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Old 11-29-2018, 04:10 PM   #1
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Dinette change

Any suggestions on how to make the seating more comfortable in our 2017 27 ft flying cloud? We want to remove the factory table and built in seating, replacing them with two swivel chairs and a custom table (I can build the table). Anyone have a suggestion on the chairs? Recliners would be best. Our dealer warned me about some wiring that will be exposed in the corner away from the door. Can I just build a cover over them? I assume I can’t remove the seating over the furnace, and I would like to keep the bed functional for grandkids anyway. Thanks for your suggestions
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Old 11-29-2018, 04:14 PM   #2
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:51 AM   #3
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Several good mods discussed in this forum if you search. I also want to do exactly the same, but was hoping to have someone else actually do the work; but inquiry to a few places showed change was > $10K. Hoping somebody responds with lower cost options (I would try to do it myself, but my wife doesn't trust me - he ha (maybe she knows me too well).
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Here's one approach. Your layout may be different.

Phil: We have an Eddie Bauer (which automatically means front bedroom and foldable seating in the dinette to accommodate access through the rear hatch). I'm not familiar with how a flying cloud dinette is constructed and what you've got when it's removed.

Facing the same concerns you described, I removed the two side benches and the long couch. There is nothing unexpected, unusual or hidden about that on the EB. You will need an offset, Phillips screwdriver. What's left in our trailer after doing that includes a factory-built box with vents around the furnace.

Starting from the stripped-down living area of the trailer, I built: 1.) a box with a hinged lid to form storage and a small couch over the box that encloses the furnace; 2.) a platform to sit on the floor and which includes two steel pins onto which slide the inside front legs of two recliners I purchased from Wayfair and 3.) a small maple tabletop that fits onto one of the two support legs that would normally support the dinette table. Total cost under $1,000 including custom cushions in Eddie Bauer sunbrella for the new, short couch. I did the design and fabrication myself.

The chairs pivot on the posts. With the small table stowed (in the hall wardrobe), they align in the center and offer us full access through the main door. To live in the trailer and have the chairs fully recline, they pivot on the pins and hit stops that allow them to each fold out into the corners of the trailer. In that position there is also room for the table between the chairs.

I found that most recliners were too large to fit in the available space. The ones I bought are considered "small" or "compact". You may find that "wall hugging" recliners are a good choice for your situation since they slide forward as they recline. I chose not to get swiveling chairs due to the risk of damaging the chairs or the interior walls of the trailer. Again... your needs and configuration may guide you to choose swiveling chairs. The EB has a framework around the hatch that other models don't have. I had to work around that.

Here's a link to the pics in my gallery on AirForums. If the link doesn't work, you can navigate there in a click or two from my profile, then gallery and look for a picture description that includes "recliners".

http://www.airforums.com/photos/show...8629&catid=508

We kept the full, original interior. Depending on the trip plans, we install the original layout, two recliners, one recliner and full couch (for a grandkid sleeping space) or no recliners (for hurricane evacuation with dog kennels and max storage space).

If it helps you, I'll try to find the precise model of recliner I used. It was 3-4 years ago and Wayfair may or may not still sell them.
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Old 11-30-2018, 12:57 PM   #5
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Old 11-30-2018, 01:26 PM   #6
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If it was me, I would go to one of the Lazy-Boy factories. There are a few, one in Virginia, one in Tennessee. They can and will make custom chairs to your specifications. Worth at least a phone call, and perhaps a road trip to their parking lot, and hash out ideas.
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Old 11-30-2018, 01:48 PM   #7
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That's why we went away from the 25 and 27' models and moved to the 28'; we didn't like the dinette/lounge set up., especially for watching TV. The 26' has a nice U-shaped seating area, but wife thinks the hallway with the bathroom door colliding with refer door was just too "Closter-phobic" and tight for her... (I didn't say that, did I!)

Our number one desire would be the couch/lounge that is in the 30' Classic, but it costs $9K alone and will not work with our 28' due to the waterheater location. Note in the pictures, the 2 lounge chairs have the waterheater covered with a microwave/drawer cabinet over it; 30' does not have the waterheater located there, so the lounge/couch they have works well...and is it ever comfortable! (see picture of it in the Cashew color)

Few options; DIY of course, can be intimidating. I'm sure you know about Airstream Adventures Custom shop in Oregon/Wa area? Expensive but they have done a lot of impressive work. I show the U lounge option with the 6 drawer working surface below in first picture; very functional and will work in 25 or 27. Second pictures are of the 2 lounge chair set up from Airstream Adventures catalog done in a 28'; I don't like the lounge chairs with separate ottoman's...I would rather a couch that reclines. I also looked at Lambright website which has several nice furniture options: http://www.lambrightcomfortchairs.com/ This might be a great way to go if you DYI...lots of nice furniture for RV's that you can also anchor down.
My concern was matching the fabric in our 28' if we go to reclining couch or chairs, with the dinette seating fabric...anyway, good luck and please post pictures when you decide.
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