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08-05-2018, 02:25 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 30' Classic
Bothell
, Washington
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 200
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Rotation of Tires
We have a 2018 Classic and full-timing around the country.
1. How often are you supposed to rotate tires (10,000 miles)?
2. What is the tire rotation pattern (Same side switch front and back)?
3. How do you safely rotate the tires?
Thanks,
Chuck
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08-05-2018, 02:42 PM
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#2
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Here you go
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08-05-2018, 04:39 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 30' Classic
Cumberland
, Maryland
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 335
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Excellent info! I would also like to ask if there is any special nut or tool that is needed to remove the tires? I was told buy a fellow Airstreamer that when he took it to get inspected they couldn't get the tires off and he ended up going back to the dealer. I think he said it was a special nut? Anyway I never heard of anything like that and the tire lug nuts look standard. I have to get our 2018 Classic inspected is why I'm asking.
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08-05-2018, 07:33 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 30' Classic
Bothell
, Washington
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 200
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GMFL,
Thanks. Thought that was what I read in the manual.
Do you use the spare to rotate one at a time or jack up the side and do both at once? Little concerned about the safety factor of two a once.
Chuck
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08-05-2018, 07:38 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Mine take 3/4” socket. I jack up one side at a time from under the rear axle with a floor jack.
Re-torque lug nuts to 110 ft/lbs
I do not rotate the spare in
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08-05-2018, 07:44 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
New Borockton
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,593
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
Mine take 3/4” socket. I jack up one side at a time from under the rear axle with a floor jack.
Re-torque lug nuts to 110 ft/lbs
I do not rotate the spare in
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That's the way I've always done it too. The spare never gets added to the rotation.
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08-05-2018, 09:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Spokane
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,858
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
Mine take 3/4” socket. I jack up one side at a time from under the rear axle with a floor jack.
Re-torque lug nuts to 110 ft/lbs
I do not rotate the spare in
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Uh, I always was led to believe that you should never jack up the trailer using an axle. Am I misreading this?
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08-05-2018, 09:40 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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The axles hold the weight of the trailer when it is on its tires, so should not be a problem. I place floor jack under axle where it attaches to the frame. All Good.
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08-06-2018, 12:35 AM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,118
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Do you really need to rotate trailer tires? I personally do not and with my rig it works just fine with no unusual wear. I do replace the tires every 4 years for age and have not seen worn tread. I would watch the first set and see how they wear.
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08-07-2018, 09:22 PM
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Journeyman
2016 25' International
Amherst
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 956
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
The axles hold the weight of the trailer when it is on its tires, so should not be a problem. I place floor jack under axle where it attaches to the frame. All Good.
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NOT GOOD. Don't do this!
While it is true that axles support the trailer when it's on the ground, when you jack by the "axles" you are actually pushing up on the metal box that CONTAINS the axles--not the axles themselves. Deform that box and you're in trouble.
Use the jack points (clearly labeled!) for the trailer. If you leave the trailer attached to your TV, you can easily jack it up and pull both tires simultaneously.
Don't jack on your axles!
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08-10-2018, 12:59 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 30' Classic
Bothell
, Washington
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 200
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So, would a 5 or 6 ton bottle jack due? Full timing, we can carry around a floor jack.
I’m a little nervous about bottle jacking up the entire side of the trailer and taking off both tires.
Would you also want to support with jack stands? But where would you put those under the trailer!
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08-10-2018, 01:41 PM
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Wheels Itch)(Must Travel
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
- east coastal area -
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 683
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airhead2018
Excellent info! I would also like to ask if there is any special nut or tool that is needed to remove the tires? I was told buy a fellow Airstreamer that when he took it to get inspected they couldn't get the tires off and he ended up going back to the dealer. I think he said it was a special nut? Anyway I never heard of anything like that and the tire lug nuts look standard. I have to get our 2018 Classic inspected is why I'm asking.
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Ours is a 2015 FC 25’- we just had new tires put on and found out we had two-piece lugs- aluminum cap over steel - and several had split and started to rust. I had all of them changed to solid one piece lugs.
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08-10-2018, 02:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,653
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airhead2018
I would also like to ask if there is any special nut or tool that is needed to remove the tires? I was told buy a fellow Airstreamer that when he took it to get inspected they couldn't get the tires off
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Mine, 2017 FC, has solid nuts (no covers) and uses a 13/16" socket. However, a lug wrench won't fit because the machined aluminum rims have the nuts recessed in cutouts, so I needed a 13/16" thin wall deep socket to get them off. I also added a 3" extension and my Harbor Freight breaker bar to the tool collection under the rear seat.
Quote:
Originally Posted by charlesk
So, would a 5 or 6 ton bottle jack due? Full timing, we can carry around a floor jack.
I’m a little nervous about bottle jacking up the entire side of the trailer and taking off both tires.
Would you also want to support with jack stands? But where would you put those under the trailer!
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A bottle jack will be fine. I have a floor jack too but it weighs 90 pounds, so I don't bring it on trips.
You may want to carry a square of plywood too. I use the frame rails that the axles attach to. If they're strong enough to support the trailer bouncing down the road they should support the trailer on a jack! Yes, I used jack stands too, but they never ended up touching the rail. (because the jack didn't sag.)
I know Airstream puts the "Jack" logo under the belly pan, supposedly where the frame is but there's plumbing and gas lines there and it requires you to lay on the ground to see under there. Thats not always practical on the side of the road in the rain.
The other advantage of a bottle jack is it does not scootch forward as it raises, like a floor jack does. Floor jacks don't work well on gravel or dirt.
Make sure it fits under your chosen jack point, especially if the tire is flat.......and last but not least, you'll like the bottle jack when your tongue jack fails.
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