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Rivet Master 
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Oregon Buttes
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21 Common Problems with Airstream 'Campers'
These were written by Morten Storgaard for RV Living as '21 Common Problems with Airstream Trailers'. (April 14, 2021)
- Corrosion
- Rivets
- Leaks
- Dents
- Scratches
- Difficult to Find Replacement Parts
- Difficult to Repair the Exterior
- Poor Performance in Cold Weather
- Poor Battery Performance
- Combined Waste Water Tanks
- High Maintenance
- Floor Rot
- Faulty Window Opening Latches
- Potentially Dangerous Electrical Systems
- Poor Off Road Capabilities
- Sharp Metal Edges
- Walls too Cold or too Hot
- High Price Tags
- Talkative People
- Quality Control Issues in Past Years
- Tough to Mount Items on the Roof
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'Go Downsize' also has comments on the Internet.
'nijacar.com' also has comments on the Internet for 2006 to 2009 models.
'www.coachspecialists.com/blog/common problems with Airstream Trailer
'wwwyoutube.com' has Troubleshooting Common Airstream Problems
'campergrid.com/reasons not to buy airstream'
'www.motorbiscuit.com/the most common Airstream Complaints
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Reviewing the original list of 21 common problems with Airstreams... I get the impression the author looked at unrestored original condition 25 to 40 year old Airstreams and made a list of these trailers as they remained, while left in a field. No mention of... Tires, either.
I find the 'outsider impressions' about Airstreams are not very accurate once an experienced Airstream owners reviews each point being made. Even those of us who tinker on our Airstreams will find MANY Reviews that are not accurate, nor common problems with any Airstream.
What may you discovered on the Internet that concern Airstreams, positive or negative? Others do read these articles. Maybe more Airstream Owners need to get their message out.
I only reviewed the first from RV Living. The others... you may want to comment.
Yes... there are days that discovering many authors have no clue what they may be reporting. Obviously, few if any of these authors, ever owned an Airstream.
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10-15-2022, 10:42 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
Currently Looking...
Celina
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2020
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Ray I applaud your resourcefulness. Isn’t your list applicable to every trailer, fifth wheel, motor home, tent camper ever made or going to be made?
Our forum friends do a great job of addressing and finding solutions to what you have compiled.
Keep up the good work!
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10-15-2022, 10:57 AM
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Rivet Master 
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Oregon Buttes
, Wyoming
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,949
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Gene... I am not surprised that Airstream is a target. I was just more interested in the list of 'problems'. Denegrate the "King of Travel Trailers' and the Oliver 'Queen of Travel Trailers' in my Neanderthal opinion to make the SOB's look... better?
I do agree with Price... but when an owner wants to sell, their resale value is also high. Unlike most SOB's. Expensive watches are no different. Price is relative value to what something else may be worth today or tomorrow.
Airstreams have excellent resale potential, any year or model or length. I sense some 'used price inflation' is now coming to the used Airstream market. The Oliver travel trailers also are on their way... up.
We did buy a 2019 Oliver Elite and it is also an excellent Trailer. I was considering selling the 2019 27 International FBQ, at first,... and then reconsidered. Why sell the Airstream?
I can use the Oliver for Off the Grid Boondocking... and the Airstream for Off the Grid Boondocking when wanting more space to sit back and.... ahhhhhh.
Tow Vehicles... We looked at 2022 F250 and F350 Fords this week. Not impressed with the capacity of new models... I need to look at the numbers again... I need reading glasses for the 'small print'. The 2016 F350 diesel 4x4 has 50% more capacity than a 2022. (?) Looking again Tuesday to be sure.
Keeping our 2016 F350 Diesel. It also pulls the 7,000 pound Oliver and the
slightly heavier 27 foot International... just perfect. Just could not let the Airstream go... too much tweaking done and may have to write some articles for these magazines to add an experienced owner's opinion.
