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06-14-2018, 03:25 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1973 31' Sovereign
1978 Argosy 30
1985 31' Excella
Sacramento
, California
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 323
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How come no one has come up with a parking brake for the AS
This might sound like a dumb question.. but here goes
After all these years and thousands of RV's... how come the Airstream trailer has never come up with a parking brake...
We watched a box trailer... get un-hitched... at the campground... they had put simple 2x4 , 4x4 blocks behind the wheels... on both sides... and then proceeded to un-hitch the TV.
Once the trailer hitch cleared the ball... zing.. the trailer jumped the blocks behind the wheels and proceeded to roll down the pad... and into the lake...
This then got me thinking.. how come my AS doesn't have a drum parking brake like the TV does...
Sure you can get X blocks.. but I have seen people forget them too and start off after hooking up... they didn't even slide the wheel... etc.. just added a little drag.. enough that the drive then got out and checked.. removed 'em and with a red lobster look of a deer caught in the headlights.. threw them in the TV bed and speed off...
Hmmm... so how hard could it be that someone hasn't come up with a way to set the trailer drum brake so it becomes a parking brake affair...
In todays mechanical gurus... I would think if someone came up with a good solution.. they would get extreamly rich selling the idea/product to ALL trailer RV's manufactures...
Just think.. no more need for blocks.. x blocks and other expensive wheel locking devices... why you just pull the handle and it sets all 4 wheels brakes... simple and effecent... go figure..
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06-14-2018, 04:16 AM
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Reads a lot
2017 30' Classic
Titusville
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,209
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I’m so glad you posted this. Where’s the parking brake? Was one of my first “newbie” questions. It seems like a great idea to me. I considered pulling the pin on the brake controller “emergency brake” but was concerned I would do some kind of weird damage to the brakes, the controller or the batteries. I will be following along to see what others have to say.
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06-14-2018, 05:01 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
Hilltop Lakes
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,767
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I’m so glad you posted this. Where’s the parking brake? Was one of my first “newbie” questions. It seems like a great idea to me. I considered pulling the pin on the brake controller “emergency brake” but was concerned I would do some kind of weird damage to the brakes, the controller or the batteries. I will be following along to see what others have to say.
Good choice! With that pin pulled, the electric brakes stay energized and soon overheat. They are designed for intermittent operation only.
I use a really big set of trucker's wheel chocks from Northern Tool. No tiny plastic chocks for my rig. Single-axle, so X chocks won't work anyway.
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06-14-2018, 05:24 AM
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3 Rivet Member
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Elk Rapids
, Michigan
Join Date: Jun 2017
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Extra weight
Extra cost
Would probably cause more problems than they solve.
I'm sure somebody tried it at one point and decided it wasn't worth the effort. Most places you'll camp are fairly flat and towing a trailer requires a certain amount of technical ability. It's also more important to have your trailer brakes working when you're underway, something that would go away the first time you left the campground with your parking brake engaged....
John
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06-14-2018, 05:42 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Two of these...👍
Parking brake...
Bob
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06-14-2018, 06:03 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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So my son just bought an Opus Offroad "overlander" camper, and what is on the tongue? A parking brake lever like cars have had between the seats for years. Pulls a cable to each hub and locks the trailer in place.
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06-14-2018, 06:04 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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How many people would hook up and drive away without releasing the brake... how many wouldn't notice they had done that for hours? Yanking the emergency brake cable is a good way to stop the trailer from rolling down a hill. Then chock and reinsert, but hefty chocks and X chocks are harder to forget.
There was a picture quite a while back of a moho which had dragged a toad until the back tires AND rims were worn down to the axle.
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06-14-2018, 06:09 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foiled Again
How many people would hook up and drive away without releasing the brake... how many wouldn't notice they had done that for hours? Yanking the emergency brake cable is a good way to stop the trailer from rolling down a hill. Then chock and reinsert, but hefty chocks and X chocks are harder to forget.
There was a picture quite a while back of a moho which had dragged a toad until the back tires AND rims were worn down to the axle.
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Not so sure about that, Paula. Had this wheel chock since 1993, and last week I broke it by driving off.
