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Old 04-12-2021, 11:16 AM   #1
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Need new trailer tires

Greetings,

My trailer tires are aging out and I need to get new ones. I will be retiring soon, which means I may actually use the tires up before they age out for once.

I was thinking of replacing my much maligned Marathons (never had an issue), with the new Endurance tires from Goodyear. But Airstream recently announced an agreement with Michelin tires to provide discounts on their tires (or something like that).

My questions:

Are the Michelins "Trailer tires"?
If they are not trailer tires why would I want them?
If they are trailer tires are they considered better than the Endurances?

I thought trailer tires were made differently so they can take the turning, something about the sidewall.

My trailer is an '07 Safari 27 FB, I am hoping you folks can straighten me out once again.

Thanks,

Pat
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Old 04-12-2021, 11:38 AM   #2
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The Michelins are LT truck tires; they're fine for use for an Airstream.... *IF* they have your size.

The replacement for the Marathon, the Goodyear Endurance, is a good tire, is much better than the Marathon was.

You can get the Endurance in 14" and 15" sizes. (ie, mine are 225/75R15).

Michelin doesn't have an LT in a 15" size, you have to have 16" wheels to use a Michelin tire. (Endurance is available in a 16" too).

So, I'd say it depends on what your wheel size is: if you happen to have 16" wheels, you can opt for Michelins, but if you have 14" or 15", you'll go with the Endurance (unless you want to buy new wheels).
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Old 04-12-2021, 12:01 PM   #3
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The Goodyear Endurance is a good tire for the 15" Airstream wheels. The drawback, if you travel many miles, is that they will wear out before the 4 to 6 year period where they begin to dry out when left sitting for long periods. The tread depth for Endurance tires is 7/32" where as many LT tires are 15/32". My Endurance tires are down to 3/32" after only 3 1/2 years and need to be replaced.


Some have gone to the Nokian LT235-75-R15 AT tires and have left good reports. I may try them out. Do not see the need to buy 16" wheels to accommodate Michelin tires.
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Old 04-12-2021, 12:03 PM   #4
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Just buy the new Endurance tires in the proper size and do not worry further.
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Old 04-13-2021, 09:31 AM   #5
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Go GYE on your 15" wheels they are "E" rated - we have them and are happy...
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Old 04-13-2021, 09:32 AM   #6
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Well OK then, guess since my wheels are 15" I will go with the Endurance. Bummer about the tread depth though.
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Old 04-13-2021, 09:36 AM   #7
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Take a look at Carlisle tires
They have a load range E that are highly recommended
Max pressure is 80 psi. I run 65 for my 7000 lb 25 ft
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Old 04-13-2021, 09:40 AM   #8
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With your trailer I think your 2 choices are the 15" GY Endurance or to switch to 16" wheels and open up a whole range of tires. I doubt if there are 15" P or LT tires available that will carry the necessary weight rating. I am one of the guys that runs different tires than ST tires on 15" rims. But...I can do it because my trailer is relatively light weight and I have about a 25% margin on rating.
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Hey Pat -

You might want to check out the Maxxis Trailer ST - which are considered better than GYE or GYM, & equal to Carlisle; or alternatively their Light Truck LT tires - whichever flavor you prefer.

They were recommended by Uwe Salwender of Area 63 Productions who restores Airstreams, if you want another recco:

http://www.area63productions.com/

I believe in using ST tires on trailers as they were designed for, but also use their LT tires on our 1988 VW Westfalia - which has extra stresses on tires being a high profile narrow track vehicle. Both applications are better than were the prior OEM Michelins for the Westy, & the GYM on the Avion.

ST Trailer Tires:
https://www.maxxis.com/catalog/tire-...t-radial-m8008

LT Truck Tires:
https://www.maxxis.com/catalog/tire-...eries-ue-168-n

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Old 04-13-2021, 10:40 AM   #10
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Tire ply

I would recommend you purchase a minimum of 8 ply tires, ten would be the best. I had blow outs with 4 and 6 ply tires and the 8 ply are holding their own.
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HANKOOK has just introduced a line of trailer specific tires. just read about them , no further info.
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Old 04-13-2021, 05:40 PM   #12
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My 2012 Eddie Bauer came with Michelin LT and I replaced them with the Hankook run flats, they have a Kevlar sidewall-same tread and basic tire that I have on my F350. So far, Iím loving them, towing through snow last November-AWESOME!
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Old 04-13-2021, 07:41 PM   #13
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Greetings,



My trailer tires are aging out and I need to get new ones. I will be retiring soon, which means I may actually use the tires up before they age out for once.