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10-15-2022, 01:45 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
2008 16' International CCD
kamloops
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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my hubby and i like the rivets. for the very reason that you can replace them. in the sob's with full on wall paper you would never know what is shaking loose. occasionally i've seen a sob toppled over on the side of the road and it looks like matchsticks and broom sweepings.
i'm only familiar with our trailer but isn't the combined tank nice as it cleans and flushes out easily (solid matter being mixed and less solid due to the added liquids from other sources).
maintenance...well our girl has been sadly neglected for several years now and the honey do list is not endless by any means.
sharp metal edges...not found any yet and my windows open okay...for the first time in 14yrs i've put a bit of grease on the edges and tucked a pan scraper in the drawer for future use instead of a butter knife.
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10-15-2022, 02:16 PM
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Site Team

1994 25' Excella
Waukesha
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Join Date: Sep 2020
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Some of the things on that list are features, not problems. And nearly all of them apply to every trailer, as has been mentioned. Seems like click bait to me.
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1994 Excella 25 'Gertie' Follow the build on Gertie!
1999 Suburban LS 2500 w/7.4L V8 'Bert'
1974 GMC 4108a - Custom Coach Land Cruiser 'The Bus' (Sold)
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10-16-2022, 09:37 AM
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2 Rivet Member 
2022 25' International
Tumwater
, Washington
Join Date: Mar 2020
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Latches and screws
Have 2019 23’ flying cloud. Biggest problem so far are poorly anchored door latches and pulls. The under sink hinges are in locations so confined that simply tightening a screw is a contortionists nightmare. Door pulls on articulating bathroom door are screwed into wood rather than anchored from both sides. Clearly, these problems are preventable with a bit of design ingenuity.
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10-16-2022, 10:10 AM
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Rivet Master 
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Oregon Buttes
, Wyoming
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Misinformation by those who know the Least
R V Living? Getting close to becoming RVLife?
I suspect that, if not ALL, but MOST of those who write to fill pages for pay on many sites or magazines have never owned a Travel Trailer. Maybe a Mobile Home or Manufactured Housing... but not a Travel Trailer. I do not call our Airstream or Oliver a 'camper'. Pop Ups are called 'campers'. They count Words... not Facts.
There was a Thread on this Forum that was closed down, because the 'same protectionists' for the Aircleansing Promoters asked to have the Thread closed.
And shortly after, it was. I was looking for it and could not find it. I believe he had a 2022 or 2021 30 foot Airstream and had some of the best comments I have seen in a long time.
I am not known for short nasty posts. Mine are Long Nasty Posts... if I had a cause or reason. The Front Bed models with the 'Compression Indents', aka Front Separation which was my opinion that the front was compressing the Frame/Hitch up and compressing the shell below the Storage Compartment. I would like to have that TITLE of the Thread Changed to Front Compression Indents to Front Bed Storage Models. But... someone needs to complain that the original title is incorrect... now. Not then, as it was being discussed.
There appear to lots of Airstream 'Articles' either on the Internet, Magazines or Both that are written by people who have no idea. This was ONE Example. I listed other sites, but added them for those interested to browse, and maybe comment.
There are too many Posters who write two sentences, complaining about someone who writes actual experiences with their SOB or Airstream or Oliver Elites. There was a very well written Restorer of older Models, like this 21 Common Problems has no clue, that kept catching grief from the Fat Head Squad. Those whose Poop does not stink... but get nasty about someone with a different method or system that obviously worked.
These Forums cannot agree upon:
Tow Vehicle payloads
Trailer payloads (include Fresh, Black, Grey water)
Hitch weight added to trailer weight or Tow Vehicle's or (fill in the blank)
Hitches: obviously some hitches you are using are not like theirs and Bad
Tires Brand which is best
Tire Pressures for all tire brands should be...
Rivets are best
Screws are best
Lift Kit of 3 inches make an Airstream unstable?
Higher Pressure causes ALL of the interior pop rivets and screws to drop out
Water Pumps are noisy, not noisy, have air bubbles...
