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12-02-2021, 08:24 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2018 27' Flying Cloud
2020 25' Flying Cloud
2021 30' Flying Cloud
Redmond
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 13
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Grey and Black switched in a 2021 FC30FBO
Took delivery of a 2021 Flying Cloud 30FBO a few months ago. I have it on its first shakedown run. Dumped for the first time, and the black and grey tanks are switched.
Main equals Grey.
Auxiliary equals Black.
I only needed to dump the grey, so I pulled Aux and got black. Couldn't believe my eyes. Woohoo!! Thankfully there wasn't much in there, and the grey was full, so I could just wash it all away. Pure luck that the one time I'm only dumping grey, they switched it on a new airstream.
Anyone ever seen this? I'm a bit baffled by it. I'll compare it to my 2018FCFB that is parked alongside it, but I'm guessing they reversed the riveted labels on the levers?
Regards,
Mark.
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12-03-2021, 05:53 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 30' Classic
Thousand Oaks
, California
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 1,637
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On our classic the main is on the left, closest to back tire. The aux - grey is in the right. It is possible that the plates need to be switched or that airstream did change it. I’d check with airstream or dealer for clarification on if it changed or if your tanks got swapped or if it’s just as simple as swapping the plates
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12-03-2021, 06:07 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 34' Classic S/O
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That was a big problem about 5 years ago.......I believe they were smoking to much weed on the assembly line, or it was a disgruntled employee. Regards, Bob
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12-03-2021, 03:07 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2018 27' Flying Cloud
2020 25' Flying Cloud
2021 30' Flying Cloud
Redmond
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Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 13
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I think they may be producing too fast. There were a few other minor oversights.
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12-03-2021, 10:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 30' International
redondo beach
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
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For bathroom duties use the kitchen sink. For cooking and washing dishes use the bathroom.
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12-04-2021, 02:28 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2021 27' Globetrotter
Daytona Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 357
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mythbuster88
For bathroom duties use the kitchen sink. For cooking and washing dishes use the bathroom.
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12-04-2021, 06:16 AM
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Site Team
1994 25' Excella
Waukesha
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 5,580
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Curious that long after the industry switched to using the terms "black" and "gray" Airstream still uses "main" and "auxiliary" to label the tanks.
Can't say how many times I've had to stop and think which is which before pulling the handles. Looks like even the folks building the trailers can't keep it straight which is which, at least when it's time to put the labels on.
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12-04-2021, 09:26 AM
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New Member
2020 25' Flying Cloud
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: Apr 2021
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I made a couple of labels, "Grey" and "Black", and stuck them on the bracket next to the handles. Way more informative than "Main" and "Aux"!
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12-04-2021, 09:51 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Huntley
, Illinois
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 202
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Do the tanks diff in size? Could make a difference in volume for grey if empties into a smaller tank
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12-04-2021, 11:23 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1964 30' Sovereign
Ione
, CA
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 250
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At least the plumbing was attached to your tanks upstream and downstream. But that's just poor workmanship...wow.
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12-04-2021, 11:40 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 30' International
Quartz Hill
, California
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 356
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When I bought my 2016 the tanks were switched from my 2007.
I put a gray handle on the gray tank drain.
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12-04-2021, 03:26 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 25' Flying Cloud
Bettendorf
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 130
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richard5933
Curious that long after the industry switched to using the terms "black" and "gray" Airstream still uses "main" and "auxiliary" to label the tanks.
Can't say how many times I've had to stop and think which is which before pulling the handles. Looks like even the folks building the trailers can't keep it straight which is which, at least when it's time to put the labels on.
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That’s interesting…. The handles on mine are black and gray for the correct valve. No labels. Seems strange they would change something that is simple and makes sense. BTW.. my FC is a 2015.
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12-04-2021, 03:28 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Gainesville
, Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 11
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You could check by running 20-25 gallons of water in the kitchen sink and looking at the gauges above the sink. Grey gauge should show more than half full. doubtful they reversed the tanks - likely just the labels. You definitely want the gauges to correspond with the proper tank.
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12-04-2021, 05:35 PM
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On Comet
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Santee
, California
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 22
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Valve tag positions switched
I had a similar issue with my new 2017 Flying Cloud. The gray water drain handle was labeled as the black water tank and visa versa.
I contacted the factory and they sent me out replacement labels immediately and at no charge.
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12-05-2021, 03:51 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2022 30' Flying Cloud
2018 27' Tommy Bahama
2016 23' International
Currently Looking...
Peachtree City
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 234
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I second the question “does the tanks differ in size”? The answer to this question would definitely alter how I could use the trailer. Better to find out now before you’re out on the road.
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12-05-2021, 05:42 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Hartsburg
, Missouri
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 465
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Just for clarification and in response to some of the previous posts, what you are suggesting is the valves are labeled backwards, not that the tanks are actually connected wrong, correct? But you could verify this as described above.
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12-06-2021, 01:06 PM
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On Comet
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Santee
, California
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 22
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Hi Fran&Frank; in my case the valves were simply mis-labeled. (I had the trailer for a year before I noticed...)
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12-06-2021, 01:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' FB International
2007 19' International CCD
Steamboat Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,020
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The black water pipe (3.0") and gate valve is larger than the grey water pipe (1.5") and valve, at least it is on our 2015 23FB.
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12-08-2021, 09:58 AM
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Rivet Master
1988 32' Excella
Robbinsville
, New Jersey
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,165
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Colossus
I second the question “does the tanks differ in size”? The answer to this question would definitely alter how I could use the trailer. Better to find out now before you’re out on the road.
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In general black tank is smaller, how much varies with trailer size. From the ones I checked the newer 25' and larger trailers are close to the same (within 5 gallons), on the 23' the gray is close to double the size of the black.
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12-08-2021, 07:42 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2022 30' Flying Cloud
2018 27' Tommy Bahama
2016 23' International
Currently Looking...
Peachtree City
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 234
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wazbro
In general black tank is smaller, how much varies with trailer size. From the ones I checked the newer 25' and larger trailers are close to the same (within 5 gallons), on the 23' the gray is close to double the size of the black.
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5 gallons in size difference isn’t the end of the world. If I had the choice, I’d prefer the grey to be larger as it was designed. I remember when I had my 23’ the black and grey tanks were significantly different in size as you mentioned.
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