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05-03-2007, 04:07 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
1971 23' Safari
Beaverton
, Oregon
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Disc Brake Controller
I don't wan't to seem like I'm beating this topic to death, but I just noticed that the Prodigy manual cautions against using it with an electro-hydraulic disc brake system. I'm getting a Actibrake/Kodiac system. What is the best brake controller to use with that system? Is Prodigy just being over cautious?
Pete
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05-03-2007, 05:58 PM
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Rivet Master 
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rrpranch
I don't wan't to seem like I'm beating this topic to death, but I just noticed that the Prodigy manual cautions against using it with an electro-hydraulic disc brake system. I'm getting a Actibrake/Kodiac system. What is the best brake controller to use with that system? Is Prodigy just being over cautious?
Pete 
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Prodigy should not be used.
Hayes "Energizer 3" or Hayes "Genesis" (preferred) works great.
Andy
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05-03-2007, 06:35 PM
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Rivet Master 

2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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Andy has a good perspective -- experience talks! I recently posted that Jordan was coming out with a disk brake compatible controller. Last fall's info about a disk compatible Jordan seems to be delayed. per Best Brake Controller today, "The new Ultima Plus is under development. We do not have a release date so please bookmark this page for updates."
Another related discussion is at http://www.airforums.com/forums/f439...e-23504-6.html
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05-03-2007, 07:22 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
1971 23' Safari
Beaverton
, Oregon
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 29
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Thanks Andy and Bob! I really appreciate the info. Hey Bob, I graduated for St. Cloud State. Small world, eh?
Pete
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05-03-2007, 08:11 PM
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More than one rivet loose

Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
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it does work
The prodigy is listed as approved by actibrake. see attached.
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Michelle TAC MT-0
Sarah, Snowball 
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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05-03-2007, 09:19 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
1971 23' Safari
Beaverton
, Oregon
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 29
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Well it's good to know that the prodigy will work with the Actibrake controller too. That gives me more options when it comes to brake controllers.
Thanks a ton, Michelle.
Pete
p.s. Isn't eastern Oregon sweet?!
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05-04-2007, 10:08 AM
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More than one rivet loose

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Los Alamos
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It is nice but it snowed yesterday. I work in a un-heated hangar. It was cold. It still cold. It is supposed to get up into the 70s next week.
We are going to have cool weekend at the little Wallowa Lake gathering.
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Michelle TAC MT-0
Sarah, Snowball 
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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05-09-2007, 07:11 AM
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1 Rivet Member 
Centerburg
, Ohio
Join Date: Mar 2007
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I just installed the Prodigy on my new AS 31' and completed my first trip with it. I returned from 300miles with the burnt brake oder. I continued to adjust the power setting on the Prodigy but still had the smell. I saw the article which states Actibrake does recomend the unit, yet when I called the maker of Prodigy, they said it is not recomended for the AS disc brake system.
I have to agree NOT to use the prodigy on the AS as the brakes do not
simitainously slow down. I get a surge in the trailer stopping at almost any setting. My lasted attemp to resolve this was set the Prodigy to 3.0v and .b1
From other forums on this issue, I was certain Prodigy was the way to go.
Any thoughts?
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05-09-2007, 07:45 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2007 27' International CCD FB
Everett
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 378
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Confused!!!
Ok…Now I’m confused! I’m looking at a new (07) Classic 31, I own a new (07) Dodge Ram 2500 diesel. Reading the threads about break controllers I’ve concluded that the Prodigy was the way to go. Will the Prodigy controller work with the AS??? I have time for this and wish to do it right. The last thing I need is a truck and trailer in the ditch.
Bill
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05-09-2007, 08:28 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
2007 34' Classic
Pecos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 124
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I have an 07 34' Classic and an 07 Dodge Ram 2500 diesel. We use the Hayes controller with no problem, but have been told that the Prodigy will work fine (a technician at the AS factory said it would). We wish we would have known this since we had one for our previous trailer, but the dealer we bought the trailer from said only the Hayes would work. Good Luck!
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Cow Creek, NM
'07 34' Classic
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05-09-2007, 08:46 AM
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Rivet Master 
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlo57
I just installed the Prodigy on my new AS 31' and completed my first trip with it. I returned from 300miles with the burnt brake oder. I continued to adjust the power setting on the Prodigy but still had the smell. I saw the article which states Actibrake does recomend the unit, yet when I called the maker of Prodigy, they said it is not recomended for the AS disc brake system.
I have to agree NOT to use the prodigy on the AS as the brakes do not
simitainously slow down. I get a surge in the trailer stopping at almost any setting. My lasted attemp to resolve this was set the Prodigy to 3.0v and .b1
From other forums on this issue, I was certain Prodigy was the way to go.
Any thoughts?
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Hayes Energize or Hayes Genesis controllers, work extremely well with the Actibrake system.
We have used them for a long time, without a single problem.
Andy
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05-09-2007, 08:47 AM
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Rivet Master 
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HankandLois
Ok…Now I’m confused! I’m looking at a new (07) Classic 31, I own a new (07) Dodge Ram 2500 diesel. Reading the threads about break controllers I’ve concluded that the Prodigy was the way to go. Will the Prodigy controller work with the AS??? I have time for this and wish to do it right. The last thing I need is a truck and trailer in the ditch.
Bill
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See the above post.
Andy
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05-09-2007, 08:53 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2007 27' International CCD FB
Everett
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 378
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Me again!!
All right…I guess my question should be what are the “standard brakes” used on the Classic 31. This would then set the direction to go for the type/manufacture of the controller.
Bill
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05-09-2007, 09:34 AM
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More than one rivet loose

