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Old 04-12-2004, 10:12 PM   #1
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7 14.5 Tires

I need to replace tires (wheels) on a 59 Overlander to get it home 900 miles. It has 7 14.5 tires on it that are badly cracked. Has 6 lugs at 4.5 with just under a 3 inch center. Would prefer to haul down 4 new mounted tires to put on and feel safe. Trailer is 3250 but missing some insides.
I think it would take 15 inch tires as there is about five inches between them. Oh... their are four of them. A 59 Tandem... Lucky me....

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I just ditched the 14.5 and went with some spiffy aluminums on our 59.
Tire a rim MOUNTED but needing to be ballanced is $149 each.
http://www.trailer-parts-forless.com...l_assembly.htm
Thesr are correct weith and size with Good year marathons. the part number you want is 22575R15ARA You also want Center cap K425TT
That is the cheapest I have found and they are local to me. Might check some trailer places around you and save the shipping.
You need 7/16 lug nuts. That place does not have them. Local Autozone does. If they ask you what it's for tell them 1979 Chevy K5 Blazer 1/2 ton 4wd. They run the same size.

Now a WARNING. New aluminum wheels on old dirty rusty drum is going to want to loosen up on you. You MUST retorqe thise wheels after 50 miles and might want to check them again and make sure they are staying tight till they get seated to the drum. Before istalling them scrap and with brush the hub surface.

I just put new wheels on my truck and a second trailer and I was still finding lugs losing a little torque after 300 miles. They seem to have seated now at 500 miles.
Here is what these rims look like.
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Old 04-13-2004, 10:56 AM   #3
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Cool - you got it! I assume its the same trailer you have been talking about?

Pictures, pictures, pictures

Anyway, I'm going to use the marithons on my 58 - except I going with steel rims and baby moons.

If you want to keep the 7.5's Cooper tire still makes that size and its a good tire. Are the rims split rim? If so, they should be trashed, not to mention you won't find anyone to work on them

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Old 04-13-2004, 11:22 AM   #4
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Solid wheels with what looks like moon hub tabs. Not same trailer I've been considering. This one is in Bat Cave NC. 950 miles away. Will be a 2-3 year rebuild for tripping...Just decided to go for it. By the time I found the prefect AS I'ld be too old to drive. So picked one and making the committment to make it work. Surprises, faults, and all. Besides I was driving the wife, partners, clients, and everyone else crazy looking for AS on the net. Became an obsession. Now at least I'll be accomplishing something and won't be hearing "playing on the computer" from downstairs.
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Old 04-13-2004, 11:33 AM   #5
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Boy I understand that - its been sooo nice for the past couple months not having to check my list of want ads everyday searching for the perfect trailer. Let me know if you need anything in the restore - double axle is a little bit unusual, but really great for that size trailer - its what I have.

Sounds like I'm 2-3 month ahead of you on my 58 double axle restore, so you can watch me make all the mistakes , anyway, let me know if I can help in any way.

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Old 04-13-2004, 11:43 AM   #6
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Now you get to obsess over the restoration Hope the family, friends and clients understand that you are still in the earily stages of the disease that has not known cure.............
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Old 04-13-2004, 06:18 PM   #7
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Picture 1959 Overlander

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Old 04-13-2004, 06:25 PM   #8
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Looks good from what I can see - its an International - thats cool

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Thanks toaster. Cann't justify 600 for wheels and tires before meeting the trailer and developing game plan. Maybe I can find a place near the trailer that could put new coopers on the wheels. That would get me home and hold me during restoration.
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Paul, are you going to stick a piece of plexi in that window hole? Or something similar? Spring weather in the midsouth is unpredictable, I would hate for you to wind up towing a few hundred gallons of extra water home with you.
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That was interesting! Must be a glitch in the new software. I didn't intend to hijack your photo, just the text! I hit the quote button, and look what I got.
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Actually that's an open window. Just need to close it. Sure there will be lots of surprises.
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Will make arrangements to have four new 7 14.5 tires put on when I pick it up. Less money and surprises. Fancy wheels will have to wait.
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In my opinion, make sure they don't put Carlile tires on the trailer - Carlile is the other manufacturer that still makes that size - while they work and many use them - they can be hard to balance and generally not thought of as great tires. Cooper tires seem to be pretty consistent and have been around a long time.

Having said this, I have Carlile tires put on by PO - they were a bear to balance - but I figure I'll use them since I have them and will switch over to Goodyear next year

You can fit the Goodyear Marathon tires on those rims if you choose to do so. Its a radial tire that gives a better ride.

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Old 04-14-2004, 12:34 PM   #15
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Thanks Ken. I was setting it up with Carlile because they have the size. Also found a conversion table and can use a meteric size. Don't have it with me but think is was a 205. The table has the dimensions of all three types so you can make sure it fits all around. I'll look into the Cooper's. The talk on the forum is divided about radials, I'll have to read the thread again.
Moving to new thread step by step as this whole thing is going to take some interaction.

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Thats why I thought I'd would mention the Carlile - you can do a search and you'll see other comments. They must be easy to get, because they seem to sell alot of them. My understanding over the years on those conversion tables is you can end up with different sizes - take a look at RJ's site where he shows various tire sizes.

As I understand it - and would like to hear from others - is that the disadantage of the Goodyears is they had problems with them for a while and when they break apart they really make a mess. The Coopers and Carliles are the exact size of the old vintage tires and therefore look better on the old trailers.

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Not alot of choices for tires. Seems like Cooper doesn't make 7 14.5 anymore.
Wheels/hubs turn out to be 6 on 5.5 which really helps. Current money is on new 7's at least until trailer is done and ready to dress shoes.
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PS KenJ. do you mean to say there is a Goodyear that would fit the same wheel as the 7 14.5 is on. Are the 14.5 wheels really 15"
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Cooper does not make that tire anymore - bummer - before cooper michlean quit making them, now Cooper - guess Carlile is the only one left that I'm aware of - big bummer.

Yes, although I have not done it myself, the Goodyear Marithons fit the same rim size. In fact, when I do replace my 7.5's on my 75 - I planning on it because the trailer has those nice aluminum rims. My understanding the Goodyears are what the factory recommends for replacement tires. On my 59 Traveler, I was bent on keeping everything exactly original, now with the 58 Overlander - I'm less worried about that, and want to go with whats best. I finally came to grips that some products have been improved over the years and I think radial tires is one of them. Just my thoughts.........

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One more thing..... I understand that if you go with the Goodyears, the trailer sits about 2" lower...

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Well ok two more things - - be sure to have them put on metal valve stems - not the rubber ones......

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