Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Airstream Forums > Airstream Restoration, Repair & Parts Forums > General Repair Forum
Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search Log in

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-02-2021, 08:24 PM   #1
1 Rivet Member
 
WT1J's Avatar
 
2018 27' Flying Cloud
2020 25' Flying Cloud
2021 30' Flying Cloud
Redmond , Washington
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 13
Grey and Black switched in a 2021 FC30FBO

Took delivery of a 2021 Flying Cloud 30FBO a few months ago. I have it on its first shakedown run. Dumped for the first time, and the black and grey tanks are switched.

Main equals Grey.
Auxiliary equals Black.

I only needed to dump the grey, so I pulled Aux and got black. Couldn't believe my eyes. Woohoo!! Thankfully there wasn't much in there, and the grey was full, so I could just wash it all away. Pure luck that the one time I'm only dumping grey, they switched it on a new airstream.

Anyone ever seen this? I'm a bit baffled by it. I'll compare it to my 2018FCFB that is parked alongside it, but I'm guessing they reversed the riveted labels on the levers?

Regards,

Mark.
__________________
2018 Flying Cloud 27FB
2020 Flying Cloud 25
2021 Flying Cloud 30FBO
WT1J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2021, 05:53 AM   #2
Rivet Master
 
BigSxyWhtGuy's Avatar
 
2018 30' Classic
Thousand Oaks , California
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 1,637
On our classic the main is on the left, closest to back tire. The aux - grey is in the right. It is possible that the plates need to be switched or that airstream did change it. I’d check with airstream or dealer for clarification on if it changed or if your tanks got swapped or if it’s just as simple as swapping the plates
__________________
BigSxyWhtGuy

Follow our adventures!
@airstreamvagabond on Instagram and YouTube
BigSxyWhtGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2021, 06:07 AM   #3
Rivet Master
 
bobmiller1's Avatar

 
2005 34' Classic S/O
2006 39' Land Yacht 396 XL
north blenheim , New York
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,847
That was a big problem about 5 years ago.......I believe they were smoking to much weed on the assembly line, or it was a disgruntled employee. Regards, Bob
bobmiller1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2021, 03:07 PM   #4
1 Rivet Member
 
WT1J's Avatar
 
2018 27' Flying Cloud
2020 25' Flying Cloud
2021 30' Flying Cloud
Redmond , Washington
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 13
I think they may be producing too fast. There were a few other minor oversights.
__________________
2018 Flying Cloud 27FB
2020 Flying Cloud 25
2021 Flying Cloud 30FBO
WT1J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2021, 10:22 PM   #5
Rivet Master
 
2016 30' International
redondo beach , California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 772
For bathroom duties use the kitchen sink. For cooking and washing dishes use the bathroom.
__________________
Randy and Beth 15 F250, 16 30' International, ProPride, Dexter 3" lift, Michelin 16, Dill TPMS, Centramatics, Battleborn x4, Victron BMV and 1.2KW inverter, Orion DC/DC, BlueSolar MPPT, 300W solar, Alpine iLX, Polk MM1, Samsung smart 42"
mythbuster88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2021, 02:28 AM   #6
4 Rivet Member
 
2021 27' Globetrotter
Daytona Beach , Florida
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 357
Quote:
Originally Posted by mythbuster88 View Post
For bathroom duties use the kitchen sink. For cooking and washing dishes use the bathroom.
nitzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2021, 06:16 AM   #7
Site Team
 
richard5933's Avatar

 
1994 25' Excella
Waukesha , Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 5,580
Images: 5
Curious that long after the industry switched to using the terms "black" and "gray" Airstream still uses "main" and "auxiliary" to label the tanks.

Can't say how many times I've had to stop and think which is which before pulling the handles. Looks like even the folks building the trailers can't keep it straight which is which, at least when it's time to put the labels on.
__________________
Richard
11018
1994 Excella 25 Follow the build on Gertie!
1999 Suburban LS 2500 w/7.4L V8
1974 GMC 4108a - Custom Coach Land Cruiser (Sold)
richard5933 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2021, 09:26 AM   #8
New Member
 
2020 25' Flying Cloud
Ottawa , ON
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 1
I made a couple of labels, "Grey" and "Black", and stuck them on the bracket next to the handles. Way more informative than "Main" and "Aux"!
Stonecraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2021, 09:51 AM   #9
3 Rivet Member
 
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Huntley , Illinois
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 202
Do the tanks diff in size? Could make a difference in volume for grey if empties into a smaller tank
cegardner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2021, 11:23 AM   #10
4 Rivet Member
 
1964 30' Sovereign
Ione , CA
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 250
At least the plumbing was attached to your tanks upstream and downstream. But that's just poor workmanship...wow.
__________________
Mark & Melanie Trowbridge
1964 Airstream Sovereign 30' (Double)
2004 Dodge Ram QuadCab 4x4 Diesel
Trowbridge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2021, 11:40 AM   #11
4 Rivet Member
 
greenflag's Avatar
 
2016 30' International
Quartz Hill , California
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 356
When I bought my 2016 the tanks were switched from my 2007.
I put a gray handle on the gray tank drain.
greenflag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2021, 03:26 PM   #12
3 Rivet Member
 
Rltports's Avatar
 
2015 25' Flying Cloud
Bettendorf , Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 130
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard5933 View Post
Curious that long after the industry switched to using the terms "black" and "gray" Airstream still uses "main" and "auxiliary" to label the tanks.

