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Old 10-07-2021, 10:12 AM   #121
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Yes… I saw that the other day and thought the same thing but I was waiting for someone else to bring it to light.... what's up?

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European C rated.

It's the higher load rating of the two that Michelin makes. US rating is a 121R. Pretty much the highest rated tires that will fit.

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Old 10-08-2021, 05:27 AM   #122
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Yes… I saw that the other day and thought the same thing but I was waiting for someone else to bring it to light.... what's up?

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What's up is that there is an unusual occurrence between LT type tires and C type tires - allow me to explain.

The standard for LT tires is set up by the US based Tire and Rim Association. In Europe, they have a different organization that sets up tire standards - ETRTO (European Tyre and Rim Technical Organization). ETRTO doesn't use the letters LT - they use the letter "C" at the end of the tire dimensions (what we generally refer to as "size".) and they use "C" type tires for tires that go on small trucks (think minitrucks!) to Over-the-Road 18 wheeler type stuff. It covers a large range.

LT tires use Load Ranges (C, D, E, etc.) where C type tires use Load Index (Indices). C type tires do NOT use Load Range.

Most of the time, the differences between LT type tires and C type tires is small enough to ignore. BUT in the 225/75R16 "size", there is a high Load Index C type tire (kind of equivalent to an LT E Load Range) that has a remarkably higher Load Carrying capacity than its equivalent LT E Load Range.

That is what is going on.

A word of caution: In this area, one has to be very precise about the language and how things are phrased. This is an example of why.
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Old 10-08-2021, 07:00 AM   #123
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What's up is that there is an unusual occurrence between LT type tires and C type tires - allow me to explain.

The standard for LT tires is set up by the US based Tire and Rim Association. In Europe, they have a different organization that sets up tire standards - ETRTO (European Tyre and Rim Technical Organization). ETRTO doesn't use the letters LT - they use the letter "C" at the end of the tire dimensions (what we generally refer to as "size".) and they use "C" type tires for tires that go on small trucks (think minitrucks!) to Over-the-Road 18 wheeler type stuff. It covers a large range.

LT tires use Load Ranges (C, D, E, etc.) where C type tires use Load Index (Indices). C type tires do NOT use Load Range.

Most of the time, the differences between LT type tires and C type tires is small enough to ignore. BUT in the 225/75R16 "size", there is a high Load Index C type tire (kind of equivalent to an LT E Load Range) that has a remarkably higher Load Carrying capacity than its equivalent LT E Load Range.

That is what is going on.

A word of caution: In this area, one has to be very precise about the language and how things are phrased. This is an example of why.
Thank's again CR...👍

Just happy we live in 'merica where everything is so perfectly clear that nobody can make a mistake in their tire purchasing adventure.🥴

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Old 10-09-2021, 07:45 AM   #124
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Bottom line is that the lower rated version is $5 to $10 less per tire than the higher rated one. Given what the tires cost plus local install, that wasn't even roundoff error on the bill.

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Old 11-11-2021, 02:11 PM   #125
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Swapped out my Michelin LT225/75R16 LTX M/S2 (5 yrs old) for same size & rating Agilis @ Discount Tire -- just returned from 1,400 mile trip -- so far so good.

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Old 11-12-2021, 07:10 AM   #126
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The ones on the trailer seem to be happy sitting over in storage

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