I was thinking of replacing my much maligned Marathons (never had an issue), with the new Endurance tires from Goodyear. But Airstream recently announced an agreement with Michelin tires to provide discounts on their tires (or something like that).



My questions:



Are the Michelins "Trailer tires"?

If they are not trailer tires why would I want them?

If they are trailer tires are they considered better than the Endurances?



I thought trailer tires were made differently so they can take the turning, something about the sidewall.



My trailer is an '07 Safari 27 FB, I am hoping you folks can straighten me out once again.



Thanks,



Pat


This is a subject that has been covered at length in other threads, but Iíll provide a few facts.

1. Older Airstreams came from the factory with bias ply LT tires.
2. I donít know when ST tires were introduced, but they seem to be heavier versions of older passenger tire designs with stiffer sidewalls, etc.
3. Many people donít like ST tires because they are perceived to be of lower quality than LTs and P-metric tires. E.g. blowouts, and the need to add air frequently.
4. Michelin doesnít build ST tires. However, many people have very successfully used Michelin LTs on trailers. They formerly made LTs in 15 inch sizes.
5. The Goodyear Endurance is everything that most trailer owners need. Finally, a reliable trailer tire that holds air like a normal tire and is rated for more than 65 mph (I believe itís 87mph/140km/h).
6. There are some European commercial tires in 15 inch sizes that would be suitable. The aforementioned Nokians and Continental Vancos are two examples.
7. Your tandem axle trailer allows you a range of options because a capacity of 2000 lbs per tire should give you plenty of margin.

Iíve got opinions too, but I think Iíve succeeded at relating facts!
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HANKOOK has just introduced a line of trailer specific tires. just read about them , no further info.
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Hankook site provides minimal info about any of their tires, further info required to read about them.
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Old 04-13-2021, 08:30 PM   #15
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we went with Michelins LT tires and went +1 in size to 16"

never had any issues
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I wanted to move to 16Ē wheels but Sendel T-03 were unavailable. All Sendel were unavailable. They wouldnít even give Discount Tire an availability date. Second choice wasnít designed for metal valve stems. I absolutely needed to replace six-year-old GYMs so I stayed with the 15Ē wheels and GYE. Bought them at Discount Tire. Manufacture dates were February or later for a mid April 2021 purchase date.

DT lost two TPMS caps which I wanted to be on the tire when balancing it. So they gave me cash for the replacements and refunded me one tire for the trouble. I was a bit bummed about the mistake but they really did me right with the correction.
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DT goes out of their way to make transactions right. I bet I have bought a 100 tires from them over the decades. And it doesn't hurt they are in my back yard.

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ON My 2nd set of GYE's

I replaced my OEM 15 In Good Year Marathons in 2017 with 15 in GYE's and just replaced the right sides this year with 2 more GYE's after 4 years and 33,000 miles, with 3/32 left on the tread.

The left sides are still going strong with 5/32 left. Will replace them next year.

I rotate front to back on same sides annually.

I experienced one puncture due to a nail around 28,000 miles but the tire held air with a slow leak until I could get it off and repaired. Tire pressure monitoring system tipped me off to the leak.
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DT goes out of their way to make transactions right. I bet I have bought a 100 tires from them over the decades. And it doesn't hurt they are in my back yard.

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Yes! Thatís the another great thing about DT...they are almost always in your backyard no matter where you are.
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Old 04-18-2021, 10:45 AM   #20
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Goodyear Endurance

I replaced our Marathons with Goodyear Endurance ST225/75R15 Radial Trailer Tires - Load Range E (load ea tire at 80PSI is 2830), max speed is 87MPH. JC did the work (about 90 mins from our home).

Several had recommended I go with a 16" light truck tire. JC said they could certainly do that with new rims, but I would have about an inch clearance, which I thought was insufficient. A lift kit could correct that.

That's a lot of money to go with LT tires, and the Endurance was rated very highly. Mine were made in Fayetteville, NC (USA).

I also had the wheel bearings inspected as well as the brakes inspected and tested. I also have the TST TPMS and made sure that steel valve stems were supplied.

GY Endurance trailer tires should be a good fit for you unless you want to spend a lot more money on rims and potentially a lift kit.
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