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Old 01-17-2018, 08:32 AM   #1
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Delamination under shower 2018 FC 30rbt

Bummer. Only one week camping and the laminate under the shower is buckling. Wife and I havenít been on full hookups so have been taking navy showers. We have never seen water on the floor. This happened yesterday and this morning I noticed some amber water on the shower floor. Maybe glue is leaking out? Anyone else have this?
Btw, itís been cold so heat has been on. I think that the duct runs right along this area so maybe heat is to blame? Click image for larger version

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Old 01-17-2018, 10:07 AM   #2
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Given the model year, youíre probably under warranty. Have your dealer take a look.
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Old 01-17-2018, 10:20 AM   #3
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That is a very common area for shower water to escape the lower seal and run down th face. IMO, it has nothing to do with heat and/or condensation. Poor door design.
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Old 01-17-2018, 10:26 AM   #4
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I noticed a stain in the same area in my 2002 Classic purchased in 2014. It is wood, so no delamination, but I took a look at the shower door design and it looked like there was a path for water to escape. I ran some beads of silicone around the hinge pin to keep the water confined. So far, no more leaks.

In your case, get the delamination fixed under warranty and see that they do something to prevent leaks in the future.

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Old 01-17-2018, 10:31 AM   #5
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Bummer, when I got my 2017 I saw some water from the shower running down that verticle face in your photo and onto the floor. I was never able to tell for sure where it came from, but I suspect when the door frame was assembled it was not appropriately sealed where the vertical frame pieces meet the threshold and water leaks off the outer edges of the threshold then finds a route downhill. That route probably varies from trailer ro trailer. in your case it may have soaked the trim piece, causing the delamination. I decided to trying using clear silicone aquarium caulk to seal up both ends of the threshold which seems to have worked. The only water I get now seems to come over the threshold when I open the door to get out of the shower which we quickly clean up. BTW, if you open up the panels under the closet you can get a partial look under the shower. Check that out to see if you see any water from that perspective. Good luck with your troubleshooting!
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Old 01-17-2018, 10:37 AM   #6
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Hi sb55,

We're sorry to learn about the issue you described in your 2018 30' Flying Cloud. Please call our customer service and technical support team at*1 (877) 596-6111, option 2 so we can learn more and help.

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Old 01-17-2018, 10:38 AM   #7
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Delamination under shower 2018 FC 30rbt

I had the same problem (minus the delimitation).

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f44/...er-172797.html

After very careful inspection of the shower framing I took it upon myself to fix the issue myself.

The root cause (I had to dismantle the shower frame on my 2017 to determine root cause) is that airstream do not adequately seal the frame, the sil / threshold and the various joints.

The discharge you see in your shower will turn dark brown soon in is actually rust which you will see in my pictures - which comes from a small screw behind the frame that holds down the sil to the plywood framing.

Water gets behind the frame on the sil at the bottom corner of the door and can then leak out damaging the plywood that the aluminum sil sits on (you are seeing the effects of this as a delimitation problem).

The solution is a lot of clear silicon caulk.

I re-calked both sides of the shower frame/fiberglass and frame/sil junction from the outside. I then removed the lower screw in the framing (accessible from inside the shower, pictured just above my finger in the attached picture) that holds the door to the frame. I then injected A LOT of silicon own into the frame structure, allowing it to accumulate inside the frame at the bottom, further sealing the area from the inside.

Below is a picture of the silicon product you will want to use. I chose the clear version (one in the photo is white). Available at Home Depot. I have photos of the repair and somewhere... I will try to find them for you.

I did not trust the dealer to perform this repair to the quality / level of satisfaction I was looking for.

In the end it took me about 4 hours to take things apart, find the problem, determine the solution, re-assemble and then caulk the framing.
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Old 01-18-2018, 06:35 AM   #8
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This situation happened to me. I scheduled appointment at Jackson Center. The shower bottom tray is NOT tilted at an angle for water to go back inside shower. So, water is soaking inside the wall. JC replaced the ENTIRE front wall, new shower door! All done under warranty........ no leak since. Don't bother trying to caulk....... it won't work.
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Old 01-18-2018, 04:55 PM   #9
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Sorry to hear of your shower troubles in your new trailer. But glad to see the post on this subject. Have experienced similar leaks in both our 25' FB and our 2017 RB 30' FC. Have not observed leaks on the inside of the shower as in the pictures, but on the outside of the shower. No delamination in either AS. Like others I assumed that it was from opening and closing the shower door after a shower. On the 25' I replaced the seal at the bottom of the shower door with a heavier duty silicone wiper seal and overlapped the door hinge at the end. That seemed to fix it. The 30' shower door I will have to look closely in the area to see where the leak is coming from and will report back later.
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Old 02-12-2018, 05:09 PM   #10
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Keep the water in the shower

I found that caulking was not the answer, too much movement and expansion and contraction in a travel trailer. The water that hits the shower door just lands on the threshold and the corners always leak. I just installed a shower door gutter and that solved the problem. All the water that hits the door lands in the gutter and the gutter drains into the shower not on the threshold.
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Old 02-12-2018, 05:32 PM   #11
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Our dealer also installed a shower gutter, but it's under the door, not on the door, also drains back into the shower.


Clever tech adapted exterior trim molding for interior use. Haven't used the shower since the work was done, am hopeful that it'll head off problems caused by the wall getting wet beneath the door.
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Old 09-26-2020, 07:25 PM   #12
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shower door gutter

where can the gutter in the picture be purchased. thanks jack
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Old 09-26-2020, 09:43 PM   #13
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This is why my next project will be to install a Nautilus shower door that retracts. I’ve never liked the AS shower door.
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