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Old 09-06-2018, 07:21 PM   #21
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I went to close my black tank and could not do so. I bought a dozen liters of coca-cola and put it in my black tank. No good. Took it to my AS dealer and they pulled it apart to find a piece of yellow wire about fourteen inches long in the gate.

We then had a rather disputatious conversation about payment. I refused to pay as I donít excrete yellow wire in my daily ablutions. AS eventually did the right thing...

But I continue to wonder what else is in my tanks.
Thankfully; Airstream is not located in Louisiana. Or we would be seeing Alligators in some of those black tanks.😆😆😆
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Old 09-09-2018, 06:09 PM   #22
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Tell me about it...I couldn't agree more about the bad work habits.


I found a balled up McDonald's wrapper in my front umbilical poke through when I took the wooden cover panel off to add a subwoofer. If they can't be bothered to throw out a paper wrapper, or dispose of short waste cables properly, just think of what the heck might be floating around your rig that you don't know about.
What is the average salary of the men and women who build our Airstreams? Do they have full benefits, medical, dental, a retirement plan, etc? I find that bad morale often creates these kinds of problems in manufacturing. When people make minimum wage or barely above building items only the rich can afford, things they haven’t a prayer of ever owning, they do stuff like this. I may not approve, but as a person who was poor for the first 50 years of life, I completely understand. Until they at least feel valued by the owners of the company, expect it to continue.
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:55 PM   #23
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What is the average salary of the men and women who build our Airstreams? Do they have full benefits, medical, dental, a retirement plan, etc? I find that bad morale often creates these kinds of problems in manufacturing. When people make minimum wage or barely above building items only the rich can afford, things they havenít a prayer of ever owning, they do stuff like this. I may not approve, but as a person who was poor for the first 50 years of life, I completely understand. Until they at least feel valued by the owners of the company, expect it to continue.

Thanx for the Thank you message. I just try to help where I can.


BTW - I like your avatar pic too!


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Old 09-10-2018, 11:16 PM   #24
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That was junk from during construction... surely not by disgruntled worker..

When cars were built by people, a friend had a MERCURY sedan.. nice car. When you turned to the left there was a thumping in the rear curb side trunk area..

The dealer worked on it for several days.. suspension, differential, motor mounts, etc..

The Body guy was walking through, overheard the discussion... walked to the car, opened the trunk, reached up inside under the rear roof pillar and pulled out a Coke bottle (remember those).. it was tied with some string and just dangled like a pendulum, moving back and forth.. occasionally hitting something metal (remember cars like that)...

Inside the bottle was a note... "Took you a while to find this, didn't it?"
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Old 09-12-2018, 11:52 AM   #25
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Interesting. I have spent more time recently doing multiple washes of my black tank. Empty and then refill to 50% with wash water, then dump. I do this at least 3 times and have been amazed at how much solid waste and tp comes out in the 3rd or 4th wash. Clear 90 fitting is an absolute must.
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Old 09-12-2018, 01:20 PM   #26
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I did check online. Airstream employees appear to earn an average $19.25 according to State of Ohio. That's far above the $8.50 minimum wage. Specifically: Airstream plumbers average salary appears to be $25.95 and average $28.60 for Electrical Design/installers. Aluminum metal fabricators make average $34.15 per hour. I assume metal fabricators assemble the inner and outer skin of the Airstream Trailer.

You can also check here:

https://www.payscale.com/research/US...am/Hourly_Rate

Therefore, the occasional sloppy cleanup must be mainly do to the fast and rapid pace of the Airstream assembly floor, and a few select workers who cut corners and dump debris in black tanks and other areas of the trailer.
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Old 09-12-2018, 01:56 PM   #27
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If you are in Ohio, go to Jackson Center and take the factory tour. It's quite impressive. Nice people doing a great job. Surely some things get missed. I know when I am doing projects on my trailer, it's hard to prevent dropped screws, clipped wires and sawdust from going into places you cannot get to.
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Old 09-12-2018, 03:45 PM   #28
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If you are in Ohio, go to Jackson Center and take the factory tour. It's quite impressive. Nice people doing a great job. Surely some things get missed. I know when I am doing projects on my trailer, it's hard to prevent dropped screws, clipped wires and sawdust from going into places you cannot get to.
Yup... when we pulled up our original carpet... it was a time capsule... whooooda thought they actually smoked while working inside...

Roger Miller's son... sounds a lot like his Pop...
https://youtu.be/UCR0_wgvGLU

"....Old stogies..." Yeah.. found one of those, too.. Just imagine your partially built AS with Roger Miller sitting outside the door singing this...
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Old 09-12-2018, 03:58 PM   #29
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Here is the black and grey piping structure contained within the belly pan on my 2003 28' Safari. The white elements are the valves. The long radius turn, ABS DWV pipe segment empties the black tank. I suspect this design is quite similar to most units.
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Probably got accidently kicked in before toilet was mounted.

Coke cans, rags, wire, tools, birds, bird nests, paper, metal scrap are some of the things that are flushed out of building hydronics systems during commissioning. It happens.
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