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Old 06-02-2023, 04:58 PM   #1
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Carlisle Tires

I took my Airstream to be serviced at an Airstream dealer and had the tires replaced. I was assuming they'd put on Goodyear's but swapped out my Michelins for Carlisle trailer tires.

It feels like a downgrade. Any thoughts? Are they safe?

Thanks!
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Old 06-02-2023, 05:45 PM   #2
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And the lesson learned is?
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Carlisle has a very good reputation...treat them right and you should be alright.

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Old 06-02-2023, 07:54 PM   #3
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I had them on my Safari for 4 years, no problems.
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Old 06-02-2023, 08:20 PM   #4
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I JUST replaced my 6 year old Carlisle ST tires with the same new ones. They’re good quality. (Originally made in Carlisle, PA by Carlisle Tire Co… now mfr’d in Asia to Carlisle specs.
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I took my Airstream to be serviced at an Airstream dealer and had the tires replaced. I was assuming they'd put on Goodyear's but swapped out my Michelins for Carlisle trailer tires.



It feels like a downgrade. Any thoughts? Are they safe?



Thanks!


Itís a downgrade, no doubt about it. The Carlisle tires (ST Iíll assume) may be reasonably good tires, but theyíre far from being Michelins and inferior to the Goodyear Endurance STs as well.

This should have been discussed thoroughly before the work was done.
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Old 06-02-2023, 11:41 PM   #6
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It’s a downgrade, no doubt about it. The Carlisle tires (ST I’ll assume) may be reasonably good tires, but they’re far from being Michelins and inferior to the Goodyear Endurance STs as well.

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Not according to Actual Users… (see reviews below) … https://www.f150forum.com/f82/goodye...539721/index2/
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Old 06-03-2023, 10:11 PM   #7
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Not according to Actual UsersÖ (see reviews below) Ö https://www.f150forum.com/f82/goodye...539721/index2/


Interesting! It looks like Carlisle is paying attention to quality like Goodyear is with the Endurance line.

Iím still happy I bought new Michelins though.
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Old 06-03-2023, 10:16 PM   #8
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RE: Carlisle Tires

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I took my Airstream to be serviced at an Airstream dealer and had the tires replaced. I was assuming they'd put on Goodyear's but swapped out my Michelins for Carlisle trailer tires.

It feels like a downgrade. Any thoughts? Are they safe?

Thanks!
Back in 2008 when I had to purchase my first set of Carlisle ST tires for my Overlander when all of the Good Year dealers within reasonable driving distance of my home were out of stock on the Good Year Marathons that I had planned to purchase. I had used Good Year Marathons since 1980 when they were bias ply, and I really was not happy about having to switch brands.

That set of Carlisle ST tires performed flawlessly from 2008 through 2014 when I had to discontinue traveling for health reasons. This spring, I was cleared to resume travel so went to replace those Carlisle tires, and again found that all of the Good Year dealers within reasonable distance from my home were sold out of the Endurance so I went with the Carlisle Radial Trail HD for my Overlander without reservation. I may just do the same thing later this summer when I purchase new tires for my Minuet.
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Old 06-04-2023, 02:34 AM   #9
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Our first boat trailer had Carlisle. Ran great. When it came to get new tires I got GY Marathons. Within a couple of months we went thru all 4 tires. I had the local GY store order new Carlisle tires and never had a problem again. Iíd have no issue having them.
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Old 06-04-2023, 06:06 AM   #10
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I just replaced my five year old Carlisle Radial Trail tires with the same. $114 each at Walmart. Mounting and balancing of course was extra. I know those Goodyear Endurance tries are great but they don't last any longer so I can'y justify the price.
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Old 06-04-2023, 06:23 AM   #11
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When I needed new front tires on my Snapper Lawn and Garden tractor, the Stihl dealer told me he'd recommend the Carlisle tires as they are the best. I have them on my tractor now. Very good tires. I have no opinion if they are good TRAILER tires.





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Old 06-04-2023, 11:23 AM   #12
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I’ve got them on my horse trailer and T@b 400 camper. Like you I took my trailers to a respectable local shop and that’s what they recommended. They’ve only been on for about 500 miles so far. But I’ve got no complaints.
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Old 06-04-2023, 12:45 PM   #13
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Good to know of another useful secondary brand.

We have Kenda LoadStar radials on our AS currently, they were installed when we went in for brake and axle service. They seem to have a decent reputation too.
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Old 06-04-2023, 06:03 PM   #14
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Purchased my 2006 25FB in 2009 with very little miles on it. In 2010 I replaced the Goodyears (older version) because they were starting to show tread separation on two of them. Went with Maxxi 8008s since they were getting good reviews. I put about 5 years on them and they were OK but were starting to show some issues. My Discount Tire dealer suggested the Carlisle Radial HD tires and they have been great. I did go with the load range E and they wore like iron. After 6 years there was plenty of tread left but I replaced them with a new set just last year. They are by far, the best trailer tire I have ever had and.....they were not as expensive as some of the other opitons.
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Old 06-07-2023, 09:45 AM   #15
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Interesting! It looks like Carlisle is paying attention to quality like Goodyear is with the Endurance line.

Iím still happy I bought new Michelins though.

Since the Michelin tires are not ST type are they larger in size or higher in Load Range than the LT type Michelins?


What were the OE tires? (Size, type and LR and recommended inflation?) is your tire load capacity at least 110% of GAWR and have you confirmed your actual axle weight is less than GAWR for each axle?
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How many people know if their ST tires have "Nylon" cap ply material?
Have you confirmed your tire load capacity at your cold inflation is at least 110% of the measured load on each axle?
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The tires that now are sold under the Carlisle name have only the name to tie them to the tires once made in the US. Anything folks saw or experienced with the US made tires very much does not apply to the ones from China. As you dive into what folks have experienced with the tires, you need to separate them into two groups (China vs US).

It is possible that you actually need to separate things a bit further. It is not obvious just *who* in China is making the tires now or who made them in the past. How you sort that part out is very much up to you.

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Old 06-07-2023, 10:18 AM   #18
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My experience was different than the above posters.

Put 6 new Carlisle ST trailer tires on my 2 car 3 axle trailer.

Immediately left on a trip for Texas from TN. 5 of the 6 tires either had a cord separation or blew out on the 600 mile first trip. All interstate driving.

Called Carlisle.

They required me and paid for me to return to them all 6 tires for engineering analysis which I did. They fully refunded me the complete amount for the tires and installation at my insistence.

This was my 1 time trying ST trailer rated tires for installation on any of my 4 trailers.

Big failure.

I went BACK to buying and installing LT rated truck tires on that 2 car 3 axle trailer and have never had a tire issue again!

After several repeated inquiries with Carlisle to find out the results of their defective tire analysis they would never reply!
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Old 06-07-2023, 12:37 PM   #19
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I would certainly consider it a down grade from Michelins. I probably would have tried to get them changed out instead of accepting the trailer.

Do you have 15" wheels or 16" wheels? I can see Airstream refusing to put on 15" Michelins. Not 16" though. I am not sure Goodyear offers the Endurance in 16" either.


I have no idea if they are "safe". Probably. But...my judgement is that they are "lesser" than Michelins.
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I didn't have good experience with Carlisle trailer tires
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