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Los Alamos
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Yes.
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Michelle TAC MT-0
Sarah, Snowball 
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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05-09-2007, 09:37 AM
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More than one rivet loose

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Los Alamos
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06 was actibrake actuator with kodiak brakes. from what I have heard 07 they changed the axles. best to call the factory and ask for tech support.
877-596-6505 or 937-596-6111
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Michelle TAC MT-0
Sarah, Snowball 
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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05-09-2007, 10:17 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2007 27' International CCD FB
Everett
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 378
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Michelle…Yes?? I’m asking if the Actibrake electro-hydraulic disc brake system is the standard brakes on a new unit. Please forgive my ignorance. By the way…I just love your web site!!!
Bill
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05-09-2007, 10:41 AM
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Rivet Master 
Vintage Kin Owner
1977 31' Excella 500
Berkeley Springs
, West Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,638
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Dexter
I looked at some new classics at Safford RV in VA a few weeks ago. They used the Actibrake controller with Dexter disk brakes. You could see "Dexter" right on the caliper through the spokes of the mags. I would assume then that they also had Dexter axles, although I'd heard that Airstream was going back to Henschen.
Last year when I visited Jackson Center, they had Kodiak brakes on them.
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05-09-2007, 11:35 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2007 27' International CCD FB
Everett
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 378
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Michelle…so sorry!!! I didn’t see your second post. It landed on the page brake. Thanks for your answer, bottom line, I’ll wait for the controller until I buy the trailer. Thanks Jim for your input as well.
Bill
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05-09-2007, 11:41 AM
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Rivet Master 
2007 30' Classic
Hernando
, Mississippi
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Just bought a new 30'Classic and a Prodigy controller (yes it is recommended by A/S and Tekonsha states it is a new model that is compatible with the actibrake system). Works fine. I, too, had a 'hot' brake smell the first outing, which I contributed to new brakes and the fact that I was experimenting with different boost settings. Tires and brake discs were no hotter than the tires/brakes on my truck. Next trip was fine, no fooling with the controller, no smell.
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Rgds,
Scott
Air 16426
Fully retired now!
Remember:
Never start anything before noon and always plan on being finished by 5.
I will never HAVE to be anywhere ever again!
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05-09-2007, 09:08 PM
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More than one rivet loose

Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
, New Mexico
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Thank you.
I am pretty sure they are still using kodiaks but I was told they switched back to Henchens (sp?). Best to give them a call.
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Sarah, Snowball 
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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