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10-25-2018, 11:19 PM
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New Member
2018 Basecamp
Tacoma
, Washington
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 3
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2018 Basecamp leaning to the side
My husband and I just purchased a 2018 Basecamp. When we got home from picking it up and parked it we noticed for the first time that as we looked at it it was leaning to the right side(the side where the battery, furnace, bathroom etc is on). We were sent home with a full tank of water so we drained it but it remains listing (not just as bad). We checked the level of the floor/pad the BC is sitting on and it's level. The tire pressure is balanced as well. Anyone have any thoughts on what we are experiencing? I do not feel it's safe...isn't one rule of safe towing a balanced load? This BC is NOT balanced; my husband has not notified the dealer as yet because he wants to see if he can somehow weigh each side of the BC....I on the hand hand think the thing needs to go back (knowing full well no one is going to let me return it). Thoughts?
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10-26-2018, 02:49 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Welcome to the forum! You can weigh your BC at a commercial truck scale, often called CAT scale here. The new search function in the blue box above works great, and these search results should point to threads with more info:
"CAT scale" -- https://www.google.com/search?q=CAT+...com&gws_rd=ssl
You might also want to read the various Basecamp threads reporting problems:
BC Issues: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f404...es-162632.html
Simple Survey [fridge problems]: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f404...ne-169937.html
Basecamp forum: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f404/
You should probably notify the dealer ASAP, even before you weigh the BC, because you might have a serious safety issue! There is also a toll-free number in the paperwork with your Airstream manual you should call ASAP. Keep careful records of your communications with the dealer and Airstream -- email is the best method IMO.
Good luck,
Peter
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10-26-2018, 05:38 AM
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Rivet Master
2000 25' Safari
Davidson County
, NC Highlands County, FL
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,493
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nelulay
<<snip>>? This BC is NOT balanced; my husband has not notified the dealer as yet because he wants to see if he can somehow weigh each side of the BC....I on the hand hand think the thing needs to go back (knowing full well no one is going to let me return it). Thoughts?
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Definitely have the dealer check the trailer if you think it is unsafe!
Weigh the trailer as stated above. This is necessary until you get familiar with loading both the trailer and tow vehicle.
But remember, balance is achieved by loading the trailer properly. ( you have to load the trailer with your camping gear, and shift it around on the interior until balance is achieved) It is not unusual for one tire to have more weight on it than the other, even by several hundred pounds, before and/or after loading.
Read the Owners Manual.
ps:
Welcome to the forum!
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2014 Silverado LTZ 1500 Crew Cab 5.3L maximum trailering package
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10-26-2018, 05:57 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,080
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Take lots of pictures, for your own records and to send them to the dealer.
Call them but then confirm everything in writing via email, and continue to do so.
I wouldn’t do anything with this rig without dealer input, lest you invalidate your warranty or otherwise cause yourself problems in getting it resolved.
Good luck.
Maggie
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10-26-2018, 09:09 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 28' International
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 405
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I would notify the dealer ASAP and also call the Customer Service team at the factory. They might have seen this before and can offer some advice. The way you explained it I am understanding that the BC is listing to starboard, if that is the case, I have a question for the previous posters. How do you get the weight on the right side of the trailer at a CAT scale? Wouldn't it have to be sideways on the scale with one tire on one scale and the other on the other scale. I guess I don't understand how the scales work.
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10-26-2018, 09:42 AM
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Airstream Ambassador
Jackson Center
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 742
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nelulay
My husband and I just purchased a 2018 Basecamp. When we got home from picking it up and parked it we noticed for the first time that as we looked at it it was leaning to the right side(the side where the battery, furnace, bathroom etc is on). We were sent home with a full tank of water so we drained it but it remains listing (not just as bad). We checked the level of the floor/pad the BC is sitting on and it's level. The tire pressure is balanced as well. Anyone have any thoughts on what we are experiencing? I do not feel it's safe...isn't one rule of safe towing a balanced load? This BC is NOT balanced; my husband has not notified the dealer as yet because he wants to see if he can somehow weigh each side of the BC....I on the hand hand think the thing needs to go back (knowing full well no one is going to let me return it). Thoughts?
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Hi nelulay,*
Congratulations on your new Basecamp! Please send us a direct message with your contact information and the last 6 digits of your VIN so we can share this information with our Customer Service and Technical Support team. We look forward to helping you get this resolved.
You can also reach Airstream Customer Service and Technical Support at*customer_support@airstream.com*
Thank you.*
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Airstream Customer Service and Technical Support can be reached at 1 (877) 596-6111, option 1.
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10-26-2018, 09:50 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 28' International
Fayetteville
, Georgia
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 829
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My trailer and I both lean right...
brick
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2018 International Serenity
Cute wife...
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10-26-2018, 10:54 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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Getting a left and right side weight may not be possible on a CAT scale. You have to pull on the scale with one tire on the scale and one on the pavement to the side of the scale. I thought it has been posted that CAT scale operators do not allow the one off and one on weighing. So you may have to find a helpful operator or an alternate scale to establish your weights. Wonder if tongue weight scale would allow weighing at home. There are 5000lb, 2000lb and the standard 1000lb scales we often see recommended. Pat
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10-26-2018, 12:57 PM
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Classy Roscoe
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 214
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Nenulay,
Congrats on your new Basecamp!!
Airstream has responded and they WILL work with you. They are good people.
Just a thought, you verified tire pressure, but also verify that both tires are the same type and character. That is, make sure that the specifications of both tires are exactly the same.
If both sides don't have exactly the same type tire they can be just fine but set different.
A black tire is a black tire and mistakenly can make one believe they both are a the same.
But if they are identical, besides weight loading, you may have a defective shock or something bent or missing.
