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Old 04-01-2020, 07:49 AM   #1
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A request for information

As many of you know, I'm a retired tire engineer (42 years!). Back in 2000, I was working in the Quality Department for a major tire manufacturer when the Ford/Firestone situation hit. I found out that there was a lot of misinformation on the internet and decided to help clean that up. I think I've been mostly successful, but the work will never be complete (After all, it is the internet, where bad information thrives!)

I am here on this website because of the situation some years back about ST tires. (Side note: I think we are currently in a transition phase away from the bad old days.)

I just ran across some info concerning an older Airstream trailer and how Airstream uses a plate to enumerate its tire information (required by law!). This plate also serves as the VIN certification plate.

I am of the opinion that starting in 2008, all light vehicles (Cars, Pickup trucks, SUV's and trailers under 10,000# GVW) are required to have a yellow vehicle tire placard, like this one.



Can folks confirm that this is true for newer Airstream trailers? Where is this sticker located?

Also, can anyone disagree that prior to 2008, Airstream used a plate for their tire information - like the one shown on this page:

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/476114991834336306/

Where were these located?

Please note: I have never own an Airstream. I post on this site because I am trying to help folks with tires.
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Old 04-01-2020, 07:56 AM   #2
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Yes...my '06 Burb has a sticker, but not yellow and not tire specific. I retired in '09 from a Chevy store, the yellow had just started.

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Old 04-01-2020, 08:03 AM   #3
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My 2012 Corolla has the yellow sticker but my 2004 4Runner has a white one with the same information. My 2006 AS is in storage but I don't recall seeing any data plate like the one you show.
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Old 04-01-2020, 08:04 AM   #4
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Our 1999 Excella has the same plate from your link, it is located on the front curb side of the Airstream. Only has the tire size and air pressure, along with build date and VIN number and model info.



There is also a weight and load information that is located on the closet door, inside the Airstream. I can get you pics of both if you need them


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As many of you know, I'm a retired tire engineer (42 years!). Back in 2000, I was working in the Quality Department for a major tire manufacturer when the Ford/Firestone situation hit. I found out that there was a lot of misinformation on the internet and decided to help clean that up. I think I've been mostly successful, but the work will never be complete (After all, it is the internet, where bad information thrives!)

I am here on this website because of the situation some years back about ST tires. (Side note: I think we are currently in a transition phase away from the bad old days.)

I just ran across some info concerning an older Airstream trailer and how Airstream uses a plate to enumerate its tire information (required by law!). This plate also serves as the VIN certification plate.

I am of the opinion that starting in 2008, all light vehicles (Cars, Pickup trucks, SUV's and trailers under 10,000# GVW) are required to have a yellow vehicle tire placard, like this one.



Can folks confirm that this is true for newer Airstream trailers? Where is this sticker located?

Also, can anyone disagree that prior to 2008, Airstream used a plate for their tire information - like the one shown on this page:

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/476114991834336306/

Where were these located?

Please note: I have never own an Airstream. I post on this site because I am trying to help folks with tires.
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Old 04-01-2020, 09:39 AM   #5
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My 2019 Sport has yellow text on black background; same for 2015 Honda. 2019 Ford Ranger has similar to what you posted: black text on yellow background.
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Old 04-01-2020, 09:39 AM   #6
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As many of you know, I'm a retired tire engineer (42 years!). Back in 2000, I was working in the Quality Department for a major tire manufacturer when the Ford/Firestone situation hit. I found out that there was a lot of misinformation on the internet and decided to help clean that up. I think I've been mostly successful, but the work will never be complete (After all, it is the internet, where bad information thrives!)

I am here on this website because of the situation some years back about ST tires. (Side note: I think we are currently in a transition phase away from the bad old days.)

I just ran across some info concerning an older Airstream trailer and how Airstream uses a plate to enumerate its tire information (required by law!). This plate also serves as the VIN certification plate.

I am of the opinion that starting in 2008, all light vehicles (Cars, Pickup trucks, SUV's and trailers under 10,000# GVW) are required to have a yellow vehicle tire placard, like this one.



Can folks confirm that this is true for newer Airstream trailers? Where is this sticker located?

Also, can anyone disagree that prior to 2008, Airstream used a plate for their tire information - like the one shown on this page:

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/476114991834336306/

Where were these located?

Please note: I have never own an Airstream. I post on this site because I am trying to help folks with tires.
On my 2018 Airstream, the yellow sticker is located on the left front corner, right behind the gravel shields.
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Old 04-01-2020, 10:05 AM   #7
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2020 International has the yellow type decal port side, forward.
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Our 2013 F-150 has the "Yellow" sticker, our 2004 AS has the info on the Plate on the drivers side and a sticker on the kitchen cupboard door (max 80#) however, that tire info was based on the "factory installed tires". Since install of new GYE I inflate based on the recommended inflation chart provided by Goodyear.
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Old 04-01-2020, 10:16 AM   #9
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My 2019 has this on the road side, near the front.
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Old 04-01-2020, 10:19 AM   #10
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Old 04-01-2020, 10:21 AM   #11
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Both my 1988 model trailers have the metal plate you showed. On the drivers side near the front of the trailer. I have looked at many more with the plate there,


I am still wondering why, if 43 lbs air held it up in 1988, that it takes 80 psi now with larger tires?
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Old 04-01-2020, 10:37 AM   #12
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The metal plate you show is at the far front street side of my 2004 Classic. Here is a picture of its location. You will see it below the Classic badge on my trailer.

FYI, you may not remember but I was the person who contacted you many years ago to come to this forum and share your expertise with us. Thank you so much for responding to my request, and all the information you have supplied the members with over the years!

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Old 04-01-2020, 10:59 AM   #13
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Our 1986 has the aluminum plate at the front street side down low.
On another note I was the victim of the Firestone separation about two months before it was announced. Firestone would do nothing. The only good thing was Ford finally replaced them with 5 new Michelin tires and they are still on it (91 Explorer).
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Old 04-01-2020, 12:31 PM   #14
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Our '73 has no information about tires on the plates around the trailer. The VIN, date of manufacture and weight information is on a plate on front streetside exterior down low. Our '02 F250 is in the shop right now, but I'm pretty sure the tire info is on the door on a black and white label (no yellow).

I want to echo what Jack said above. Many thanks for your good information over the years. It's been a pleasure hearing from a real expert on such a charged topic.

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My 2019 has this on the road side, near the front.
Same as StanA on our 2014

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Old 04-01-2020, 02:02 PM   #16
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Same here on our 2014 FC20.

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Can folks confirm that this is true for newer Airstream trailers? Where is this sticker located?
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Same here on our 2014 FC20.

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My 2019 has it on the front drivers side by the rock guards.
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Both my 1988 model trailers have the metal plate you showed. On the drivers side near the front of the trailer. I have looked at many more with the plate there,


I am still wondering why, if 43 lbs air held it up in 1988, that it takes 80 psi now with larger tires?
Hi Bill

I think that probably said 45 PSI which was the max pressure of the 7:00 x 15 Load Range C Michelin XCA tires that were used back then. They were a very high quality tire that rode beautifully. Unfortunately no longer available.
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Old 04-02-2020, 06:21 AM   #20
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First, thanks to all for the great responses.

And to clarify, I am only interested in what Airstream does and did. (I've got a good handle on what car and truck manufacturers do.)

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……. There is also a weight and load information that is located on the closet door, inside the Airstream. I can get you pics of both if you need them...…
Yes, please get photos - and where is this closet located.

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My 2019 has this on the road side, near the front.
This was outside, unprotected from the elements?
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