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06-14-2018, 06:11 AM
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2013 20' Flying Cloud
Westerly
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
So my son just bought an Opus Offroad "overlander" camper, and what is on the tongue? A parking brake lever like cars have had between the seats for years. Pulls a cable to each hub and locks the trailer in place.
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Pretty cool, would be nice to have as a redundant device, but no way I am going to trust a parking brake alone if I'm on any incline that would cause the trailer to roll.
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06-14-2018, 10:25 AM
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2017 19' International
Tallahassee
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 938
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cleared the ball... zing.. the trailer jumped the blocks behind the wheels and proceeded to roll down the pad... and into the lake...
I picked up a good tip here on AirForums ... keep the safety chains engaged until the trailer is unhooked and safely at rest.
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06-14-2018, 10:28 AM
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Trailer Sold, Waving
2019 26' Flying Cloud
Stettler
, Alberta
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,032
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I was just thinking, with most Airstream's being double axle trailers, could you just lock the wheels by threading a cable or chain through two wheels on one side? Would also serve as an anti-theft device besides the hitch socket lock.
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06-14-2018, 11:08 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1986 25' Sovereign
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 283
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The first thing I do when getting ready to unhitch is lock both sets of wheels with the wheel locks between the wheels. Last thing I do when leaving is to walk around to make sure antennas, vents, etc are in place and all lights are working. Sometimes more than once. Should be your check list.
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06-14-2018, 11:09 AM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Ebro
, Fla Panhandle
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,212
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It does seem that the existing brakes could work as parking brakes too.
This just came up on Pelican, my favorite Porsche forum.
Might be applicable
There are pure mechanical line locks, but maybe one with a solenoid might be better.
https://goo.gl/images/QxS7cK
https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/63002/10002/-1
Cheers Richard
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06-14-2018, 11:39 AM
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4 Rivet Member
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Lebanon
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2017
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Auto's have mechanical parking brakes, why not trailers. Good question.
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06-14-2018, 11:48 AM
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2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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I have dual axles, so a plastic wedge type chock between the wheels works for me. It has a knob to tighten it up, and once seated, the tires will skid if I try to drive off without removing the chocks. Don't ask how I determined this...
Have no idea what brand, but the wedges are yellow plastic. It's number one on the arrival checklist after setting the emergency brake and putting the TV in park, and shutting engine down.
The hitch does NOT get disconnected until the AS is solidly chocked and I've double-checked to verify that condition...
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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06-14-2018, 12:00 PM
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Reads a lot
2017 30' Classic
Titusville
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2016
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I have and used the wheel locks that are the X design. I also have the chocks and use those as well. I have not yet needed to park on an incline but I still think a manual hand brake would be a good idea. I swear I had a brake of some kind that I had on a horse trailer many, many decades ago. As I recall it was red and when engaged, that trailer would not move, not an inch even with 4 horses loaded but don’t remember anything else about it. Don’t know if it was something my dad bought or if he made it. I know there might be a few that forget to release the brake, just like they do in cars.
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She Believed She Could so She Did.
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06-14-2018, 12:16 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2005 34' Classic
tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 161
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its a good idea..if..you NEVER forget to release the brake when you break camp. i'll take chocks and x-chocks everytime cuz i'm a bonehead. i'd forget and burn up the trailer when the brakes caught fire..
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06-14-2018, 12:47 PM
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1991 25' Excella
2011 19' Flying Cloud
Santa Ynez
, California
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,185
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Disconnecting on anything more than a mild slope is never a good idea in my book.
Here's my 1952 Military M100 trailer hand brake..
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06-14-2018, 01:16 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1975 27' Overlander
Galena
, Illinois
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 172
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parking brake?
I don't think AS will ever put an emergency brake on future models. Just doesn't sound like it's a money maker. But we all find out afterwards that we need something. Wheel Chocks, (good ones), even if you just put it on one side. Way better than skimpy blocks that 7,000lbs. can run over like they're not even there. That trailer in the lake story sounds horrifying.
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06-14-2018, 02:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,655
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Cars and trucks have mechanical/hydraulic brake systems and are suitable for a parking brake.
Trailers have electric brakes and are not.
It's not that something couldn't be devised, but the powers that decide didn't think it added enough to justify the cost.
Bigger wheel chocks are always an option.
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