Towing a 27FBQ on the Ball with a F350 Diesel is a Suicide Choice?
Aluminum, Steel Pop Rivets... or my favorites.. Lath Screws
I am just tossing these out as I think of them. They are discussed forever and still few agree as a majority. Every time I sneeze... another paragraph is written.
The magazine articles or Internet Sites or whatever they are probably screen any responses, as well. Much like the purists on the Forum who whine about someone having a different approach to any subject.
Anyone have any thoughts to bravely add? Those who make comments in three sentences... save it until one complete paragraph forms a thought. Then we have something to discuss. Cancel Culture is here. I am not concerned. After 16 years of working on my Airstreams and now Oliver, this is hands on experience.
I could be raking dropping flower petals, falling off our trees, but did it earlier. Leaf Blower, push Broom and dust pan for gathering and putting into a garbage bag. The Rabbits use to eat them, but now the Coyotes have eaten the rabbits and now I have to gather flowers.
Thank you... lets discuss Misinformation on the Web and Magazines. What else does Morten Storgaard write about? Some sleuths out there want to dig up some information?
This has not been edited for correct verbs, being accurate or misspellings. If I offended someone, please tell us how, why and what you think. I already know what I think, right, wrong or embarrassing after not being able to Edit this... speech. Give it a few more minutes... and this is what it is.
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10-16-2022, 10:30 AM
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Rivet Master 

2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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Some of the far out comments might be written by folks that have never even used, seen or heard of the product before but just want to complain.
I like articles where it starts out, my “fill in the blank” has this problem and this is what I have done so far. Any suggestions appreciated……
I also like articles where the owners state what they have had done to their equipment and how that turned out for them. Gives me ideas for future projects or ones I would pass on for now.
Currently enjoying the first long tow with the Land Cruiser and the lifted 2015 23D that weighs 6,030 pounds. Going to A&P Vintage Trailer Works for more upgrades and fine tuning.
Now have gone from a guess for mileage to the actual numbers. Lowest in the mountains was 9.5 mpg and on the flats the best was 12.5 mpg. That is little worse than the 2012 Ram 2500HD Cummins towing the 31’ Classic (9,200 pounds actual weight) in the mountains and better than that rig on the flats.
There is another Airstream customizier I will meet tomorrow at A&P whose just finished mods list make mine look like a first graders efforts. Wil be exciting to see and learn about the new possibilities.
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10-16-2022, 10:40 AM
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Rivet Master 
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Oregon Buttes
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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TOOLS... what keeps your Airstream Moving
Lets talk tools. Lot of tools.
Purchasing new, you will need Tools. As you need them, you will haul them along on each trip. As you need another tool, add it to the small plastic container.
Then add fuses, tape, hardware like Lath Screws, Pop Rivets, grease, paper towels, spare parts that fail more often than other parts, etc.
I had a foot locker of Tools and Hardware and things I needed in 2006 and into 2022. Maybe 75 pounds. Since the tweaking of the 2019 27 FBQ... I can now safely knock 50 pounds of heavy tools for wheel bearings, hitch adjustments and other ONE TIME USE tools that were not cheap.
Finally... I can travel in peace, or can I? Is is best to keep the Tool Foot Locker and accessories, or gamble that my luck will hold out?
What do you find as permanent tools to carry and one time tools to leave at home?
I did find a couple towing a flat bed trailer behind their car with three motorcycles. The curb side wheel was at an angle. Obviously wheel bearing issue. I asked if they needed help. The wife was in tears. Husband was staring at the wheel... not knowing what they were going to do.
Mr. Tool Set was watching and saw the problem. Said... 'let's get busy'. I provided the tools, grease and explained to the husband how to jack up the trailer, pull off the wheel, the drum, the bearings, clean and grease them, inspect and reattach. I asked them to send us a Post Card if they made it home.
They Did. For the Want of a Nail, the War was Lost...kind of situation.
