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Old 10-30-2020, 12:35 PM   #1
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Electrical hookup at home

We have had our airstream for about a year and want to be able to Hook it up to electric on our lot. Do we go through the city or hire an electrician?
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Old 10-30-2020, 12:42 PM   #2
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Most likely you will need a permit from the city. If you don't know how it would be best to hire a electrician. Your electrician would know your requirements in your area.


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Old 10-30-2020, 01:51 PM   #3
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Are you wanting to use it in the driveway or just keep batteries charged? We just step down our 50a to a standard outlet size to keep batteries topped off when we head to our home base (my parents house). Outlet is close.

Just something to think about in case you get with your electrician and your box doesnít have enough juice for an added 30a or 50a service.
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Old 10-30-2020, 03:41 PM   #4
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Just call your city permit office and ask if you need a permit to add a 30amp service plug and breaker to your house. Also check your main breaker box to see if you have room for a breaker to added.

I added a 30amp breaker and plug to our house the first week we were in the house. Our city didnít require a permit for this job. We had plenty of space in the main breaker box to add a 30amp breaker.
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Old 10-30-2020, 04:05 PM   #5
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I wouldn’t think it would be that much different from adding an outlet for an electric car. I had an electrician install a 240V, 50A outlet in my garage for an EV. No permit was required and the installation was quick and easy.

When The Airstream Is parked in my driveway, I plug into a 120V, 20A standard outdoor outlet. This keeps my batteries charged and I can run everything except the air conditioning/heat pump.
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Old 10-30-2020, 04:11 PM   #6
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I also park our Airstream in the driveway,

We have a weather proof 30A outside. It is wired into an inside 20A socket

it keeps the AS alive over winter. The biggest load is a 1200w heater it is only on when we go inside to do some work during the winter. It uses less that 11A. No Ac needed in the winter

Otherwise the AS stays cold is goes below -30C up north here

as well i
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Old 10-30-2020, 05:39 PM   #7
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Here in the Phoenix area, electric power panels are mounted externally, usually on a garage wall, and near to the driveway. I mounted a 30 amp RV outlet box below the panel at one location and a 50 amp RV outlet box at another location in the same manner. Since the plug is below the breaker panel, the breaker serves as a disconnect for that circuit. We lock the panels because of kids and turn the breaker for the RV off when not in use.
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Old 10-31-2020, 10:59 AM   #8
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I put a box on the outside of my house similar to this one. It has a 30 amp and a 20 amp.

https://www.amazon.com/Connecticut-E...4159672&sr=8-3
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We have a dedicated 30 amp outlet for Lucy who is parked in our driveway behind the house. Our 30 amp outlet is just inside the garage door. We run Lucy shore power cable under the door to plug her in. This way the the outlet is not exposed to the weather and our surge protector unit is secured at night.

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Old 10-31-2020, 01:09 PM   #10
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You will want to start with an electrical contractor in the area. Oregon an Salem will want the permit. A home owner can do work on their house but a permit is still required. Permits require description of work and a final inspection. I'd look for a couple of electrical contractors in the area doing residential work. Get a couple of bids. Outdoor branch circuits have requirements such as GFCI. Hardwiring a 30 amp receptacle on a 20 amp circuit violates the NEC (National Electric Code). Always good to play by the rules for insurance and safety.
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Additional thought - The greater expense will likely be labor over materials so possibly not much savings going with a small amperage circuit unless your breaker panel limits you. Distance from the panel is important to consider for wire size to avoid voltage drop. You may want to fully load the circuit someday. Will you ever want a 50 amp in the future? You might consider requesting bids for both 30 and 50. Hope this helps.
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Old 10-31-2020, 03:17 PM   #12
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We have had our airstream for about a year and want to be able to Hook it up to electric on our lot. Do we go through the city or hire an electrician?
In any case, if you don't know how to do it yourself, a qualified person is required. Who is qualified is a choice you have to make. National code and your state's electric code requires and common sense dictates it should be done by a qualified person. (you don't want to burn down or damage the house or trailer ;-)

If you live in town, or inside the town's zoning district, or in a county that requires it, a permit is required by law. However, many things like this are done illegally, without a permit. You are responsible for the work if your qualified person does not get the required permit and have the work inspected.

If the work is not permitted properly and there is a big problem, like a fire, you might find your homeowner insurance will not pay for that damage.
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I had a 50 amp circuit added when we had some electrical work down to add AC to our house. I am very handy but this was not something I wanted to tackle myself.
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Old 10-31-2020, 04:17 PM   #14
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We had an electrician come out and add a slot into the main.

$300 and an hours work on his end and we have 30 amp to the trailer.
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Old 10-31-2020, 05:58 PM   #15
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I bought a GE box at Home Depot that is made for RVs It came with a 50 amp. 30 amp and a 20 amp breaker and is pre-wired. It also has an empty for another breaker with a knockout. I park my trailer under an awning next to my barn. I buried a conduit in a Shallow trench I hand dug out to the trailer parking place and ran 4 wires along with a coax wire for cable TV. Put a 50 Amp breaker in the same box with my outdoor heat pump that had a empty breaker space. My trailer is only a 30 amp and the ore wired box breaks the 220 down to 120 so the 30 amp plug is good to go. I keep my trailer plugged in to the 20 amp plug on a timer for the batteries that comes on for 30 mins in the morning and 30 mins in the evening to keep the batteries charges. That plug is GFI. Also grounded the box by driving a copper in the ground at the site so the fault would have to travel all the way back to the house. I used the empty in the box for some lighting in the shed in case I need to be in there after dark. I bought a 500 foot roll of #6 wire and taped the ends of the 4 wires red, black, white and green so I knew both ends for wiring prior to pulling them in the conduit. No permit required as long as I used a licensed electrician. My next door neighbor is an IBEW electrician. I did all the work and he came over and checked and approved it.
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Are you wanting to use it in the driveway or just keep batteries charged? We just step down our 50a to a standard outlet size to keep batteries topped off when we head to our home base (my parents house). Outlet is close.

Just something to think about in case you get with your electrician and your box doesnít have enough juice for an added 30a or 50a service.
We do much the same. Our closest outlet is a standard outdoor plug on our guest house, about 100 feet from our trailer port. I run a 30 amp extension cord to plug into the 30 amp trailer cord. Only used to run a small space heater if extended freezing weather is forecast, which is unusual in our area.
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I have a 20 amp outlet next to the pad on the side of the house. Plenty of power for my trailer when parked.
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All I ever use is a 30<>15 adapter and plug them into a regular extension cord. I have my cabin cruiser, and RV hooked this way. Thinking about it, they might be on the same 15a breaker... Never been a problem, but I should check and seperate them.

But, I'm only keeping batteries topped up and a small fan. I never heat my unit, my best friend is a master tech for winibago and sees 5-6 burned units every year from safety's failing on the small heaters.
I do occasionally run a fan in my boat, it seems to condensate more, an Airstream might be similar.
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I’m living in a friend’s backyard in the Californian High Desert and have been plugged into his 20A garage outlet all summer, running my AC and everything else. I have the EasyStart installed in my AC, using the 30A trailer cord with an adaptor at the outlet.
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Thank you

Thank everyone so much for the valuable information. Time to hire an electrician!
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