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03-28-2016, 12:11 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 685
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Looking for advice on brake shoes
I have a 2009 27 Flying Cloud. I finally got 16" Sendels and Michelins. Pulled off the drums and time to replace shoes.
First question; It appears you can buy complete backing plate assemblies with, shoes, magnets, springs, etc. Is that correct?
Second question; It also appears that buying the complete assembly costs less than buying just the shoes and magnets. Is that correct?
Third question; Where are good places to purchase parts.
Fourth and final question; Does anyone know the part numbers or where to find them. I called Dexter but didn't get a response.
Thanks in advance. Hal
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03-28-2016, 05:22 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Just what I would do....
......disclaimer, I know nothing.
My experience......
These are Dexter replacements after 5k mi. Bonded shoes, adhesive failure...China. Dexter replaced no charge. I sent them photo's and kept the cores.
Notice there are no 'blue' telltales that would indicate that heat caused the failure.
I had the cores re-lined, bonded & RIVETED, at a local shop, ready for next time.
IIWY.... I'd check here and do the same if possible Support Local!!
All those 'loaded' assemblies that I have researched are made in China.....
Bob
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03-28-2016, 06:18 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
1963 26' Overlander
1989 34' Excella
Johnsburg
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,944
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Here is the link to source of loaded brake backing plate I have used in the past http://www.easternmarine.com/Hydraul...ke-Assemblies/ They were bonded, but worked for me.
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03-29-2016, 08:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 685
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Wow, thanks for the information. The complete assemblies make it simple but I do worry about Chinese parts. Did you turn your drums too?
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03-29-2016, 09:36 AM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,881
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hhendrix,
It is much easier to replace the whole backing plate as an assembly. You will need to find a brake shop or machine shop to resurface the hub/drum assemblies. Both the armature surface and the shoe surface. New drums are about $60 each, so depending on the machine shop, it may be faster, easier and cheaper to replace the hub/drums as well.
http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hubs...r/8-201-5.html
http://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Trai..._lbs_Axle.aspx
There are Dexter made in the USA backing plates available from Redneck Trailer Supply.
Redneck's closest location for you may be in Idaho, but they will ship quickly.
You may also find good service from Rockwell American in Wilsonville, OR.
http://www.rockwellamerican.com/loca...e-distribution
I've never had an issue with bonded brake shoes, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
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03-29-2016, 10:50 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,577
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I got my backing plates complete for $58 and new hubs- drums for 110$ including bearings, they are still doing good...
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03-29-2016, 11:13 AM
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Rivet Master
1998 30' Excella 1000
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tjdonahoe
I got my backing plates complete for $58 and new hubs- drums for 110$ including bearings, they are still doing good...
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Did you replace all that running gear hardware on a 2013? If so, please explain.
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03-29-2016, 11:39 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hhendrix
Wow, thanks for the information. The complete assemblies make it simple but I do worry about Chinese parts. Did you turn your drums too?
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Did I turn?....no. Just cleaned.
The shoes seen above only had 5k on them when they failed and the separation was caught on the Spring get-ready.
Bob
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03-29-2016, 09:39 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1973 31' Sovereign
Middletown
, California
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 424
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I don't turn drums or rotors as long as they have the same amount of roughness on each side of the vehicle or really bad or out of round/parallel working surfaces. Too many times I got them back and had a pedal pulsing problem because the person that turned them didn't understand the concept of concentricity! I've had guys get mad at me when I suggested that maybe they could wipe the chips off the mandrel when I could easily see the run out of the drum from 20 feet away. Where the magnet rubs needs to be smooth on electric brakes. Nothing wrong with bonded shoes, in fact your less likely to grove the working surface because the rivets are what cut the deepest grooves. Made in China can be OK, but sometimes... not! I wipe any anti-rust coating or greasy fingerprints off the working surfaces also. To me the details count when doing some things. Because of the low cost of the China parts, and the way my spine has been getting, I will try the loaded backing plates next time but I'll save the old made in America parts just in case...
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03-30-2016, 05:39 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Absolutely.....nothing at all wrong with poorly bonded shoes.
I can't be sure how the separated linings would have presented themselves had they not been discovered before our first outing, I doubt it would have been a pleasent experience.
Diligent inspection will most always overpower wayward rivets.
Bob
“You can only be proved foolish if you don't do it and what you didn't do would have proved doable had you done it in the first place.”
RLC
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03-30-2016, 06:43 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
1963 26' Overlander
1989 34' Excella
Johnsburg
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Sometimes you get what you pay for. Sometimes you don't. End user review of suppliers
from reliable sources (like AirForums) can help keep you from ordering parts from bad suppliers. Most brake linings these days are bonded. The quality varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. Gain advantage by using other people's experience.
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03-30-2016, 07:19 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,577
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Siegmann
Did you replace all that running gear hardware on a 2013? If so, please explain.
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Oh no! It was on the 04 classic and it had about 85000 miles and I was 2sd owner....also did my neighbors last year, every thing is good..
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03-30-2016, 07:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,577
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tjdonahoe
Oh no! It was on the 04 classic and it had about 85000 miles and I was 2sd owner....also did my neighbors last year, every thing is good..
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Looked at picture, did you show Dexter ? At 5000 miles you only need shoes, where did all the rust come from?
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03-30-2016, 08:51 AM
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1987 Avion 34W owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Good Ol'
, USA
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,090
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I have been pleased with the 6 complete assemblies I ordered through Southwest Wheel. They are "Chinese", but I was told by the seller that they are the same components that Dexter brings in to be "made in USA".
I have no way of confirming or denying that. They seem to work well, though.
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