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Old 10-01-2020, 05:20 PM   #1
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Michelin Agilis Cross Climate or Defender LTX

Help me decide...

Now that my OEM Ford accessory Trailer TPMS kit has arrived (after 6-mos of b/o), I'm ready to replace/purchase some new tires and have narrowed my choices down to either of the following.

Seeking input from others here in the AS-forum before I commit; particularly those who have some "run time" experience with any of these.

Michelin Agilis Cross Climate
Type: Commercial Highway All Season
Size: LT225/75/R16
Part # 72022
Max. Load: 2,680@90psi
Max. Tire Pres: 90psi
Rating/Ply: E/10
L/S Rating: 115/112R
OTD: 29.3" (diameter)
Mileage Warranty: Commercial 1-yr., prorated
Tread Depth:12.5


Michelin Agilis Cross Climate (C)
Type:Commercial Highway All Season (Directional Tread)
Size: 225/75/R16C
Part # 70411
Max. Load: 3,193@83psi
Max. Tire Pres.: 83psi
Rating/Ply: E/10
L/S Rating: 121/120R
OTD: 29.3" (diameter)
Mileage Warranty: Commercial 1-yr. prorated
Tread Depth: 11.5


Michelin Defender M/S LTX*
Type: Truck SUV All Season
Size: LT225/75/R16
Max. Load: 2,680@80psi
Max Tire Pres: 80psi
Rating/Ply: E/10
L/S Rating: 115/112R
OTD: 29.2" (diameter)
Mileage Warranty: 70k, prorated
Tread Depth: 13.5
*Former LTX M/S2, and OE supplied on my Airstream Classic M30.
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Old 10-01-2020, 06:06 PM   #2
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I don't think you can get the Defenders in that size anymore.
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Old 10-01-2020, 07:06 PM   #3
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No more defenders...they dropped them. 72022..would be the replacement...
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Old 10-02-2020, 03:59 AM   #4
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I don't think you can get the Defenders in that size anymore.
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Larry & TJ,

It appears you are both correct.

My having included them in the list was based upon my having earlier checked on availability 3-4 months ago and ahead of changing my tires while awaiting for my Ford dealer to fulfill a backorder of the add-on TPMS sensor kit for my 2019 F250 of which I just recieved. Now, I'm seeing, as you state that the Defender is no longer available in that size.

Guess my only option with Michelin will be to go with the Agilis but now may resume considering other major domestic brands as well (i.e. made in the USA or CAN).

Thanks for the feedback.
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Old 10-02-2020, 04:31 AM   #5
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People on the forum are reporting that they like the Agilis but I refused to buy Michelins without a history of USA reviews. I had a bad experience in the past with a new release by Michelin.
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Old 10-02-2020, 07:23 AM   #6
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All good choices for the TV...

We use GYE's on "Cloudesplitter"

The E rated 16" would work well on your 30' If you ck the dimensions this may be a good option.

Disclaimer.....I'm biased.(like my 7:10 Firestones)

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Old 10-02-2020, 08:13 AM   #7
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We have :
Tv: Michelin 255/45r20 Cross climate suv
AS: Michelin LT225/75R16 Defender LTX MS

We have used that combo for the last 18 months

Check out tirerack for reviews and other tire sites
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Old 10-02-2020, 09:38 AM   #8
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I have the below tires as OE from Airstream. I also installed the Ford TPMS. I modified the Ford TPMS cable, by removing the camera section of the cable and properly terminating the cable. Zero Problems after 8K miles. I find the TPMS sensors on the Airstream more accurate the the Ford TPMS sensors in the TV!

Michelin Defender M/S LTX
Type: Truck SUV All Season
Size: LT225/75/R16
Max. Load: 2,680@80psi
Max Tire Pres: 80psi
Rating/Ply: E/10
L/S Rating: 115/112R
OTD: 29.2" (diameter)
Mileage Warranty: 70k, prorated
Tread Depth: 13.5
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Old 10-02-2020, 09:56 AM   #9
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I have the Part # 72022. Bought at CostCo with $110 discount off same starting price at Discount Tire. They also give free 5 year tire hazard warranty compared to Discount Tires 3 year which costs extra. Free rotations as well.

But haven't had them long enough to comment much on reliability. But any LT tire HAS to be better than poorly made ST's.
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I have the Part # 72022. Bought at CostCo with $110 discount off same starting price at Discount Tire. They also give free 5 year tire hazard warranty compared to Discount Tires 3 year which costs extra. Free rotations as well.

But haven't had them long enough to comment much on reliability. But any LT tire HAS to be better than poorly made ST's.
I bought my Michelins from Tire Rack, over $100 cheaper than Costco or Discount Tires.
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Old 10-02-2020, 11:27 AM   #11
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Make sure you buy from Discount Tires. Currently on the road in CO, got steel bar into TV front tire. Went to local Discount Tire, they declared the tire un-repairable and ordered me a replacement. Came in two days later, and they only charged me $18 bucks for a new replacement!!

Dont know for sure, but they seem to have stores in most states, maybe nationwide?
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Old 10-03-2020, 05:46 AM   #12
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Purchased the LT225/75R-16 MICHELIN AGILIS CROSSCLIMATE SYMMETRICAL TREAD, Pattern E10, online from Tire Rack. 5 ea. for $1078.90 total to include Michelin Road Hazard Protection ($104.50 value. Two-year coverage) at no additional charge and with free shipping.

Before finalizing my purchase, I also called and spoke with one of the Distribution specialist that after placing me on a brief hold and contacting their distribution warehouse (in Shreveport, LA), guaranteed me that the tires I will receive within the next 2-days will not have a DOT date stamp of anything less than week 26 of 2020 (i.e. 2620).

I have my own "installer guy" who will mount them as well as install the new Ford TPMS sensors and road force balance on all 5 tires for less than $100.00.

I just have to juggle the tires in for installation as I do not want to trust anyone to jack up the Airstream (unsupervised by owner) and would prefer to do that myself. Plus I can ensure the wheel lug torque (110 ft-lbf) is correct.
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