So... carry the 75 pounds or depend on YOU or someone to help... US?
Maybe best to haul the 75 pounds in the aluminum foot locker. You decide. I will probably ignore the advice, as I am a Neanderthal. When Off the Grid with only a walking stick... that just is not going to work very well.
I may have to jump in and sell BS and change my name to fill space in RV magazines. Pictures... also take up space. Have lots to work with. Hmmmmm.
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10-16-2022, 11:09 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
Currently Looking...
Niagara Falls
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Eklund
These were written by Morten Storgaard for RV Living as '21 Common Problems with Airstream Trailers'. (April 14, 2021)
'Go Downsize' also has comments on the Internet.
'nijacar.com' also has comments on the Internet for 2006 to 2009 models.
'www.coachspecialists.com/blog/common problems with Airstream Trailer
'wwwyoutube.com' has Troubleshooting Common Airstream Problems
'campergrid.com/reasons not to buy airstream'
'www.motorbiscuit.com/the most common Airstream Complaints
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Reviewing the original list of 21 common problems with Airstreams... I get the impression the author looked at unrestored original condition 25 to 40 year old Airstreams and made a list of these trailers as they remained, while left in a field. No mention of... Tires, either.
Yes... there are days that discovering many authors have no clue what they may be reporting. Obviously, few if any of these authors, ever owned an Airstream.
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It would be interesting to see a comparison of 20/30/40 year old units from as many brands as possible, used in similar conditions, and maintained at average levels; to see what brands have the most problems. Lay the results out in a giant table online for everyone to check out.
I notice no mention of water heaters, furnaces, bathrooms, kitchen equipment, frames, running gear, etc. Comparing on 50-100 points of common repair/failure items would give some indication which models and makes are usually in the best used condition, and which to avoid.
Up here in the great temperate north often units will fail from corrosion damage on the frame/axle/spring/shell/window frames etc. Rarely is there a unit of any brand that was stored outside that is in good condition at 20-30 years old.
There are a lot of gutted projects for sale in this area with prices way higher than they should be. Like people think because having the Airstream name on camper is like having it gold plated or something. A corroded piece of dented crap, is still crap, regardless of the name on the side. I have even seen 20 YO full size mobile homes cheap with frames already rotted out to the point that they could not be towed, and need to be flatbedded or demolished and trucked off the site(s).
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10-16-2022, 12:40 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
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Hi
One advantage of keeping almost all of the 21 "common issues" generic: When you write the one about the next brand, there is very little editing to do. Once you have the brand name on the article, you are guaranteed a lot of clicks ( and a lot of ad revenue ....).
Once you figure out that "a lot of ad revenue" comes out to something like $2 a month for ten months and less after that .... you really can't put a lot of effort in to these articles.
Bob
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10-16-2022, 01:19 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1997 25' Safari
Laurel
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2020
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As one commenter said, “click bait”
It seems to me that all those issues will follow ALL RV’s.
I am the third owner of a 25 year old 25’ Safari!
I had some repairs that were NEEDED! Anything else is minor, or self inflicted.
I LOVE MY AIRSTREAM!!!!!
I have no interest or intention of buying another brand!
My wife and I started with tents on the back of a motorcycle, moved to a pop up as it disintegrated around us each time we took it out.
We lucked… (I mean we stole the Safari from the neighbors before Covid), and we are not looking back!!!!!
My point is “if it’s not broke don’t fix it” (upgrade it?yes, if it’s broke GREAT time for an upgrade)…if it is broke, evaluate the repair. My truck mechanic says “is the repair worth a one time $1000, or a $500+ each month for the next 4+ years? payment?”
You will have to maintain and repair your Airstream, this is a given. As an other commenter has stated, “Airstreams hold there resale value.” I MUST reevaluate my insurance policy! I will loose my lunch if it gets totaled .
