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Old 03-14-2019, 10:08 PM   #1
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Endurance Tire pressure on 27FB Int'l

Just replaced original tires on my 27 FB International and set pressure at 70 PSI . I have read where some run lower pressure, my Marathons where 65 PSI and never had a problem with them for 6 years.



The installer tells me that the Endurance are 10 ply where the Marathons where only 6ply.


What tire pressure at cold do you set yours ?
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Endurance Tire pressure on 27FB Int'l

I run my endurance at 65 on my 30’ ... it weighs in at about 7,000 lbs across both axles hitched and ready for camping.

Here is the load chart for the endurance....

https://www.goodyearrvtires.com/pdfs/rv_inflation.pdf

Technically @1,750lbs load per tire (hitched) 40lbs is acceptable assuming the front axle has 10% more load due to the trailers overall weight distribution. These tires are speed rated to 87mph.

I may drop down to 50-55;this season to improve ride quality whilst still being far north of minimum inflation requirement.
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:28 AM   #3
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I run ours at 70, when hot they get to 73+- a psi or two.
TPMS will alarm at 65. Trailer 7640lb with wd set.
POI...I use 1000lb wd bars with 1200lb tongue weight, proper weight distribution helps soften the ride...SFSG

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Old 03-15-2019, 07:39 AM   #4
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Endurance "E" rated - target is 60 psi. Tires run cool with minimal increase in air pressure when warmed up.
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This will turn into "I know best".

The real answer is no one knows because trailer tires don't have a sticker like cars do.
(IMO, the Goodyear chart will drive you crazy)
I chose 65psi and I'm happy. On the road it goes up to 72 or so and it seems to ride well.
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This will turn into "I know best".

The real answer is no one knows because trailer tires don't have a sticker like cars do.
(IMO, the Goodyear chart will drive you crazy)
I chose 65psi and I'm happy. On the road it goes up to 72 or so and it seems to ride well.
My new 28 has a tire and load sticker. It calls for 80 PSI.
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The label on my Airstream says 80 PSI, I have it set to 75. Just had it to the factory and the Service Tech set the pressure.
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Old 03-15-2019, 09:17 AM   #9
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Most Endurance tires are yust like the old ST , calculated in maximum load for 65mph.
This allows more deflection then LT-tire of same sise and loadrange would need for the 99mph , the maxload is calculated for.
That is the reason why the old ST failed often.
The deflection was to the edges of safety, so a little more speed then 65mph, or litle more weight on tire, or little less pressure, and the tires overheated.

The old ST had better be given the same deflection as LT , so more reserve.
This means that if 65 psi for D-load old ST was given, you better use higher , but not allowed anymore, in earlyer days 10 psi above that was allowed.

Now the new Endurance also to much deflection , and also calculated to the edges of safety, and need higher pressure then the old because stiffer tire gives lesser surface on ground at same deflection.

All together, if you would let me calculate for the new, after giving me 100% accurate data( haha forget it) , it will probably come to that 80 psi, with maximum reserve, and still no bumping.

So dont think that with chanching to Endurance, you are safe with same pressures or even a bit higher, probably you better use max allowed of 80 psi for E-load.
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Tire pressure

We ran our Goodyears at 65psi for a year, then lowered the pressure to 52, still above the Goodyear recommendation for our FC27FBT.

The interior cushions are much less playful now, which tells us the ride is better for the trailer.
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Most Endurance tires are yust like the old ST , calculated in maximum load for 65mph.
This allows more deflection then LT-tire of same sise and loadrange would need for the 99mph , the maxload is calculated for.
That is the reason why the old ST failed often.
The deflection was to the edges of safety, so a little more speed then 65mph, or litle more weight on tire, or little less pressure, and the tires overheated.

The old ST had better be given the same deflection as LT , so more reserve.
This means that if 65 psi for D-load old ST was given, you better use higher , but not allowed anymore, in earlyer days 10 psi above that was allowed.

Now the new Endurance also to much deflection , and also calculated to the edges of safety, and need higher pressure then the old because stiffer tire gives lesser surface on ground at same deflection.

