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07-22-2008, 01:55 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Waters
, Michigan
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1970 tradewind spare tire questions...
Hello,and Thank you for any help you may give ....I need to know the lug pattern ,and what size spare tire to buy so I can have one available when I go pick up my trailer for the first time!!! any help would be great !
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07-22-2008, 02:09 PM
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Ham KI4HJX
1982 27' Excella
1970 23' Safari
Franklin
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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My 1970 Safari has six lug wheel with 15 inch tires. You need a trailer rated wheel such as Inland RV has as a car or truck wheel is not strong enough. I like a "D" or "E" rated tire. I think "E" rating is ten ply rated. The cheap tires may work on short trips but will come apart at highway speeds and long pulls. Great luck with your new Airstream!
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07-22-2008, 02:22 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Waters
, Michigan
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oh by the way....the current owner says this trailer weighs in at almost 7,000 lbs is this correct ? according to http://www.airstream.com/docs/weights-1.pdf they say it weighs in at 4 and change,,,who is right ???>
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07-22-2008, 02:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Sovereign
1970 23' Safari
1956 26' Cruiser Overlander
Lambertville
, Michigan
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Rollerboy,
The airstream data should be close. I doubt it is anywhere near 7K pounds. The high bias tire for that trailer should be a 700-15 load D. for a radial 225-75-15 load D.
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07-22-2008, 03:33 PM
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Area 63 Productions
Commercial Member
1963 26' Overlander
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1963 19' Globetrotter
Orange
, California
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15x6, zero offset, 6 on 5.5 bolt pattern. 3 11/16 min. center bore.
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07-22-2008, 04:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Campton
, New Hampshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollerboy
oh by the way....the current owner says this trailer weighs in at almost 7,000 lbs is this correct ? according to http://www.airstream.com/docs/weights-1.pdf they say it weighs in at 4 and change,,,who is right ???>
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The docs are giving the dry weight , the loaded weight ( GVWR ) is substantially more . My '76 GVWR is 5800#. It would probably take a 31 footer to get to the 7000#.
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07-23-2008, 02:49 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Waters
, Michigan
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We are buying it for sure !!!!! shooting to pick it up this Saturday,but not locked into that day for sure,may have to wait another week for my nerves..... it has not rolled in 5 years,and may need some on the spot work.... will keep you all posted !! Thank You All...........So may questions yet to come....
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07-23-2008, 05:20 AM
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Rivet Master
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08-04-2008, 04:26 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Waters
, Michigan
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Bought it ! cleaned it up,camped in it !!!Love it ,now where does the spare tire get stored ? kinda gets old tossing it in the back of our van..... heard it originally went underneath the very front of the trailer,but would that not seriously mess with your ground clearance ?Thanks for any help...
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08-04-2008, 05:41 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Texas Airstream Harbor
, Zavalla, in the Deep East Texas Piney Woods on Lake Sam Rayburn
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollerboy
..... heard it originally went underneath the very front of the trailer,but would that not seriously mess with your ground clearance ?Thanks for any help...
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It does not decrease the ground clearance at all - more than half of the tire depth is buried into the A-frame
As you can see from the pic below you can barely tell the spare is there without kneeling down to inspect the underbelly.
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"Suck it up, spend the bucks, do it right the first time."
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Trailer '78 31' Sovereign
Living Large at an Airstream Park on the Largest Lake Totally Contained in Texas
Texas Airstream Harbor, Inc.
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08-04-2008, 06:45 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Waters
, Michigan
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ok,call me slow but when I looked underneath my trailer today it was indeed a smooth bottom(without the weldnuts that I heard most trailers come with so shall I mount on the underside of the tongue?please advise....Thank You !!
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08-04-2008, 06:54 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
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When the spare tire carrier is installed a section of the belly pan is removed. The exposed floor (bottom side) is then covered with aluminum skin to protect it. The mounting for the carrier goes in the first cross member.
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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08-05-2008, 04:40 AM
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Rivet Master
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Denton
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I like it
Quote:
Originally Posted by 87MH
It does not decrease the ground clearance at all - more than half of the tire depth is buried into the A-frame
As you can see from the pic below you can barely tell the spare is there without kneeling down to inspect the underbelly.
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I like it.
How hard is it to get up and down?
I have always thought that the spare tire rack that Airstream designed made the tire hard to get up into the rack. It may be that all in all, that design may be the best that can be done for the given area.
Dan
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08-05-2008, 04:46 AM
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We have the factory setup for our spare, and I can tell you with no doubt it is 10 times easier than removing the spare from out F250. The "secret" is to roll the tire into the bracket, then lie down and basically bench-press the assembly into place.
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08-05-2008, 03:13 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Waters
, Michigan
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Thank you for posting the picture ,sure looks great tucked in there...nice and safe,If I drill out my rivets in the belly pan what are the chances the weld nuts are already there? or is it futile to try and install there without knowing if I have the factory setup underneath the belly skin ...Thanks !!
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08-05-2008, 05:41 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples
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My 77 Overlander does not have the space under the bow for the spare , even though my 73 does. Can I just cut it out ,add a water proofing,make bracket and put spare there.Owners manuel says I don`t need a spare, I can run on 3 wheels. Dave
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08-06-2008, 07:55 AM
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Rivet Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easyride
Can I just cut it out ,add a water proofing,make bracket and put spare there.
Dave
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Dave Yes you can cut it out and put a tire rack like this one........
Spare Tire Rack.
Or design something like 87MH did.
It will need to be sealed under there. Whenever we have done it here in the shop, we have cut a piece of metal screwed it to the floor then sealed.
Yes you can run on three wheels, but I would only do it for a short distance. I would be afraid the extra pressure would make the other tire on that side go.
Also, having the spare will allow you to be able to get your unit to a place where getting it fixed won't be so expensive. You know how it is, when your out there on the road.
Dan
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08-06-2008, 02:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan4odm
Dave Yes you can cut it out and put a tire rack like this one........
Spare Tire Rack.
Or design something like 87MH did.
It will need to be sealed under there. Whenever we have done it here in the shop, we have cut a piece of metal screwed it to the floor then sealed.
Yes you can run on three wheels, but I would only do it for a short distance. I would be afraid the extra pressure would make the other tire on that side go.
Also, having the spare will allow you to be able to get your unit to a place where getting it fixed won't be so expensive. You know how it is, when your out there on the road.
Dan
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I think I`ll make my own ,I know it will be a lot cheaper. I have some black iron,a bender,and a welder,now all I need is the time and a cool day,maybe December .Dave
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08-06-2008, 06:43 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1992 21' Sovereign
Yellville
, Arkansas
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The spare can be removed/replaced without mussing your Sunday cloths, if you're careful. Very easy.
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08-18-2008, 10:04 PM
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New Member
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Mission
, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollerboy
We are buying it for sure !!!!! shooting to pick it up this Saturday,but not locked into that day for sure,may have to wait another week for my nerves..... it has not rolled in 5 years,and may need some on the spot work.... will keep you all posted !! Thank You All...........So may questions yet to come....
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If I were picking up this trailer & towing it home on old tires, I'd splurge & take two spares with me. My reasoning is that if one old tire lets go big time after being aired up and towed, the others are not far behind. If you have a second spare, you've got a fighting chance to get to the tire store before all of the old tires self-destruct.
The voice of experience (but I ALWAYS carry 2 spares for EVERYTHING).
John Alldredge
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