I am in this for the LONG run with this trailer, I have upgraded many things on it, I plan to visit ALL of North America with it. Which means I need to be cognizant of maintenance and all repairs!….. what I can’t do, I will hire out.
As a message to EVERYONE, repair or restore it, don’t crush it! Look at the prices of the “old” trailers, they are many times more expensive now than their original cost!!!
To ALL out there, stay safe, have fun, Godspeed!
Rick
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10-16-2022, 01:37 PM
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Rivet Master 
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Eklund
These were written by Morten Storgaard for RV Living as '21 Common Problems with Airstream Trailers'. (April 14, 2021)
- Corrosion
- Rivets
- Leaks
- Dents
- Scratches
- Difficult to Find Replacement Parts
- Difficult to Repair the Exterior
- Poor Performance in Cold Weather
- Poor Battery Performance
- Combined Waste Water Tanks
- High Maintenance
- Floor Rot
- Faulty Window Opening Latches
- Potentially Dangerous Electrical Systems
- Poor Off Road Capabilities
- Sharp Metal Edges
- Walls too Cold or too Hot
- High Price Tags
- Talkative People
- Quality Control Issues in Past Years
- Tough to Mount Items on the Roof
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When I look at this list about half can be solved by maintenance and care. Some are just bizarre…and never had a problem with them. Some are true for just about everything that is manufactured…And some are things that frankly are ridiculous (such as Talkative people?).
As to high price tag, well you don’t get something for nothing.
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10-16-2022, 03:14 PM
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Rivet Master 
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Oregon Buttes
, Wyoming
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Advice of unexpected Repairs and Tools Used
There are many experienced Owners on this Forum for General Repairs. Not by... choice, I will say. The labor bill for a simple job is high at a RV Service Shop and their mechanics also learned... by doing the first time, as well.
How anyone maintains their Airstream is an education over years. You may not agree with their procedure of 'The Fix'... it is important to understand most anyone can try a fix, themselves. If it does not work, there is always the RV Service Shop to visit.
If something happens to your Airstream when on the road, many are interested in how you did the fix with what tools.
Bolts and Nuts, holding the Shocks onto the Dexter Axle Thread is a good example. I have often wondered what purpose they provide... much like having an ear ring in your nose, kind of thing.
I keep a good supply of Lath Screws for simple interior jobs. I am not a purist. If a pop rivet fails... there is a reason. If the pop rivet fails a second time... try a Lath screw 1/2" or a 3/4" depending on the skin and frame having a gap, or flush to one another. Toothpick probe or a dentist's pick works... just great.
All of the issues that was in the article were itemized, if you want to read out of curiosity. I was. All posting on this Thread could do a better job.
We are sterilizing the fresh water lines and tank on the Oliver Elite this afternoon. Tightening screws and hardware... yep... they fall out as well. It is a Travel Trailer and I upgrade to Lath Screws and make some adjustments to where to seat the screws. Had 6 or 7 missing screws on the water system under the curb side bed of the Oliver. So have plenty to say about Oliver screws being a bit too short and in plywood... is not a good combination.
Well... break is over. Getting the new Clorox that has no scent... and it doesn't to run through the water lines and fresh water tank. First time on this trailer.
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10-16-2022, 04:58 PM
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Rivet Master 
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Oregon Buttes
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Truma Hot Water System... Hack Job Service?
"Well... break is over. Getting the new Clorox that has no scent... and run through the water lines and fresh water tank. First time on this trailer."
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Clorox still stinks. Not as bad as I recall, but it still stinks. Asked wife where the plastic bottle said it did not stink. No comment....
What is better... mildew flavor... or Stink? After the fresh water flush, it will be like drinking out of the Mississippi River... ahhhhh. The good old days, for sure.
This is the FIRST EVER, obviously... sanitizing the fresh water tank and fresh water lines in the 2019 Oliver Elite. The previous owner said he did not know how to drain the fresh water tank. He also forgot about the Truma hot water repair, that still did not fix the problem, yet a Las Vegas certified RV Center fixed it twice. Often, once is plenty.