All together, if you would let me calculate for the new, after giving me 100% accurate data( haha forget it) , it will probably come to that 80 psi, with maximum reserve, and still no bumping.

So dont think that with chanching to Endurance, you are safe with same pressures or even a bit higher, probably you better use max allowed of 80 psi for E-load.
Goodyear published their load chart and speed rating for the new endurance tire. I have attached above.

Airstream use the 225/75R15 size endurance tire on 25'+ trailers.

The Endurance tire is speed rated to 87mph (not 65mph) based on the minimum inflation PSI, which is in turn based on the load on the tire. That is what Goodyear publish for this tire (no mystery on tire specs here .

If you want to know what minimum PSI your specific trailer needs to adhere manufacture specifications, just run your trailer over the cat scale, calculate your tire load (per tire), and look up the minimum inflation requirement in the table based on the tire size.

If you want to go with a higher PSI than what is in the load chart there is no harm in doing so, you simply yield a firmer than necessary ride.
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Old 03-15-2019, 11:01 AM   #12
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The label on my Airstream says 80 PSI, I have it set to 75. Just had it to the factory and the Service Tech set the pressure.
Airstream have to put that number on your trailer for legal liability reasons (maximum inflation PSI). If you adhere to that number it will ensure that you cannot make a claim against airstream for damage / accident / injury / etc.. caused by an under-inflated tire for the load it carried.

Maximum inflation PSI is not the same as manufacturer recommended PSI for your particular application / trailer.

Manufacture (Goodyear in this case) actually determines the minimum inflation based on tire load. Chart above details this.
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Do I really worry about riding in the AS?
I have never had any damage to the AS caused by excess tire pressure...bad axles, yep... overrated WD bars, yep... wheel balance, yep.

Disclaimer...I do not run at the sidewall max, but well over the 'load' chart #. A dual axle trailer has too much tire shear when turning to support the lower numbers...but as in all things AS....TETO.
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Smile Endurance Tires on 28' S/O

I installed Endurance tires on my 2006 28' S/O last year and Discount Tire remmended 80# pressure which I found to be too much as all the cabinet doors in my trailer were popping open. I reduced the pressure to 70# cold and that fixed the problem.


My trailer has a GVWR of 9100# with a tongue weight of 1100# so I was concerned, but based on the tire temperature after long 70 mph hauls, everything appears to be just fine.
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We were popping rivets at 80 Lbs. Dropped to 65 Lbs and the rivet problem seems to have gone away.
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This topic has been on this Forum a couple of times already and it has been helpful. Seems like it comes down to using what the tire charts recommend based on weight vs. ride quality preference. Also, doesn’t seem like anybody is happy with the rough ride at 80 PSI.

We started with 80 PSI which is what Discount Tire recommended. It was clear that wouldn’t work for our 27FB Classic based on the mess inside of our trailer after only an hour’s drive down the road. We’ve been running at 75 PSI for the last year and that has been only marginally better. Based on the experiences of others on this Forum, it sounds like 70 PSI might be worth a try to improve ride quality and overall wear and tear on the trailer. Hopefully, doing so doesn’t compromise safety. I’m thinking that since we limit ourselves to a 60 mph maximum speed, there will be much less risk in experimenting with 70 PSI in an effort to duplicate the smooth ride we used to have with the Goodyear Marathons at 65 PSI.
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As mentioned, this topic has been covered in several previous posts on the Endurance. We also had 70PSI from Discount Tire; popped rivets and hinge issues on cabinets. Adjusted to 45-50lbs per our AS weight and Goodyear tire chart. Important to get your AS weighed. We took combined AS weight off scale ticket and divided by 4; then adjusted tire pressure per the Goodyear chart attached. For me, that is 45PSI. I run between 45-50 per the chart.
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One of many gye threads with great psi/tire load comments by tireman9 and capri racer.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...-157249-9.html
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Sams Club has a $80.00 rebate on Goodyear Endurance tires till December 31. Sams sells the tire $1.00 less than Tire rack before rebate. For those of us that need tires.
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Does anyone ever rotate the tires on their Airstream?
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