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01-22-2017, 07:50 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Boulder City
, Nevada
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,703
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FLAT TIRE photographs on your Airstream
Many of us have encountered the FLAT tire on your Airstream. I have had a number of tire punctures and nails... but this one was a 'dousy'. All with the Load Range C, 14 inch Marathon. Yes... a true statement.
Since changing brands on our 2006 23 foot Safari... not an issue. The current 16" Michelin Load Range E's on our 2014 International 25 foot... no issues. But... if the occasion of taking a photograph of a 'special event' occurs, I will waste no time to share the 'good news'.
It gives me great satisfaction to offer the first Flat Tire photograph. Our first Airstream and our first year of ownership.
This pleasant experience is an endangered 14" Goodyear Marathon blowout on a 2006 23 foot Airstream. This is a prime example why not to have 14" Marathons on any trailer. This was taken near Maybell, Colorado, the NW corner of the State.
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Human Bean
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01-22-2017, 08:05 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1977 Argosy 28
Irrigon
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 122
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OH Man. Not much left of that thing.
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Rod
AIR# 60278
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01-22-2017, 08:08 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,052
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Yikes! Not a good day.
Mike
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01-22-2017, 11:08 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Boulder City
, Nevada
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,703
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I had this sent to me concerning Michelin 'tires' to be introduced this year.
YOU can be the first to try these out. I will wait to read your experience...
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01-22-2017, 12:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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Oh for a patch kit
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WBCCI 12156 AIR 3144 WACHUNG TAC NJ6
2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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01-22-2017, 12:39 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 25' Classic
Prescott
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 623
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I had Marathons
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Julia & Bob
W/ Deedee & Boo
AIR #30685
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01-22-2017, 01:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Boulder City
, Nevada
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,703
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Equal Opportunity Flat Tire... Thread
This is an 'Equal Opportunity Flat Tire' thread.
- Equal... that any tire brand which has blown out... or just plain disappeared from its aluminum wheel is... permitted. Also 'unknown or known' objects protruding from the tread or sides of the tire are permitted.
-Opportunity... that an opportunity to demonstrate not only your expertise in photography, but also to support others' frustration of dislodging lug nuts from their over torqued seating.
Just searching for the nearest replacement tire(s), that may have arrived at a shop within the hour... maybe even a day of sitting and waiting for that additional tire sale. Then being required to provide a tread sample for wear, while an unhappy customer, showing up at the door with the empty wheel as the... tread wear sample.
- Flat Tires... Only on my bicycle have I endured more flats, leaking air, and other possible life threatening experiences requiring a hand held tire pump.
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Human Bean
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01-23-2017, 12:01 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2001 30' Excella
Full-time traveling
, Hmmmm. what day of the week is it?
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 212
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The Blowout of Destiny
We too had a terrible blowout and wrote a blog post about it here: https://livinginbeauty.net/2016/08/0...ut-of-destiny/
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01-23-2017, 12:22 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Franklin Park
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 181
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Flat, outside dual, 345😖
After this happened. I bought a 10 ton hydraulic jack, a large breaker bar, and a 1 inch drive torque wrench🛠
Luckily there was no damage to the RV or the wheel👍
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01-23-2017, 12:39 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
palm beach gardens
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 290
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damaged our 25 twice with tread separations on 15" St tires. New 16" Michelins arrived today. Can't wait to get them on!!
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01-23-2017, 01:04 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 19' Flying Cloud
Burlington
, Vermont
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 27
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Speeding Related?
I'm curious if people think their blowouts were caused by speeding. I've only had one blowout and that was in a car many years ago and it was definitely speeding related. Now that I'm much older but only a little wiser and definitely not in a hurry anymore, do I need to be as concerned about blowouts? My new-to-me 2016 Bambi 19' is locked in the barn awaiting its first adventure this spring so I'm not even sure what brand & size tires they are but in talking with the previous owner, I doubt if they even have 1000 miles on them. Any words of advise? Do Bambi owners just buy 2 new tires every year as a precaution? Are Bambi blowouts always a disaster? I DO have stabilizer bars. Thanks!
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01-23-2017, 01:25 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Boulder City
, Nevada
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,703
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Pull Toy.... you are in luck. Only the 23 foot Airstream had the wonderful, magical, 14" C Rated self destructive Marathon tires.