I have the receipts. First time the repair did not work. Second time the repair obviously did not work. As... I was the Third time, wanted to see what all the Blather was about the Truma instant hot water was all about. This Fairy Tale gets better as you read along my narration...
****** Truma Hot Water system in the 2019 Oliver Elite II*** fairy tale
Turned the water on to the Truma... and water was coming out of it instantly, but from broken water system within and coming out the front, onto the driveway.
Took the system apart, and it took less time for me, as many screws were missing and the copper water tank was tin snipped to fit the Burner and it was not correctly installed, flopped around and broke the water line going out of the tank. I would have used my Lath Screws to secure the contents... which I always have handy.
When I was buying the trailer... did not water it up. Learned a lesson this time. The RV Service center said they did not do the tin snipping to install the burners that would not fire up. It had to be someone else that made a mess of things.
My thought was... if it worked, why would anyone else work on it, anyways.
OK... we are not all Geniuses. But come on... If you have Honest ABE selling a trailer to you.... make sure everything works. Water it up. Refer. Furnace, AC, Brakes... and even fire up the hot water tank. Truma is not inexpensive, nor are the parts.
RV Service center says... sorry. Truma says out of warranty. So I removed the entire system and for the savings of $1150+ plus labor or so... I would have to take $1 showers, everyday for 1200 days. If we camped 100 days a year... gives me 12 YEARS to break even, if that is the term. Getting Even... is a Stone Age system and discouraged with modern legal advice.
I still have the 2019 27 International with a working hot water system. Never taken a shower in it. I admit, I am a Neanderthal and a jump in a lake is good enough for me and the three Blue Heelers. But... it still works and not a Truma.
Hot Water off the cook top... is also hot... for the cost of Propane.
I would supply photographs as I took the system out of the tight compartment for... evidence. But I have no more photo posting available to hear what you thought about 'this was a trained certified Truma repair person' repair. He may be using Flint Tools, which I am familiar with.
I now know more about how a Truma Hot Water is assembled... and it has more wiring within it than my house... well not really but it is full of wires and plugs.
Just finished bypassing and shutting off water and propane to the empty Truma Hot Water System. Have PARTS to Sell, except the hack job done to the copper tank. Have photos.
Yep... a 'happy camper' am I. Took my photo after checking out the Truma.
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10-16-2022, 10:49 PM
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Rivet Master 
2019 25' International
Washington
, Washington, D.C.
Join Date: Oct 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Eklund
These were written by Morten Storgaard for RV Living as '21 Common Problems with Airstream Trailers'. (April 14, 2021)
- Corrosion
- Rivets
- Leaks
- Dents
- Scratches
- Difficult to Find Replacement Parts
- Difficult to Repair the Exterior
- Poor Performance in Cold Weather
- Poor Battery Performance
- Combined Waste Water Tanks
- High Maintenance
- Floor Rot
- Faulty Window Opening Latches
- Potentially Dangerous Electrical Systems
- Poor Off Road Capabilities
- Sharp Metal Edges
- Walls too Cold or too Hot
- High Price Tags
- Talkative People
- Quality Control Issues in Past Years
- Tough to Mount Items on the Roof
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'Go Downsize' also has comments on the Internet.
'nijacar.com' also has comments on the Internet for 2006 to 2009 models.
'www.coachspecialists.com/blog/common problems with Airstream Trailer
'wwwyoutube.com' has Troubleshooting Common Airstream Problems
'campergrid.com/reasons not to buy airstream'
'www.motorbiscuit.com/the most common Airstream Complaints
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Reviewing the original list of 21 common problems with Airstreams... I get the impression the author looked at unrestored original condition 25 to 40 year old Airstreams and made a list of these trailers as they remained, while left in a field. No mention of... Tires, either.
