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09-25-2021, 11:16 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2021 27' Globetrotter
Daytona Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2021
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Has Anyone Else Noticed..Dents Beside Front Storage Compartment
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09-25-2021, 11:36 AM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Nitzo,
Long shot. Those are your battery compartments correct?
If battery compartments physically remove one of the batteries from the compartment. Now go inside and find the compartment. Look under it, is the compartment supported from underneath or is there a gap between the compartment and its support under it.
Gary
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09-25-2021, 11:53 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 16' Sport
N/A
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Join Date: Nov 2017
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Question, does someone at the facility where you park position your trailer for parking or do you?
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09-25-2021, 11:56 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,655
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That is the beginning of front end separation. Search for that and you'll find plenty.
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09-25-2021, 12:01 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2021 27' Globetrotter
Daytona Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 357
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvr_Bullet
Question, does someone at the facility where you park position your trailer for parking or do you?
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I park it................That last photo is of it in the dealers lot. It came from the factory like that it seems.
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09-25-2021, 12:05 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2021 27' Globetrotter
Daytona Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 357
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GCinSC2
Nitzo,
Long shot. Those are your battery compartments correct?
Gary
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Gary, no, its just an empty storage compartment. It awkward to use, so I have almost nothing in it.
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09-25-2021, 12:08 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Hendersonville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,092
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It did not come from the factory that way. It happened during the drive from the factory to your dealer by the transport company. Your dealer should have caught this. It does look like the beginning of frame separation which is not common but does happen on the front bedroom models. A trip to Jackson Center is in order to get it properly repaired. They done more than a few.
Go to your dealer first with photo evidence and go from there. Good luck.
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09-25-2021, 12:13 PM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nitzo
Gary, no, its just an empty storage compartment. It awkward to use, so I have almost nothing in it.
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Long shot and it missed. Good luck.
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09-25-2021, 12:18 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
That is the beginning of front end separation. Search for that and you'll find plenty.
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YES
Poor design,(those doors, compartments whatever should be properly designed), accompanied by a poor delivery method, that could be made worse by an improper and overly stiff TV trailer lash-up.
Return it to the selling dealer and have it repaired ASAP!!!!! As in now
Bob
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09-25-2021, 01:01 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2021 27' Globetrotter
Daytona Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
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YES
Poor design,(those doors, compartments whatever should be properly designed), accompanied by a poor delivery method, that could be made worse by an improper and overly stiff TV trailer lash-up.
Return it to the selling dealer and have it repaired ASAP!!!!! As in now
Bob
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Well guys, not the news I wanted to hear, but needed to. This is why I love these forums, an issue like this could have easily been overlooked and down the road became a real problem, ya'll help a bunch.
As you know dealing with stealerships and factories is a real pain, but I'm not going to let it go. I just fired off the first e-mail to the dealer. We shall see.
Also, who is the inmate here that is the Airstream Rep.? I've seen some of his posts, but can't remember who he is. Thanks
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09-26-2021, 11:56 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2020 27' Globetrotter
2017 30' International
Sun City
, Arizona
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 144
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Since reading Ray Eklund’s post and yours, I’ve inspected my 2020 GT 27 FBT and I have the same dents, exact same location.
I have an appointment with JC, so I’ll just add this to the list. Of course they’ll fix it, and probably do a really good job, but this coupled with the myriad other quality control issues is increasingly tiresome and frustrating.
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09-26-2021, 12:08 PM
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:SPACE A" S/O 11 Air19745
2006 34' Classic S/O
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2007
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See "International Front Separation" post above. Same problem in early development.
guskmg
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09-26-2021, 12:13 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2021 27' Globetrotter
Daytona Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 357
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Maybe the mods can combine the two threads or get rid of mine. There is no reason to have two going about the same issue.
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09-26-2021, 12:25 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 27' Flying Cloud
Erie
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 128
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Just had mine repaired at JC. They gave me 3 options
1 remove entire front panel and install bracing
2 remove just compartment door leave dimple dent alone and install bracing
3 (not an option for me) tear into it from inside the trailer that way all new olympic rivet are not seen.
I went with #2 because my dimple/wrinkle cosmetically didn't bother me that much. I just wanted the structural bracing installed. Also I had to have two top corner segments replaced because the clear coating was peeling. I've been told Alcoa had a series of bad panels, poor coatings. As for the olympic rivet only I know where they are, JC did a good job. If any one else was to look at it they would have a hard time finding the panels they replaced. Time for option #1 is I'm told 2+ full days, option #2 a little less 2 days, either way I choose to leave mine for a week, that way they bring it in once and work on it till its done, no time loss making it ready to go back outside each night. I know not everyone is in the position to do that. There are several threads discussing and arguing about the cause, but some good info was exchange on a couple dealers out west that did professional repairs, search for those threads.
These pictures are not mine but some who shared their repair experience with me.
They helped me when the tech explained the 3 options and I could visualize what had to be done. Hope this helps.
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2018 FC27FBQ
2021 RAM 2500 Hemi 6.4
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09-26-2021, 12:30 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 27' Flying Cloud
Erie
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 128
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More than 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by nitzo
Maybe the mods can combine the two threads or get rid of mine. There is no reason to have two going about the same issue.
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All have different titles, references and terminology.
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2018 FC27FBQ
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09-26-2021, 12:52 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2021 27' Globetrotter
Daytona Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cptdzl
All have different titles, references and terminology.
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Ok...........
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09-26-2021, 01:01 PM
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Dragon
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Englewood
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 8
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Did they charge you?
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09-26-2021, 01:37 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 27' Flying Cloud
Erie
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 128
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Warranty
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimDarla
Did they charge you?
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I started reading about this in march and after washing the trailer I noticed a missing rivet on my front compartment and the dimples. (was traveling) Called JC beginning of april as my warranty would expire end of june the earliest they would take me was 3rd week august. 3 1/2 moths out???? I was told they would honor the warranty items which they did. In different conversations i've had they have at least one tech (probably more now) that's all they do is that repair, day in day out.
My trailer pictures attached.
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2018 FC27FBQ
2021 RAM 2500 Hemi 6.4
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09-26-2021, 01:47 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 27' Flying Cloud
Erie
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Apr 2019
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other discussion threads
Quote:
Originally Posted by nitzo
Ok...........
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https://www.airforums.com/forums/f23...-225389-2.html
https://www.airforums.com/forums/f48...is-226187.html
There is also discussions on one of the facebook groups, I don't remember but if I find it I can post it if anyone is interested.
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2018 FC27FBQ
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09-26-2021, 02:36 PM
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 5,720
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nitzo
......Also, who is the inmate here that is the Airstream Rep.? I've seen some of his posts, but can't remember who he is. Thanks
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I think this is the guy you're looking for. Good luck.
Jim
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