Unbalanced weigh distribution is not your friend and can cause problems when you don't need problems. (e.i. Wet roads, sharp down hill roads, sudden need to brake and so on.)
Safe travels.
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10-26-2018, 02:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 30' Classic
Anna Maria
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,644
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nelulay
My husband and I just purchased a 2018 Basecamp. When we got home from picking it up and parked it we noticed for the first time that as we looked at it it was leaning to the right side(the side where the battery, furnace, bathroom etc is on). We were sent home with a full tank of water so we drained it but it remains listing (not just as bad). We checked the level of the floor/pad the BC is sitting on and it's level. The tire pressure is balanced as well. Anyone have any thoughts on what we are experiencing? I do not feel it's safe...isn't one rule of safe towing a balanced load? This BC is NOT balanced; my husband has not notified the dealer as yet because he wants to see if he can somehow weigh each side of the BC....I on the hand hand think the thing needs to go back (knowing full well no one is going to let me return it). Thoughts?
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I seriously doubt it's a misloading issue. Interior build out is done in a balanced manner and if you haven't loaded any heavy items and your tanks are empty than I would suspect the running gear. Axles, shocks, tires , wheels mounting etc.
Why are you reluctant to contact the dealer. I would have had that trailer back there in a heartbeat. Even if I would have made some mistake it's lot easier to apologize than to try to analyze something you don't know much about.
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10-26-2018, 03:03 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Welcome Aboard!! 👍
Did you have a comprehensive orientation, any photo's?
I realize it's after the fact...but, your dealer dropped the ball on the PDI.
If it is, in fact, a build defect the Factory must accept blame for not catching it.
Sorry to admit, but an all to common occurrence. 👎
Get it back and be firm, if the lean is too much for you to overlook...don't accept it.
Insist repair or replace.
Bob
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10-26-2018, 03:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,052
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I agree with Frankly Frank. You have a good dealer in Airstream Adventures NW, contact them.
Mike
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10-28-2018, 06:48 PM
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Registered User
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Fairfield
, California
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 905
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VaTravelers
I would notify the dealer ASAP and also call the Customer Service team at the factory. They might have seen this before and can offer some advice. The way you explained it I am understanding that the BC is listing to starboard, if that is the case, I have a question for the previous posters. How do you get the weight on the right side of the trailer at a CAT scale? Wouldn't it have to be sideways on the scale with one tire on one scale and the other on the other scale. I guess I don't understand how the scales work.
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At the different scales I worked at while a weightmaster none of the scales had a way to drive only left or right tires on. Usually there was railings, dips, or simply no room.
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11-07-2018, 12:56 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1976 29' Ambassador
Madison
, Officially SD but are traveling full time.
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 335
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I have been surprised at the number of defects in new Airstreams that are reported here. We bought a 29' 1976 Airstream 11 years ago. We have been through every square foot of the trailer and have found signs of poor craftsmanship in almost every area. But we only paid $5000 for ours and any improvements we have paid for as we go. I can imagine the disappointment of getting home to find that there is a defect that might make the trailer unsafe on the road. CAT scales are good for measuring one set or both sets of tires but it will be difficult to get a weight on a single tire. Find out if you can get a scale that will provide you with the weight of each tire. Might as well get the tongue weight for future reference.
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11-07-2018, 02:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,118
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So what happened? Is Airstream or the dealer going to look at it?
Have you taken each wheel off and inspected the axle mounting, the angle of the struts, and the range of travel? I can see the potential for a flange to be mounted incorrectly or something like that.
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11-07-2018, 06:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nelulay
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Thoughts?
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Wondering if you have received any satisfaction from Airstream on this? Your ID still shows only 1 post total.
Thanks,
Peter
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11-07-2018, 09:09 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2017 Basecamp
Albuquerque
, New Mexico
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15
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I have a 2017 Basecamp. It has always been level empty tanks, no gear; empty tanks, lopsided gear; full tanks, no gear; full tanks, full gear. I have no doubt that you could manage to make it list by loading it unevenly with enough weight, but I keep mine regularly loaded with 250lbs more on one side than the other and this seems to have no effect. I can't shed much light on what is going on with your particular trailer, but this definitely seems to be some kind of manufacturing defect rather than anything that you have done or weight distribution problem.
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11-08-2018, 04:19 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Vintage Kin Owner
Toledo
, Ohio
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill M.
So what happened? Is Airstream or the dealer going to look at it?
Have you taken each wheel off and inspected the axle mounting, the angle of the struts, and the range of travel? I can see the potential for a flange to be mounted incorrectly or something like that.
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I am only stating that some are unable to do such things because of one reason or another. Those are things that should be inspected at the factory or dealership for the cost.
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11-09-2018, 01:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Could you please update us on this?
Thanks,
Peter
Quote:
Originally Posted by nelulay
My husband and I just purchased a 2018 Basecamp. When we got home from picking it up and parked it we noticed for the first time that as we looked at it it was leaning to the right side(the side where the battery, furnace, bathroom etc is on). We were sent home with a full tank of water so we drained it but it remains listing (not just as bad). We checked the level of the floor/pad the BC is sitting on and it's level. The tire pressure is balanced as well. Anyone have any thoughts on what we are experiencing? I do not feel it's safe...isn't one rule of safe towing a balanced load? This BC is NOT balanced; my husband has not notified the dealer as yet because he wants to see if he can somehow weigh each side of the BC....I on the hand hand think the thing needs to go back (knowing full well no one is going to let me return it). Thoughts?
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11-10-2018, 08:09 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Vintage Kin Owner
Toledo
, Ohio
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
Could you please update us on this?
Thanks,
Peter
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PLEASE ............I haven't moved since you said you would keep us updated and I'm getting hungry!
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