I find the 'outsider impressions' about Airstreams are not very accurate once an experienced Airstream owners reviews each point being made. Even those of us who tinker on our Airstreams will find MANY Reviews that are not accurate, nor common problems with any Airstream.
What may you discovered on the Internet that concern Airstreams, positive or negative? Others do read these articles. Maybe more Airstream Owners need to get their message out.
I only reviewed the first from RV Living. The others... you may want to comment.
Yes... there are days that discovering many authors have no clue what they may be reporting. Obviously, few if any of these authors, ever owned an Airstream.
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You have dug up an article, written 18 months ago, that highlights Airstream defects. Okay, and? What is your point? You doing this - it feels contrived.
I think you are still a bit pissed because you ended up with an Airstream that has the 'dimple defect' on either side of its front compartment; and because Airstream has not addressed this issue to your satisfaction, you constantly compare the supposed quality of your latest little trailer (Oliver) with Airstream to take them down, or make them pay attention or whatever. I hope it makes you feel better.
Oh, and of course you're not going to give up your Airstream. It is the most iconic trailer on the planet. Period.
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3 Rivet Member 
Currently Looking...
Niagara Falls
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Eklund
R V Living? Getting close to becoming RVLife?
I suspect that, if not ALL, but MOST of those who write to fill pages for pay on many sites or magazines have never owned a Travel Trailer.
These Forums cannot agree upon:
Tow Vehicle payloads
Trailer payloads (include Fresh, Black, Grey water)
Hitch weight added to trailer weight or Tow Vehicle's or (fill in the blank)
Hitches: obviously some hitches you are using are not like theirs and Bad
Tires Brand which is best
Tire Pressures for all tire brands should be...
Rivets are best
Screws are best
Lift Kit of 3 inches make an Airstream unstable?
Higher Pressure causes ALL of the interior pop rivets and screws to drop out
Water Pumps are noisy, not noisy, have air bubbles...
Towing a 27FBQ on the Ball with a F350 Diesel is a Suicide Choice?
Aluminum, Steel Pop Rivets... or my favorites.. Lath Screws
I am just tossing these out as I think of them. They are discussed forever and still few agree as a majority. Every time I sneeze... another paragraph is written.
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Some more for the cant agree list
Best solar panels/controllers/batteries
Best fridge/stove/water-heater/furnace/heater/air-conditioner units
Best brake controllers/brake systems
Best tow vehicle for trailer size
best material choice for renos of floor/roof/walls etc.
There has to be more somewhere in my brain.
This would be a great reason to have a FAQ on the front page with regular updates as new systems come out.
Also could include a best value for price rating of different items, for people who only occasionally use their trailers (compared to full time RVers) a lower cost appliance will probably last as long as a high end unit would since rust never sleeps etc.
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10-17-2022, 10:20 AM
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Rivet Master 
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Oregon Buttes
, Wyoming
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,949
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Reading 'Between the Lines'... does not make one wise
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Originally Posted by PatLee
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You have dug up an article, written 18 months ago, that highlights Airstream defects. Okay, and? What is your point? You doing this - it feels contrived.
I think you are still a bit pissed because you ended up with an Airstream that has the 'dimple defect' on either side of its front compartment; and because Airstream has not addressed this issue to your satisfaction, you constantly compare the supposed quality of your latest little trailer (Oliver) with Airstream to take them down, or make them pay attention or whatever. I hope it makes you feel better.
Oh, and of course you're not going to give up your Airstream. It is the most iconic trailer on the planet. Period.
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Archaeologists DIG UP... I report what I have read and had a dispute with this author's opinion. Obviously amateurs exist that own or look at an Airstream with a different view. Like riding a horse, and having one pull a wagon... the view is different.
The Airstream is NOT the most ICONIC 'aluminum' Travel Trailer on this Planet. It is the Second most iconic trailer on the planet. The most ICONIC of aluminum trailers is still being made and Airstream is the offspring of this trailer brand.
