😲
A lot heavier also, the damn thing weighs 12lb with the 20v battery, a LOT less ergonomic, (unbalanced),👎
Bob
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01-10-2021, 01:01 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Boise
, Idaho
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 78
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I pick up Ryobi knock off lithiums on ebay for a reasonable price. Prefer the 6 amp for my Ryobi air compressor.
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01-10-2021, 02:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 31' Sovereign
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,017
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I have 20 volt dewalt yard tools and several voltage battery drills. dewalt, bosch couple off brands. My line trimmer is 20 volt brushless, out of warranty. Dewalt had a run of some brushless magnets falling off, took to serv center for repair stated out of warranty, resonable price to refurbish, several weeks rec. email sending new trimmer not refurb no cost or postal charge. Speaks highly of customer serv.
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01-10-2021, 02:18 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2012 30' International
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 121
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Before ditching your tools, look through Ali Express to see if you can get knockoff batteries. I used to get my DeWalt 12v really cheap, like 2 for $35. They lasted as long as the originals.
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01-11-2021, 12:41 AM
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:SPACE A" S/O 11 Air19745
2006 34' Classic S/O
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,766
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I have used Makita, now using DeWalt 18-20 volt and also 20 volt a18 adaptor until the 18 volt batteries quit. If you need a battery powered riveter the DeWalt only handles 3/16 rivets where as Milwaukee has one that fits 1/8 -3/16 rivets. It is expensive!
guskmg
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01-11-2021, 05:18 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
Rogers
, Arkansas
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 751
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I have been in the power tool and equipment business for over 30 years now. I would suggest you stay away from the cheaper tool brands like Harbor Freight tools, Ryobi, Ridgid etc. Stick with Makita, Milwaukee or DeWalt. I do not believe Hilti makes a cordless air compressor but they do make very good tools. As for less reliability within these top 3 brands, if it is substantially cheaper at a Lowes, Home Depot, etc, it's because they are making the inside cheaper with plastic or cast gears instead of cut steel and a cheaper motors. You will also notice the cheaper tools come with smaller amp hour batteries. As they saying goes... "You get what you pay for" unless it's Craiglist or something like that.
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01-11-2021, 06:28 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Although this thread is about batteries, I would comment on my Makita drill, I have had 3 mechanical issues over the years. First, about 5 years ago the chuck lost its ability to grip the bits. about a year ago the reversing switch button broke. Presently the clutch hand ring has lost its detents.
The good news is Makita makes parts readily available and they are reasonably priced. Not a throw away tool...and as I have said, it gets used a lot for a homeowner type of service.
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01-12-2021, 09:45 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 19' International
Tallahassee
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 938
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Quote:
Originally Posted by guskmg
I have used Makita, now using DeWalt 18-20 volt and also 20 volt a18 adaptor until the 18 volt batteries quit. If you need a battery powered riveter the DeWalt only handles 3/16 rivets where as Milwaukee has one that fits 1/8 -3/16 rivets. It is expensive!
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So, you can use 18-volt batteries on the 20-volt tool? That'd be good, as I have two 18-volt DeWalt tools and batteries (maybe three batteries).
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01-12-2021, 11:50 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,656
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WhereStream
So, you can use 18-volt batteries on the 20-volt tool?
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I don't believe so.
I use the 18v. DeWalt system and the 20v. uses a different battery.
However, I was going to buy a 18v. DeWalt impact driver for lug nuts and I found the newer 18v. batteries have an 18v. set of terminals and a 56v. set of terminals for hi power tools like the impact driver. You can use the bigger batteries on the old tools, but I think the new tools won't work with the old batteries (or at least for long)
I bought a used 90 deg. DeWalt drill, added a 3/4" socket and planned on using it for the stabilizers and the BAL Chocks. I learned the chocks don't need to expand much and the drill was torquing my wrist when it stopped. The supplied wrench is just as fast as the drill, and easy on your wrist.
The drill driver works great on the stabilizers, though.
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01-15-2021, 10:47 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2024 30' Flying Cloud
Hot Springs Village
, Arkansas
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill M.
Lots of good ones. I personally use Makita and Bosch. Have you looked for batteries on Amazon?
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I second this excellent advice. I have a few Milwaukee powered tools. I work with a lot of contractors they hate their Ryobi and Dewalts for the most part.
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01-15-2021, 11:19 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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This 2017 "Lithium Battery Tools" thread may have some helpful info, even though it is a bit dated IMO:
https://www.airforums.com/forums/f44...ls-170188.html
We continue to be very happy with our quiver of Milwaukee M12 tools: 3/8" drill, small skil-saw, USB charger, and so forth. It is amazing, after 3 years, how well the lithium batteries hold a charge!
Happy New Year,
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01-15-2021, 12:03 PM
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2017 25' International
Niagara-on-the-Lake
, ON Canada
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,837
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonDNC
Milwaukee fan here but they don’t have an air compressor I don’t think. I have a viair
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Milwaukee makes one fir the M18 battery and has a tank and one for the M12.
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01-15-2021, 01:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,310
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans627
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This is what I use. Been reliable so far. Works very well. Easy to use.
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01-15-2021, 03:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventure.AS
Milwaukee makes one fir the M18 battery and has a tank and one for the M12.
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Are you referring to this M12 tire inflator?
https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Produc...ools/2475-21XC
The M18 with tank: https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Produc...essors/2840-20
Do you have a tank for the M12?
Also, I don't see any "duty cycle" specs. For a serious compressor for more than inflating tires, like winterizing the pipes, many folks use the Viair 450 [hot link in blue] which has a 100% duty cycle FWIW. Expensive . . . but often the right tool for the job IMO.
Cheers,
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