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Old 05-26-2022, 03:39 PM   #1
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Do you need to balance tires?

I went to Discount Tire and the person told me that I don't need to balance my trailer tires. He said that they usually don't balance trailer tires and it makes no difference. That doesn't sound right to me. What do you think/know.
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Old 05-26-2022, 03:45 PM   #2
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Most trailer tires are not balanced, but Airstream balances theirs. It's better for ride and tire wear, so I balance all my trailer tires, both the Airstream and the car hauler.
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No, that does not sound right to me. Have them balanced anyway. What is the downside of balancing?
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Old 05-26-2022, 04:08 PM   #4
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YES always balance the AS & TV...I use centramatic balancers on the AS.
BIG advantage...they balance the entire rotating assembly, not just the wheel & tire.

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Old 05-26-2022, 05:48 PM   #5
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As already noted, the AS tires are balanced. I've balanced the tires on my last two trailers, both were Northwood. I felt it made for a smoother tow, and stuff inside wasn't getting rattled around in a before/after comparison.
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When my parents bought an Argosy in 1975, the Airstream tech who was handling the delivery said to keep the tires balanced. He said that it prevented rivets from shearing off.

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Old 05-26-2022, 06:48 PM   #7
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YES always balance the AS & TV...I use centramatic balancers on the AS.
BIG advantage...they balance the entire rotating assembly, not just the wheel & tire.

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I also use the centramatic balancers. Seem to work as designed.
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I have always balanced, and just added centramatics, but I am driving from Texas to Newfoundland and took the wheels to Discount Tire and got this information. I did balance anyway.
Do you think that the historical failure of trailer tires could be related to the fact that they haven't been balanced and bounce down the road?
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As already noted, the AS tires are balanced. I've balanced the tires on my last two trailers, both were Northwood. I felt it made for a smoother tow, and stuff inside wasn't getting rattled around in a before/after comparison.
When I brought my tires off my new 2022 FC to get the TPMS sensors installed, I noticed that the tires weren't balanced. They are now. The tires on my stock trailer and my lowboy are also balanced. An unbalanced tire will cup.
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I think the historic failure of ST tires was because they were very poorly designed and poorly made tires. And I do not see any real point to not balancing a tire. It is such a small additional cost. My local Discount tire just went ahead and mounted and balanced the tires like I asked. You just caught one of those comments that should be ignored even if it did come from a professional tire mounter.
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DT balanced our Globetrotter tires

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I went to Discount Tire and the person told me that I don't need to balance my trailer tires. He said that they usually don't balance trailer tires and it makes no difference. That doesn't sound right to me. What do you think/know.
Kevin, I had Discount Tire install Dill metal stems for our TST cap sensor TPMS and they balanced the tires with the sensors installed.

They had two guys doing the job and one installed the weight on the outside of the aluminum wheel. I caught it and asked him to put it on the inside like the others.

I’d go back when there’s another guy at the desk and tell him you want the tires balanced.
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I also use the centramatic balancers. Seem to work as designed.
X3 on Centramatics including my TV. I still have the wheels balanced when installed and let the centramatics handle changes between mountings (lost weights etc) - Brad
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Firestone balanced mine. No questions asked.
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Old 05-27-2022, 09:17 AM   #14
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I'll bet your tire person confused 'balanced' with 'rotate'. You don't rotate trailer tires. You do need to balance any tire...they are molded rubber and even a small weight imbalance will cause vibration (rivets really don't like vibration), loosen nuts, and/or damage studs. Plus they sit on a wheel that isn't perfectly round or balanced and thus can slightly distort the shape of the mounted tire. Lazy tire dealers know that a customer won't be able to feel trailer tire vibration and just skip the whole step of mounting.
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Old 05-27-2022, 09:22 AM   #15
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Balance!!!!
Some tires can be 5 grams or more out of balance
You will overheat the tire and there are strong possibilities that you will shake out a few rivets
Would you run your TV with that kind of vibration?
You don’t want to do that to your trailer!
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Old 05-27-2022, 09:23 AM   #16
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Unbalanced tires will wear unevenly (cupping) no matter the vehicle.

Make sure that they stick the weights on the inside of the rim and not on the outside. Technically it's not a problem, but it looks crummy.

And make sure that they use a floor jack to the frame (at the designated spots) and not to the axel (which is a suspension tube and not a real axel as you would find on an SOB). I had to argue with a DT shop to properly jack my trailer when I had my Endurance tires installed.
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Unbalanced tires cause, tire cupping, early bearing failure and suspension wear. Also vibration on trailer and everything in the trailer.
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I have always balanced, and just added centramatics, but I am driving from Texas to Newfoundland and took the wheels to Discount Tire and got this information. I did balance anyway.
Do you think that the historical failure of trailer tires could be related to the fact that they haven't been balanced and bounce down the road?
Hi Curtis,
Hope to see you in Newfoundland. I hope we're the only two up there, haha.
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Old 05-27-2022, 11:48 AM   #19
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You don't need to spend the $20 on balancing if you don't mind beating your trailer to sh$% driving down the road or replacing rivets after each trip.

The tech is right, on most trailer brands they don't bother...but they aren't designed to last more than 7 or 8 years!
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Other than saving money in the short term, is there any possible reason for not balancing?
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