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06-26-2016, 01:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
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Good Grief!!! 1150 lbs of Tongue Weight???
Just weighed my tongue with my new Sherline Scale:
1150 lbs.
You've got to be kidding me, there is almost nothing in the front of the trailer.
Specs say it is supposed to be 885 lbs. with batteries and propane.
This is too much on my truck, I have a 2015 30' Flying Cloud Bunk.
What can be done?
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06-26-2016, 01:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted S.
Just weighed my tongue with my new Sherline Scale:
1150 lbs.
You've got to be kidding me, there is almost nothing in the front of the trailer.
Specs say it is supposed to be 885 lbs. with batteries and propane.
This is too much on my truck, I have a 2015 30' Flying Cloud Bunk.
What can be done?
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Remove one battery (40#) and one LP tank (50#), and tow with no water in the fresh tank, and don't put as much stuff under the bed in the front.
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06-26-2016, 01:57 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted S.
Just weighed my tongue with my new Sherline Scale:
1150 lbs.
You've got to be kidding me, there is almost nothing in the front of the trailer.
Specs say it is supposed to be 885 lbs. with batteries and propane.
This is too much on my truck, I have a 2015 30' Flying Cloud Bunk.
What can be done?
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(1) Calibrate the scale by weighing an already-known weight to see if the scale is accurate. Do this at least twice, with different weights.
(2) Shift portable trailer contents to a position behind the axles, the farther back, the better. Everything you add forward of the axles increases tongue weight, and the farther forward, the greater the effect.
(3) put the trailer spare in the tow vehicle to get it off the trailer.
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06-26-2016, 02:04 PM
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Rivet Puller
2003 28' Safari S/O
Atlanta Burbs
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Empty the wardrobes, too? ;-) Tell the bride the shoe collection has to stay behind? On second thought, it is probability safer to just upgrade from a 1500 to a 2500 HD.
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06-26-2016, 02:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
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You said NEW. Can we assume the trailer is empty and if not what are you carrying and where is it loaded?
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06-26-2016, 02:11 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Woodland
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You must have charged your batteries full up...
But seriously, I don't think anyone on this forum is going to be able to suggest a general repair to fix your tongue weight. You may want to post over on the Flying Cloud specific trailer forum:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f516/
They may not be able to solve your issue either, but at least they can sympathize with your plight and suggest alternatives.
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06-26-2016, 02:39 PM
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Overland Adventurer
1991 34' Excella
2009 34' Panamerica
Telluride
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Add ballast to the rear?
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06-26-2016, 02:47 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
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Join Date: May 2007
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Have all passengers ride on the AS bumper. Easy.
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06-26-2016, 02:48 PM
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It's too easy to overload a trailer by adding additional weight to the rear. Be careful. High tongue weights require real tv.
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06-26-2016, 02:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
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You're not using a weight ditribution hitch?
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06-26-2016, 02:54 PM
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2015 30' FB FC Bunk
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We are in-between trips. The trailer is barely loaded. I have a Propride, so that must be part of it.
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06-26-2016, 02:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted S.
We are in-between trips. The trailer is barely loaded. I have a Propride, so that must be part of it.
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The ProPride is roughly a couple hundred pounds, so that would be part of it.
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06-26-2016, 03:03 PM
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It also will distribute some of the weight.
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06-26-2016, 03:12 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1973 31' Sovereign
Middletown
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Crank up the WD bars a bit more and just be sure you don't exceed the tire rating of the rear axle. Maybe add air bags to boost rear spring capacity. Load the stuff from the truck bed to the rear of the trailer. That's about all you can do except get a bigger truck.
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06-26-2016, 03:24 PM
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Lost in America
2015 27' FB International
2006 25' Safari FB SE
2004 19' International CCD
Santa Fe
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Did you measure the weight at the tip of the pro-pride or from the jack post? Could be a difference of 200lbs +/- .
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06-26-2016, 03:51 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
Ayer
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I drive a Ford Excursion with a diesel. If that can't haul an Airstream, then I don't know what I'll do short of going to a 3/4 Ton pickup and then getting told I have too much truck.
Measurement was under the jack post on the scale.
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06-26-2016, 04:02 PM
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2002 30' Classic S/O
Fleming Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted S.
I drive a Ford Excursion with a diesel. If that can't haul an Airstream, then I don't know what I'll do short of going to a 3/4 Ton pickup and then getting told I have too much truck.
Measurement was under the jack post on the scale.
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Was the propride hanging off the trailer? If so, subtract 200 +/- pounds form 1150. 950 is a lot closer to the Airstream-specified wieght. The "tongue weight" is measured at the trailer coupler with no hitch attached. The "hitch weight" is the load imposed on the TV hitch by the trailer and any additional components, i.e. the WD hitch.
You will get a slightly lower number at the hitch coupler. In addition, the trailer needs to be level. If it is tongue down, that will increase the weight at the hitch.
Al
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06-26-2016, 04:17 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
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The weight of the ProPride will be nearly erased by the additional length of the ProPride hitch. As Mojo said and has done, the weight difference between the tongue jack post and the ProPride stinger at the truck receiver position is about 200 lbs on his combination.
You can expect about 950 lbs on the truck receiver before weight distribution and even less added to the truck's weight after. Our 2012 FC 25 (factory hitch weight spec 835 lbs) plus our ProPriode hitch plus our loaded Airstream and truck add 840 lbs to the truck after weight distribution, using the CAT scale weighing the truck alone, then with the Airstream hitched and weight distribution set.
Your diesel Excursion is overkill for pulling and weight carrying of your Airstream. Always load heavy stuff toward the center of the Airstream, light toward the ends, and do not overload the axles of your SUV. Hitch weight with the ProPride hitch is the least of your concerns, watch loading, handling, and braking of the truck.
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06-26-2016, 04:20 PM
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With a good WDH with the right bars, 1140 pounds of tongue weight is inconsequential imho.
Superat stultitia.
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06-26-2016, 04:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
Your diesel Excursion is overkill for pulling and weight carrying of your Airstream.
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My Excursion is over GVWR with the Airstream hitched per Cat scales and we spent the afternoon dialing it in. We have passengers, bikes and some gear in the truck but have dramatically reduced that.
I always scratch my head when told my truck is overkill and the cat scales say I am way WAY over GVWR.
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