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11-11-2016, 09:57 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1954 22' Safari
Deerfield
, Illinois
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,419
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Straight Axle: anyone use lowering blocks?
So, we decided to install way more fresh, gray and black water storage by using modern Airstream under-mount tanks beneath our 1957 Custom.
And to accommodate the slimmer ground clearance since the new tanks hang below the belly pan, our restoration shop suggested we replace our original drop axle with a straight axle... raising the trailer by a whopping FOUR inches.
Unfortunately, I couldn't quite imagine how odd the results would look: a sleek 50s trailer sitting up high, like an SUV.
I'd like to lower the ride height back down by 2 or 3 inches - it's really high up, and we have no plans to go off-roading in this thing. Plus we'll be towing with a vintage car, so the hitch will already be fairly low.
It's a leaf spring setup, so is there any reason why I can't (or shouldn't) use the old hot rodding trick of lowering blocks?
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11-12-2016, 05:05 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2021 16' Bambi
2021 22' Bambi
Currently Looking...
North Port
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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If the axle is already on top side of the spring then yes I would look at blocks. They are used all the time. Just have to get some new u bolts made up or find a kit.
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11-12-2016, 06:06 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
London
, Ontario
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You likely don't have enough room for blocks and still have suspension travel. I think you can get a 3" drop axle. A bare axle is not very expensive.
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11-12-2016, 06:22 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1978 25' Tradewind
1954 15' Byam Holiday
Vintage Kin Owner
Linden
, Michigan
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 293
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Pm
Brad,
I just sent you a PM regarding our direction with our 54 Safari.
Regards,
StevieB
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11-12-2016, 07:09 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1954 22' Safari
Deerfield
, Illinois
Join Date: May 2003
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Thanks you three ~ Andy, suspension travel was my fear.. I'll do some additional homework, and also explore the possibility of going back to a drop axle.
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11-12-2016, 10:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Spicewood (W of Austin)
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,981
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieB
Brad,
I just sent you a PM regarding our direction with our 54 Safari.
Regards,
StevieB
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I don't mean this as a personal criticism at all, so please don't take it that way.....
... The reason forums are such wonderful venues is they allow the sharing of "tribal knowledge". I have read several threads in these forums that do what this post does..... indicate a solution someone has discovered and shared privately with another... which leaves the rest of us still looking for a solution.
Is there any reason you cannot share your info with the rest of us?
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11-12-2016, 11:50 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
Lynnwood
, Washington
Join Date: Jan 2015
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If you're looking for ground clearance, how it "looks" isn't important.
Instead, you sacrificed center of gravity - a critical component in road handling.
If you take it for a road trip, you will get a lesson in "tail wagging the dog."
Tom
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11-13-2016, 09:58 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1978 25' Tradewind
1954 15' Byam Holiday
Vintage Kin Owner
Linden
, Michigan
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 293
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Reply to Boxite and Brad
Boxite,
I understand where you are coming from, but I was giving Brad a personal opinion and sharing with him the direction we are heading with a minor restoration. If Brad chooses to copy and paste my private message to him, I encourage it as of this writing. Or, if he would like me to share my opinion directly, I will gladly do it with his permission.
To state a current buzz phrase, I am open and transparent.
Regards,
StevieB
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11-13-2016, 05:58 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1954 22' Safari
Deerfield
, Illinois
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,419
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomKirk
If you're looking for ground clearance, how it "looks" isn't important.
Instead, you sacrificed center of gravity - a critical component in road handling.
If you take it for a road trip, you will get a lesson in "tail wagging the dog."
Tom
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Great point, Tom -- in referencing looks I also meant function, as the single fold-out stair is also grossly out of placement with the ground. But you're absolutely correct that the center of gravity is also 4" higher now. We plan on using new-to-us Hensley Cub, but there's still no advantage to having the trailer sitting so much higher.
Thanks for weighing in.
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11-13-2016, 06:41 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1954 22' Safari
Deerfield
, Illinois
Join Date: May 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieB
Boxite,
...I was sharing with him the direction we are heading...
StevieB
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Hey Boxite, yeah Stevie landed on an interesting alternative solution based on their circumstances: their '54 was jacked way up and had external tanks also, but the PO had added them, so because they typically camp with full hookups rather than boondocking, they decided to downsize their capacity and bring the tanks inboard (the way Wally intended).
We'll explore the blocks if possible (cheapest solution) or going back to a 3/4" drop axle if not, and I plan on painting the aluminum shroud with black truck bed liner tomorrow to help them further recess into the shadows.
Will update accordingly.
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11-14-2016, 02:52 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1954 22' Safari
Deerfield
, Illinois
Join Date: May 2003
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It was another exceptionally warm November day here in Chicagoland, so I broke out the disposable foam brush and truck bed liner, and painted the aluminum shroud on our tanks. Helps make them disappear quite a bit... though we'll still attempt to lower the whole trailer eventually.
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Brad
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11-14-2016, 05:57 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,347
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What tires are you using?
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Andrew Thomson London, Ontario
"One test is worth a thousand expert opinions." Tex Johnston, Boeing 707 test pilot
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11-15-2016, 12:36 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1954 22' Safari
Deerfield
, Illinois
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,419
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew T
What tires are you using?
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Andy, those are Liberty brand bias ply tires -- 7.00-15 LT. I didn't request them, they were supplied by the restoration shop where the axle replacement was done.
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Brad
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11-15-2016, 02:16 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1978 25' Tradewind
1954 15' Byam Holiday
Vintage Kin Owner
Linden
, Michigan
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 293
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Black Paint
Brad,
Nice job on the black paint. It sure does a good job of hiding them. Then with lowering the profile, you should be in business.
Regards,
StevieB
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11-15-2016, 04:40 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1975 31' Sovereign
Palomar Mountain
, California
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 355
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It might be to late, but it looks like you could have positioned the tanks so the axle would have gone up between the gap between two of them.
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11-19-2016, 09:55 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1954 22' Safari
Deerfield
, Illinois
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,419
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Hawk
It might be to late, but it looks like you could have positioned the tanks so the axle would have gone up between the gap between two of them.
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Thanks Silver ~ if I understand you correctly, the tanks won't pose a problem. The axle is already nested in between both tanks as they sit front to back, and they're narrower (side to side) than where the springs and shocks are attached. So I should have room to either add blocks, or swap out this axle (with a total of only a couple hundred miles on it) with a 3 or 4-inch drop so we sit down low once more.
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