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Old 09-13-2006, 08:49 AM   #81
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What are the opinions on the somewhat older Tekonsha models like the Voyager or Envoy? I can easily get a Ford harnessed version to fit my 97 F250.
Is there a difference worth the extra money to get a Prodigy?
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:12 AM   #82
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Interesting. the forums lost a post.

Randy, the point is that these all sense pedal depression. Most by using an existing mechanism, the brake lights. The Jordan by its pedal sensor.
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:15 AM   #83
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The problem with the new disc brake systems is probably that the pumps on them detect voltage while most brake controllers are used to supplying current. The better controllers also provided a pulsing current which the hydraulic pumps do not like.

The Voyager and Envoy are, I think, in essence just dumber versions of the Prodigy.
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:28 AM   #84
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What are the opinions on the somewhat older Tekonsha models like the Voyager or Envoy? I can easily get a Ford harnessed version to fit my 97 F250.
Is there a difference worth the extra money to get a Prodigy?
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I have had both and much prefer the Prodigy

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Old 09-13-2006, 09:56 AM   #85
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gracias,,,I will shell out the extra $$$
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Old 09-13-2006, 06:57 PM   #86
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Brake controller

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Old 09-13-2006, 11:57 PM   #87
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I See Only One Memberis Viewing This Thread...that May Be Be...first Time At This Site...trying To Help Friend That Has A2005 F250 Crew Cab,8ft Bed C.ol Diesel/auto And Is Having Trouble With The ''tow Command System'' Has Towend His Trailer And Two Different Brand New Ones And The Warning Light Is Constantly Coming On Saying ''check Trailer Or If It Touched The Brake Pedal ''trailer Fault'' Shows On Dash. Ford Dealer Put A New Upgraded Module In The Dash But It Still Does Above. Ford Says The Factory Flue Wire Sends A Pulse To The Magnets In The Brakes Ever Four Seconds...and Is Reading Something Is Wrong...meter Reading Says There Is An ''over Current''. He Has Had His Trailer Completely Rewired And The Two Other Trailers He Towed Were Brand New Units That Had Not Even Been Sold Yet...all Still Had Same Problems. At First These Warnings Would Only Occur Ever Few Hours But Towards The End Of A Trip It Woud Be Ever 15 Seconds For Hours On End....
Any One Else Had/having This Problem With Ford System??? Is There A Better Place For Me To Post
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Old 09-14-2006, 12:07 AM   #88
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Anyone Else Having Trouble With The Factory ''tow Command System'' On A 2005 Ford Ext.cab Lwb 6.0 Diesel Automatic...keep Getting False Alerts ''check Trailer'' And Or ''trailer Failer''
Thanks Vanhouse
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Old 09-14-2006, 12:33 AM   #89
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Well, welcome and speak up friend, we want to hear more about it. Not heard of any problems here. What kind of trailer? My left pinky is sore now.
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Old 09-14-2006, 12:48 AM   #90
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oops...line six in#88 above should say ''factory blue wire''...not ''flue'' wire
plus he has the 6.0 diesel
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Old 09-14-2006, 12:58 AM   #91
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not sure what trailer he personally has...but the new trailers were some of those ?3000 we tax payers bought just to have sitting in some field some where stacked wall to wall where we now have to pay something like $250,000 a month in storage fees because the Gulf Coast doesn't have any place to put them...but thats another story...the ones he transported were picked up in Elkhart Indiana and he delivered them to a storage lot in Florida....maybe the last one went to Alabama...anyway....regardless....His 2005 f250 still had the same glitch on all of them...which would seem to rule out the problem being in the trailer and or trailer wires....everything points to the Ford!!!
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3am VANHOUSE sighning off for now...hope to find some help on the problem tomorrow (later today)....until then...Thanks
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i've had no problems with the tow command system or the integrated brake control'r....

in fact it works so well i'm worried that in 20,000 miles of towing i've not had to touch the system for anything since the initial setup....

now lets see vanhouse....
posting from where they build the superduties...hmmmmmm...

it's not your truck, it's not your trailer....it's a friends?

do the trailer brakes engage?
do the trailers stop?
does the trailer brake lever work?
other than warning lights, what other issues?

at what level is the boost set?

do the trailers have drum or disc brakes?

are airstreams involved in anyway?

so many questions....

perhaps your friend should get on any of the ford forums and discuss this...

