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02-04-2016, 09:52 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2004 28' International CCD
Cocoa
, Florida
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 65
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Fresh water drain... Uh ohhh!!
Hello fellow streamers!!
I think I made a boo boo. My fresh water valve was broken and when I got it out, this is what I found. There is a tube inside of what looks like a protective "box" that covers both fresh and black water tanks. There is no slack in the tube, so I can't pull it out in order to hold it so I can get a grip on it and replace the valve. The valve is "barbed" and requires some amount of pressure to install. I have a feeling I'm going to end up dropping this "box" in order to get to the tube, unless someone has any ideas on a easier way..
I hope you all have a FANTASTIC weekend!!
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02-04-2016, 10:00 AM
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Rivet Master
1986 31' Sovereign
Miami
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,137
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Well, the other end of that tube attaches to the fresh water tank. I can access mine under the floor of my closet. Obviously, yours may be different but I would bet that there is some access to that end of the tank from inside your rig. Usually, the water pump is in the same spot and, on mine, so are the tank sensors.
You may have to poke around a bit, maybe even remove a panel or two but you should be able to find it.
Mike
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02-04-2016, 10:02 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Ditto what Mike said....
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02-04-2016, 10:05 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' Classic
2017 30' Classic
Summerville
, South Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 188
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Look under the trailer to see if there is an access cover to connect the new valve. If not you will have to cut an access hole and cover it with some sheet metal. You may be able to work it form the inside if there is an access from the inside.
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02-04-2016, 10:49 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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I know mine will probably break soon. I have no access from above so I'll have to take the cutting wheel to the plastic water tank cover.
I suppose if just the handle breaks but its not leaking a pair of pliers should be able to turn it on/off. Everything in my AS that requires maintenance requires major work to access.
Kelvin
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02-04-2016, 10:53 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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I bought one of the aluminum replacement valves and keep it in my "road parts bag", but since lubing the plastic one with food grade silicone, it works smoothly and probably won't break. At least for a long time.
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02-04-2016, 11:06 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2011 27 FB International
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 258
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
since lubing the plastic one with food grade silicone, it works smoothly and probably won't break. At least for a long time.
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How 'bout a quick course on how you lube it?
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02-04-2016, 11:08 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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I just hit the seam between the body of the spigot and the "turny" part (technical term), worked it back and forth and repeated several times. That was about 5 years ago. Still works smoothly.
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02-04-2016, 11:28 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Wheaton
, Illinois
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
...but since lubing the plastic one with food grade silicone, it works smothly...
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Food grade silicone lube - can you recommend one? Where to purchase?
Greg
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02-04-2016, 11:31 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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https://www.waresdirect.com/products...Jt8aAqvB8P8HAQ
This is just the first one I came across. Google for more...and I bet it is available locally.
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02-04-2016, 11:32 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
jackson center
, Ohio
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 159
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02-04-2016, 11:53 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' Classic
2017 30' Classic
Summerville
, South Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 188
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Rich,
Do you have link for the aluminum valve?
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02-04-2016, 11:54 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Last time I looked, they were out of stock...let me check.
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02-04-2016, 11:56 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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02-04-2016, 11:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Looks like you have to go to the big box for the valve...and price has gone up, but they are great quality. This is for the flange only.
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02-04-2016, 01:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 23' FB International
Woodstock
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,427
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Ditto the idea to cut an access hole.
Cover it with sheet metal or plastic screwed to the original pan. Careful not to use long screws that could puncture the plastic tank.
You may have to McGiver the connection to the tank if you need to cut out a piece of piping. I remember using a bit of plastic tubing and hose clamps to reconnect the new pipe to the stub on the tank. My new valve was a 1/2" brass ball valve that I mounted closer to the wheels where I could get at it without laying on my back under the trailer. I used U-brackets to hold the new valve and pipe in place.
JCW
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02-04-2016, 03:41 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1994 34' Limited
colebrook
, Connecticut
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 63
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the lubricant is the same as dielectric grease available in auto parts stores. i had the same problem. i moved the drain valve past the rear tire so it was easier to access.
i added an elbow at the tank ran the pex line down the frame and added a quarter turn ball valve at the end. used plenty of clamps especially on each side of the valve to support when open and closing.
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02-04-2016, 04:57 PM
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coloradopete
1988 25' Excella
Montrose
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 28
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Fresh water valve sticking
My fresh water drain valve became very hard to open and close. I opened the valve, laid on the ground for access to the opening, and sprayed PAM food spray into it. Worked the handle back and forth a few times and that did it. Nice and free.
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02-04-2016, 05:18 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1973 31' Sovereign
Middletown
, California
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 424
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Maybe you could heat the tubing with a hair dryer or hot water to soften it enough to push the new valve in? If that doesn't work and you can't find other access then it's cut and patch. In situations like this I always ask myself "how did they put this together when it was made?" and that usually leads me to the way to do it.
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02-04-2016, 05:35 PM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,418
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Mine had small hose clamps at the barb fitting at the valve end AND tank end. Fortunately someone had cut an access but it was still difficult with my large hands. BUT it was doable. The old hose had no stretch to it so I carefully slit it with a utility knife at the tank end and replaced it. I now carry a spare length of hose and new valve just in case it ever happens while on the road. Hardest part is getting the trailer high enough to work under it.
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