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05-31-2020, 11:34 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 16' Sport
St. Louis
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Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 218
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Fred, thanks for sharing the comments from tire rack. The pictures look very similar to mine. Seems like nothing to worry about.
Thanks again
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05-31-2020, 11:39 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Thanks for the update. You might want to give your mechanic some feedback IMO.
Great link, Fred, thanks.
Peter
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sport 16 STL
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. . . mechanic, non airstream, said there are bulges on the sidewalks.
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05-31-2020, 11:42 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Ravenna
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
Have any photos?
Bob
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These are normal,15k SFSG....
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Bulge (out) is not the same as depression (in)
I believe the right tire is a depression left tire not as easy to see.
Try laying straight edge across to confirm in IN or Out.
Out should be replaced IMO
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05-31-2020, 11:46 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Ravenna
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,344
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I have two posts on my blog about Bulges (out) along with tire Autopsy showing the real reason for the bulge.
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05-31-2020, 03:31 PM
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Mike from Canmore
2018 27' Flying Cloud
Calgary
, Alberta
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 234
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n2916s
All of mine have “dimples” where, I assume” the belts meet. Totally normal.
Roll it by a tire shop...
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Ditto. When the sun is just grazing the sidewalls, I see some unevenness on mine as well. Unless they are big, obvious bulges, I expect they are OK.
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05-31-2020, 04:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
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Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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06-01-2020, 04:50 AM
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CapriRacer
I'm in the
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 991
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And just to be a bit pedantic:
It isn't the belt overlap that you are seeing - It's the PLY overlap. The belts are only under the tread.
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06-01-2020, 06:59 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CapriRacer
And just to be a bit pedantic:
It isn't the belt overlap that you are seeing - It's the PLY overlap. The belts are only under the tread.
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Sorry, brain fart.
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06-01-2020, 07:10 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Crystal River
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 474
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CapriRacer
And just to be a bit pedantic:
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Sometimes pedantic is a good thing.
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06-02-2020, 07:53 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Ravenna
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CapriRacer
And just to be a bit pedantic:
It isn't the belt overlap that you are seeing - It's the PLY overlap. The belts are only under the tread.
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Gee Barry, You going all technical on us?
Next thing you know we will be talking about Flippers, Wedges, Fillers, Squeegees, skims and dip.
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06-02-2020, 09:05 AM
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Rivet Master
2009 34' Panamerica
2005 28' Classic
Still
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 677
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I just picked up some Endurance LR E tires this past weekend and mounted them.
Looking at the outgoing Maxxis LR E tires, these seem like they have slightly less tread on them also compared to a spare I had that was still a Marathon, but honestly, last tires (Maxxis) I had on the rig for 7 years.
Maybe some of it is luck, maybe care, but I do keep my tires covered when outside and not rolling. I put armor all on the sides and I keep inflated to proper levels. I have the rims balanced and run centramatics on each hub.
Outgoing tires had about 15-18k on them. One note was that one of the curbside shock mounts was slightly bent and rubbing on the frame. I was a bit perplexed how that could have happened to just one mount, but not related to tires....will keep an eye on it.
One last thing I wanted to say was thanks a bunch for all these great posts on tires. I particularly want to thank tireman for all his great insights. Many of the points made here I have adopted over the years and I attribute as part of the reason why I haven't had to replace a blown tire (yet).
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06-03-2020, 08:10 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Ravenna
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by panamerican
I just picked up some Endurance LR E tires this past weekend and mounted them.
Looking at the outgoing Maxxis LR E tires, these seem like they have slightly less tread on them also compared to a spare I had that was still a Marathon, but honestly, last tires (Maxxis) I had on the rig for 7 years.
Maybe some of it is luck, maybe care, but I do keep my tires covered when outside and not rolling. I put armor all on the sides and I keep inflated to proper levels. I have the rims balanced and run centramatics on each hub.
Outgoing tires had about 15-18k on them. One note was that one of the curbside shock mounts was slightly bent and rubbing on the frame. I was a bit perplexed how that could have happened to just one mount, but not related to tires....will keep an eye on it.
One last thing I wanted to say was thanks a bunch for all these great posts on tires. I particularly want to thank tireman for all his great insights. Many of the points made here I have adopted over the years and I attribute as part of the reason why I haven't had to replace a blown tire (yet).
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Thanks, but don't forget CapriRacer, the other tire engineer who keeps me honest so I don't drag everyone down the rabbit hold of Engineer Speak and technical minutia. He has a nice web site while I have a Blog. We each took a different approach to trying to help the RV community, but if you look you will see that the two sites compliment each other
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06-03-2020, 09:13 AM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,436
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Tip of the cap to Tireman9 and Capriracer for their behind the plies info.
I read their posts.
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06-03-2020, 11:01 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 23' Safari SE
ROSWELL
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 123
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15K+ on a set of 15” Endurance.Thank god I made it through 2 sets of Marathons,before the Endurance came out.All tires have bulges to some extent.I bought Endurance to get a ‘D’ rated tire that I could buy at Sams’s where ever I travel.I just don’t trust the chinese tires.
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06-03-2020, 11:23 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Ann arbor
, Michigan
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 34
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I called Goodyear about this very issue. It is normal.
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06-03-2020, 12:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 1,013
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I also want to thank Tireman9 and Capriracer. Both of you have been extremely helpful. Mind you, I still feel a little uncomfortable having my tires at 80 psi, but I am doing it.
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06-04-2020, 04:33 AM
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CapriRacer
I'm in the
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 991
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DCPAS
I also want to thank Tireman9 and Capriracer. Both of you have been extremely helpful. Mind you, I still feel a little uncomfortable having my tires at 80 psi, but I am doing it.
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So how go you feel about the Space Shuttle's tires being inflated to 340 psi?
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06-04-2020, 06:42 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 1,013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CapriRacer
So how go you feel about the Space Shuttle's tires being inflated to 340 psi?
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165,000 pounds empty vs. 5,900 empty. Pretending for laughs that the tire pressure difference was linear, and ignoring the landing impact load, then I calculate that my tire pressure should be 12.16 psi. Although i guess that would have to be 100% nitrogen.
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06-05-2020, 12:34 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Ravenna
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DCPAS
165,000 pounds empty vs. 5,900 empty. Pretending for laughs that the tire pressure difference was linear, and ignoring the landing impact load, then I calculate that my tire pressure should be 12.16 psi. Although i guess that would have to be 100% nitrogen.
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4 main landing gear tires 44.5x16.0-21, 34 ply, 263 mph
2 nose landing gear tires 32x8.8, 20 ply, 250 mph
But you forget the mileage is probably under 5 miles with the mains only used once.
Could do the math but you probably do not want to pay $thousands for 5 mile use
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06-05-2020, 02:34 PM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Tireman9,
Who made the shuttle tires?
About how thick is the tire tread?
Gary
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