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Old 09-14-2006, 09:10 AM   #94
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Two post in 10 minutes at 2:00 am seems like he's in a bit of a hurry to find an answer for his friend.

Anyway, I have towed my Airstream more than 2,000 miles this summer on 6 different trips through a total of 5 different states and so far not a single real incident. Once I got the warning of Trailer Disconnect when I didn't have the umbilical fully secured and stopped to drop of the trash on the way our of the camp ground during pouring rain. As soon as I pushed the plug back in the warning message went away and I haven't seen it since. It really shocked me at first until I realized it meant the lighting harness had come unplugged and not that the hitch had come un-hitched.
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Old 09-14-2006, 09:19 AM   #95
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Fords ''tow Command System''

i've had no problems with the tow command system or the integrated brake control'r....

in fact it works so well i'm worried that in 20,000 miles of towing i've not had to touch the system for anything since the initial setup....

now lets see vanhouse....
posting from where they build the superduties...hmmmmmm...WELL WE BUILT THEM HERE YESTERDAY...I HAVEN'T CHECKED TODAYS PAPER TO SEE IF WE STILL ARE !!!!

it's not your truck, it's not your trailer....it's a friends?...NO,NO AND YES

do the trailer brakes engage? YES
do the trailers stop? YES
does the trailer brake lever work? AS FAR AS I KNOW
other than warning lights, what other issues? NO OTHER ISSUES, BRAKES WORK FINE, TRAILERS STOP FINE...JUST THE WARNING LIGHTS AND BUZZERS THAT ARE DRIVING HIM BONKERS.

at what level is the boost set? WILL HAVE TO ASK

do the trailers have drum or disc brakes? DRUM

are airstreams involved in anyway? THEY ARE PARKED NEAR BY

so many questions....

perhaps your friend should get on any of the ford forums and discuss this...WILL TRY THEM TOO...JUST THOUGHT SOMEONE HERE MIGHT HAVE RUN INTO THE SAME PROBLEM...GLAD YOU HAVE NOT...

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Old 09-14-2006, 09:55 PM   #96
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Does anyone have experience installing a Prodigy in a ’98 or earlier GMC/Chevy? It seems that ’99 and up were plug-n-play, but not prior years.

I’ve got it in place, mounting bracket installed.
Blue wire hooked to Blue (trailer brakes).
Black wire hooked to Battery (via a 30 AMP auto-resetting breaker).
White wire to Ground.
The Red wire is where I’m running into the problem. This is supposed to be hooked to the cold side of the brake pedal (voltage only when brake pedal is pushed). I’ve read my GMC manual, read my Haynes manual, and either can’t figure out where to hook it in, or just plain can’t get to it. The brake pedal switch is completely inaccessible – I can see it, and I can touch it, but there’s no way I can remove it to figure out which wire, let alone tap into it and put it back in place.

Is there a simple solution?
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:17 AM   #97
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Do you have a U-Haul dealer or other hitch shop near you, Great Pumpkin? They might be able to tell you/show you. If that is the only step left, they might finish it for free or very little cost. Wish I could help, but my 05' F-250 came with the factory brake controler and IIRC, it is a Prodogy product manufactured specifically for Ford. Either way, I love it.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:17 AM   #98
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I've had no problems with the function of my Prodigy. So far I'm very pleased. I also had a ModuLite installed because I was concerned about tow and trickle charge draw through skimpy gauge TV wiring (http://www.reese-hitches.com/electrical/modulite.htm). One note of caution about these installations. This week I found that the business that installed my stuff ran the wiring too close to the vehicle exhaust. The insullation has melted and I'm left with the possiblity of shorting out. I'm headed back today to get it fixed.
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Ooooo! Sugarfoot, I'm glad you found this out before it resulted in no brakes on the road...or is that how you found out?
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Ooooo! Sugarfoot, I'm glad you found this out before it resulted in no brakes on the road...or is that how you found out?
It looks like that modulite device provides power strictly for the trailer lights, and doesn't involve the braking system at all
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