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Old 05-28-2015, 08:05 AM   #1
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Valve Stems....Metal or Rubber?

I'm putting 16" wheels and tires on my 2007, 30' Classic and have been told the rubber stems with metal inside are just as good as the solid metal ones. Some say the metal ones can leak at the tightening nut, which has happened on my current ones.
I run with TST TPMS and they have told me the newer units are light enough to go on rubber without any issues.

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Old 05-28-2015, 08:09 AM   #2
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I have the TST TPMS on my Sendel 16" with Michelins and I use the metal stems. I have experienced no leakage problems.

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Old 05-28-2015, 08:11 AM   #3
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If you are using externals TST recommends all metal stems. Had mine done at Discount Tire. Think it cost about $30 to pull all four tires, new metal stems, put on the TST units and then had the tires spin balanced. Tech commented on the amount of weight that was needed to do the balance.
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:21 AM   #4
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With the issues I've seen with the rubber stems, it would be a good idea to use the metal stems.
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:27 AM   #5
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I have a new TST TPMS system. I recently replaced all my stems with all metal ones based on the recommendation of the company and reading several reports of rubber stem failure.
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:03 AM   #6
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Metal shorties so the sensor doesn't extend beyond the plane of the tire. You don't want the sensor sticking out in the danger zone where it could get bumped.

BTW, a tire shop can mount new stems without having to completely unmount the tire.
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:33 AM   #7
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My rims would not take the all metal stems so the shop used rubber ones that have metal inside. That was 5 years and over 45,000 miles without a problem.
My anecdotal evidence. I carry several extra stems just in case I should need one on the road.
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:40 AM   #8
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I recently went to Discount Tire to have this done. However, they charged me $16 per tire.

The valve they used was a Dill VS-902-W with the following specifications:0.453″ valve hole,1.44″ effective length. A tad longer than I wojuld have preferred but the TST sensors are still well within the outside plane of the tire. Gary (ghaynes755) who responded above told me that is what was installed for him.

Airstream parts called me back after a several week search on their end with the following part number they recommend: 410987-101. Can't verify if and how it fits.


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Old 05-28-2015, 01:22 PM   #9
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Good discussion. Need to install a system on our 1999 30' Land Yacht. What criteria, or better yet, what system should I look at?
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:04 PM   #10
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I don't use tpms on any thing. I use metal stems on every thing but automobile, rubber stem will cause problems when used with high tire air pressure, plus most tire shops recommend metal these applications.
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Lost two rubber valve stems. Replaces with metal, no more problem
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:22 PM   #12
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Medal stems don't cause any problems because of high pressure, my kenworth has metal stems on alumium wheels and they have 120 lbs of Air pressure...
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:34 PM   #13
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Medal stems don't cause any problems because of high pressure, my kenworth has metal stems on alumium wheels and they have 120 lbs of Air pressure...
This is what I stated metal stems for high pressure and construction equip. We also use them on our peterbuilts with all aluminum wheels, pick ups flat beds etc. every thing but cars. Have had many problems w/rubber stems before installing metal stems, problems now solved.
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I'm putting 16" wheels and tires on my 2007, 30' Classic and have been told the rubber stems with metal inside are just as good as the solid metal ones. Some say the metal ones can leak at the tightening nut, which has happened on my current ones.
I run with TST TPMS and they have told me the newer units are light enough to go on rubber without any issues.

Your thoughts....

Thanx
Metal stems have rubber grommet ie washer inside rim [not thru hole] that nut tightens down on making tite seal unless installed wrong. Rubber stems w/metal inside as plain rubber stems are pull thru no nuts to tighten
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Old 05-28-2015, 04:18 PM   #15
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When using metal stems, do NOT use any type of full diameter hubcap that has the stem go through for access with hubcap in place. Nuts will loosen on the metal stems because hubcap will WALK around rim and put pressure against the stem continuously causing leakage at speed and when loose enough the tire will flatten. I tried to zip-tie the hubcap to stop this phenomenon but couldn't keep this from happening; went to aluminum rims with short metal stems. PROBLEM SOLVED.
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Given the choice, metal.
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Old 05-28-2015, 05:22 PM   #17
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metal for sure...

Between the mice that like to chew on the rubber stems,, along with the times we are pulling mud rim deep that tares rubber stems off like you cant believe. I use metal stems on everything.

If your going with TPM system,, then you will have to spend a little more money but I think long term you will be ahead... The stock TPMS on my TV lasted 20,000 miles before they rattled apart..

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Some high pressure stems are rubber.

Metal caps with o-ring gasket worth having. Helps seal against valve leakage.

On big truck I use double seal extensions. German made.

Both of these from big truck tire shops, if wanted.
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I have used PressurePRo for eight summers including a trip to Alaska for 12,000 miles no problems. However, my dog did chew up one.
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My rims would not take the all metal stems so the shop used rubber ones that have metal inside. That was 5 years and over 45,000 miles without a problem.
My anecdotal evidence. I carry several extra stems just in case I should need one on the road.
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I would suggest that the reason your rim would not accept the metal stem available at the tire store was because they did not have a more complete selection of bolt in valves. Rim hole diameter has a couple of standards for ID and metal thickness. Never found a rim where there wasn't a standard bolt in available for it.

Don't forget that the rubber in the valve ages just like the rubber in the tires. Your "extra" stems need to be kept is cool dry location or they will be more likely to fail if used in the future.
Can't imagine situation where you would need or use a rubber stem on the road. DO you change your own tires?
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