Can't say how many times I've had to stop and think which is which before pulling the handles. Looks like even the folks building the trailers can't keep it straight which is which, at least when it's time to put the labels on.
That’s interesting…. The handles on mine are black and gray for the correct valve. No labels. Seems strange they would change something that is simple and makes sense. BTW.. my FC is a 2015.
Rltports is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2021, 03:28 PM   #13
1 Rivet Member
 
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Gainesville , Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 11
You could check by running 20-25 gallons of water in the kitchen sink and looking at the gauges above the sink. Grey gauge should show more than half full. doubtful they reversed the tanks - likely just the labels. You definitely want the gauges to correspond with the proper tank.
DIDJA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2021, 05:35 PM   #14
On Comet
 
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Santee , California
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 22
Valve tag positions switched

I had a similar issue with my new 2017 Flying Cloud. The gray water drain handle was labeled as the black water tank and visa versa.


I contacted the factory and they sent me out replacement labels immediately and at no charge.
Silver Comet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2021, 03:51 AM   #15
3 Rivet Member
 
Colossus's Avatar
 
2022 30' Flying Cloud
2018 27' Tommy Bahama
2016 23' International
Currently Looking...
Peachtree City , Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 234
I second the question “does the tanks differ in size”? The answer to this question would definitely alter how I could use the trailer. Better to find out now before you’re out on the road.
Colossus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2021, 05:42 AM   #16
4 Rivet Member
 
fran&frank's Avatar
 
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Hartsburg , Missouri
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 465
Just for clarification and in response to some of the previous posts, what you are suggesting is the valves are labeled backwards, not that the tanks are actually connected wrong, correct? But you could verify this as described above.
__________________
Frank & Fran
2016 27' FC FB with 600 W solar
2016 Ford F150 EcoBoost
Equalizer Hitch
fran&frank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2021, 01:06 PM   #17
On Comet
 
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Santee , California
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 22
Hi Fran&Frank; in my case the valves were simply mis-labeled. (I had the trailer for a year before I noticed...)
Silver Comet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2021, 01:29 PM   #18
Rivet Master
 
Steamy1's Avatar
 
2015 23' FB International
2007 19' International CCD
Steamboat Springs , Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,020
The black water pipe (3.0") and gate valve is larger than the grey water pipe (1.5") and valve, at least it is on our 2015 23FB.
Steamy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2021, 09:58 AM   #19
Rivet Master
 
1988 32' Excella
Robbinsville , New Jersey
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,165
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colossus View Post
I second the question “does the tanks differ in size”? The answer to this question would definitely alter how I could use the trailer. Better to find out now before you’re out on the road.
In general black tank is smaller, how much varies with trailer size. From the ones I checked the newer 25' and larger trailers are close to the same (within 5 gallons), on the 23' the gray is close to double the size of the black.
Wazbro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2021, 07:42 PM   #20
3 Rivet Member
 
Colossus's Avatar
 
2022 30' Flying Cloud
2018 27' Tommy Bahama
2016 23' International
Currently Looking...
Peachtree City , Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 234
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wazbro View Post
In general black tank is smaller, how much varies with trailer size. From the ones I checked the newer 25' and larger trailers are close to the same (within 5 gallons), on the 23' the gray is close to double the size of the black.


5 gallons in size difference isn’t the end of the world. If I had the choice, I’d prefer the grey to be larger as it was designed. I remember when I had my 23’ the black and grey tanks were significantly different in size as you mentioned.
Colossus is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Just switched to two 6V batteries: amazing results Aolani Batteries, Univolts, Converters & Inverters 75 03-04-2019 10:38 AM
Sewage and WasteWater Labels Switched? Adventure.AS Waste Systems, Tanks & Totes 39 04-26-2017 10:37 PM
Replacing black/grey with a larger grey whitney Waste Systems, Tanks & Totes 11 05-08-2012 06:47 PM
Switched to a motorhome! 48-remi Member Introductions 2 02-01-2006 06:46 PM
Heat pump switched on in AC mode Pahaska Furnaces, Heaters, Fireplaces & Air Conditioning 11 05-22-2005 08:09 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.