The Bowlus, although supreme in standing out anywhere... it is not practical for Off the Grid Boondocking... for us. We looked at the Bowlus in Henderson, Nevada a few years ago. Beauty and quality that one must see, to understand. We did see and were impressed.
Our 2019 Oliver Elite II is supreme with all the needed Off the Grid Boondocking advantages. The most iconic of the 'fiber glass trailers'. With quality built into it, as well as onto it.
Is your 2019 25 International a FBQ with the wide storage door? If not... lucky you. It is not your place to criticize those who DID end up with a FBQ, not knowing. Tell us your story... if you would.
We added the three inch lift and 16 inch Michelins to make our 2019 27FBQ OTG, while the Oliver it was all stock. I was not aware of the structural defect in the FBQ models... had I... I would have kept our 2016 25 foot International, not a FBQ.
I also would believe that the Oliver would float for a longer time in a Lake than any Airstream, or Bowlus. Be my guest and prove me wrong?
Iconic:
- depicting a victorious athlete in a conventional style
- famously and distinctively representative of its type
- recognized for one's experience and history in a particular field
You bet I am pissed not knowing about this Engineering Defect in the FBQ models of Airstreams. It will not happen to me again, if I chose to buy one or more 'iconic' trailers. I consider Oliver iconic as well.
Seach: Top 12 Best Travel Trailer Brands of 2021= RVing Know How
Iconic Travel Trailers brings up 1,520,000,000 results. Could you review all of these and give us your opinion? That would be 1,520,000,001 results.
My purpose is to stimulate intelligent discussion, not assume everyone has any experience or knowledge to add to the conversation.
I did not write that list... so you need to take a deep breath. You read the headline and missed all of the followups. What do you know about your trailer?
Have you done any work on your Airstream? Or pay someone to do it?
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10-17-2022, 08:04 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
Northern
, California
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 215
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Is that a bug or a feature? These are simply potential consequences from the engineering of the Airstream, plain and simple. If you have a modern one and care for it the features of a beautiful piece of timeless design won’t give you any of the problems.
Plus some of them are true only because it’s the only trailer that has been made for 90+ years. For example the newer ones have the composite floor which shouldn’t rot, and what are you doing anyhow such that your floor is rotting?
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10-18-2022, 08:44 AM
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Rivet Master 
2019 25' International
Washington
, Washington, D.C.
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,325
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Eklund
...Is your 2019 25 International a FBQ with the wide storage door? If not... lucky you. It is not your place to criticize those who DID end up with a FBQ, not knowing. Tell us your story... if you would.
We added the three inch lift and 16 inch Michelins to make our 2019 27FBQ OTG, while the Oliver it was all stock. I was not aware of the structural defect in the FBQ models... had I... I would have kept our 2016 25 foot International, not a FBQ.
I also would believe that the Oliver would float for a longer time in a Lake than any Airstream, or Bowlus. Be my guest and prove me wrong?
Iconic:
- depicting a victorious athlete in a conventional style
- famously and distinctively representative of its type
- recognized for one's experience and history in a particular field
You bet I am pissed not knowing about this Engineering Defect in the FBQ models of Airstreams. It will not happen to me again, if I chose to buy one or more 'iconic' trailers. I consider Oliver iconic as well.
Seach: Top 12 Best Travel Trailer Brands of 2021= RVing Know How
Iconic Travel Trailers brings up 1,520,000,000 results. Could you review all of these and give us your opinion? That would be 1,520,000,001 results.
My purpose is to stimulate intelligent discussion, not assume everyone has any experience or knowledge to add to the conversation.
I did not write that list... so you need to take a deep breath. You read the headline and missed all of the followups. What do you know about your trailer?
Have you done any work on your Airstream? Or pay someone to do it?
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Take a deep breath? How patronizing.
Yes, I have exactly the same trailer. I do not have the dimple defect problem. I have also added a 3" lift and the 16" Michelin classic tires.
And again, in my opinion, the Airstream is the most iconic trailer on the planet.
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