You should have stock, 15" D Rated Marathons that are a big improvement. The 14" Marathons are not worthy being on an Airstream. The 15" D Rated Marathons are not in the same category and many owners have had few issues with them.
I went to 16" Michelins and 16" wheels Load Range E tires. 'Good Tires' as the 15" Marathon tires may be... I wanted the BEST Tires for peace of mind. So far, so good.
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01-23-2017, 01:33 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2013 27' FB International
Denver
, North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 30
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Had the same terrible experience.
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01-23-2017, 02:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 19' Bambi
2012 23' Flying Cloud
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Bandera
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 786
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pull Toy
I'm curious if people think their blowouts were caused by speeding. I've only had one blowout and that was in a car many years ago and it was definitely speeding related. Now that I'm much older but only a little wiser and definitely not in a hurry anymore, do I need to be as concerned about blowouts? My new-to-me 2016 Bambi 19' is locked in the barn awaiting its first adventure this spring so I'm not even sure what brand & size tires they are but in talking with the previous owner, I doubt if they even have 1000 miles on them. Any words of advise? Do Bambi owners just buy 2 new tires every year as a precaution? Are Bambi blowouts always a disaster? I DO have stabilizer bars. Thanks!
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I suspect most blowouts result in SOME damage to the belly skin. In our case, it was
the driver side that blew at 65, ruptured both the gray and black discharge valves, and cracked the neck on the black tank, which had to be replaced. Marathons that I should have replaced due to age when we bought the trailer.
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01-23-2017, 02:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' Flying Cloud
2016 30' Flying Cloud
Blenheim Ontario
, Ontario
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,263
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grosspoluter
Flat, outside dual, 345
After this happened. I bought a 10 ton hydraulic jack, a large breaker bar, and a 1 inch drive torque wrench
Luckily there was no damage to the RV or the wheel
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Why 1" drive torque wrench???
At 110 ft. lb. you only need a 1/2" drive wrench, for a lot less money.
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01-23-2017, 03:30 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Franklin Park
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 181
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Torque on the large truck chassis that the the RV uses (p30) is 180
Wrench was bought on eBay (used much cheaper) (checked it against my friends newer mac tool torque wrench)
Sent from my iPad using Airstream Forums
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01-23-2017, 03:43 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 27' International FB
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 706
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Ouch, I feel your pain. Thanks a lot, Carlisle! Returned the tire to Carlisle via UPS label supplied by Carlisle. They reimbursed me for all 4 tires with a check, after viewing the returned tire.
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Airdreamers
WBCCI #8880
AIR #41310
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01-23-2017, 03:55 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 23' Flying Cloud
Goodyear
, Arizona
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 55
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I was wondering what sensory feedback that all of you have experienced when the tire blows out while towing your trailer? Is it dramatic enough that it's immediately obvious or is it possible to drive on further damaging the trailer without even knowing. Fortunately, I never had a blowout in a car or while towing a trailer.
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01-23-2017, 06:50 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2003 25' Safari
Grayling
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 76
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It isn't just the Goodyear tires. We bought two new Carlisle E rated tires before we left Michigan for Florida four years ago. The first one looked like the one in your picture. It was 72 degrees out and we were running at slightly less than 55 mph on a very smooth two lane road. After being told by a tire dealer in Florida that there was no warranty on the tire I asked if they had a supervisor--to make a long story short, the new tire cost me $25. On the return trip (about 1,500 miles further) the other tire threw a belt during the drive on I-75 at no faster than 65 mph. Given the same warranty story got a new tire for $30. Back at home i got four new Michelin tires on 16 inch new wheels. Been to California, Florida, South and North Dakota and back to Arizona. The tires have been on for three years, still look new. Up until we put the Michelin on we had a total of 5 blowouts, Goodyear and other brands. We are believers that these tires are better, the only problem is we tend to drive a bit faster with these tires and the gas mileage of the tow vehicle has suffered.
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01-23-2017, 06:51 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2002 19' Bambi
Bowdon
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 123
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First blowout after over 20 years towing a trailer.....
Now have tire minders to try to avoid in future.,
Thankful it was just a blowout and no real damage to trailer.
Bonnie
WBCCI# 13031
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