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03-25-2005, 10:50 AM
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a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,921
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Rusty Nuts
I just ordered up 4 shocks for my Safari.
I also wanted to order eight bolts for the shock mounts. But my bolts are welded on
My worry is they are rusted up pretty well and I don't want to break or strip one out.
I got some Liquid Wrench to start putting on the nuts to help get them off.
I was wondering what is the best stuff to use to get these apart w/o problems?
Any other shock replacement tips are welcome.
Once again, as most things with this trailer, this is new teritory for me
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03-25-2005, 10:58 AM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,486
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I have had great results with PB Blaster. But sometimes there is no substitute for concetrated heat - like an acetylene torch.
Of course, this is also a good way to burn up the coach if you do not know how. It is worth thinking about nearby propane lines.
Mark
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03-25-2005, 10:59 AM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,164
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I found that "Naval Jelly" will remove the rust from the portion of the bolt that protrudes past the nut. I have used the stuff to salvage tools that were dropped outdoors and lay and rusted all winter. It is nasty stuff, so wear gloves.
Heating the nut quite hot with a propane torch will help free it. Heat it, then cool it rapidly several times. That, and some Liquid Wrench will probably do the trick.
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2018 Interstate GT, "Sabre-Dog V"
WBCCI #9632
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03-25-2005, 11:16 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
1954 26' Romany Cruiser
1960 26' Overlander
Rockingham County
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,410
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Safari Tim
I just ordered up 4 shocks for my Safari.
I also wanted to order eight bolts for the shock mounts. But my bolts are welded on
My worry is they are rusted up pretty well and I don't want to break or strip one out.
I got some Liquid Wrench to start putting on the nuts to help get them off.
I was wondering what is the best stuff to use to get these apart w/o problems?
Any other shock replacement tips are welcome.
Once again, as most things with this trailer, this is new teritory for me
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Steel back then is pretty good grade. the Liquid wrench will most likely do it. If not, heat it up a bit, not red hot, cool it with the liquid wrench. This draws in it into the threads. USE caution, that stuff is very flamable.. If you know wny auto mechanics they deal with stuck fasteners all the time and may have a trick or two...
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'74 Overlander (T-O-Bee)
'46 Spartan Manor (Rosie)
'54 Cruiser (Bogart)
'60 Overlander (Hoagy)
2007 GMC Sierra 2500 HD Duramax
WBCCI 1754 - AIR # 6281
www.balrgn.com
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03-25-2005, 11:18 AM
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Rivet Master
1979 30' Argosy
Havelock
, where we park it
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,652
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Like Mark said PB Blaster, that is the best stuff I have ever found, it dosen't work like wd 40, you will need to let it set for several min. for it to have time to weep in if they are bad which I am sure they will be.
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Marvin & Annie
Niki (fur baby)
1979 Argosy 30 (Costalotta)
WBCCI 10103
"Happiness is a warm Puppy" Charles Schulz
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03-25-2005, 11:31 AM
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Rivet Master
1948 16' Wee Wind
1953 21' Flying Cloud
Denver
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Safari Tim
My worry is they are rusted up pretty well and I don't want to break or strip one out. ... I was wondering what is the best stuff to use to get these apart w/o problems?
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Tim:
The absolutely best rust buster is AeroKroil, available by mail order from the manufacturer, Kano Labs. Details can be found here:
http://www.kanolabs.com/
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Fred Coldwell, WBCCI #1510, AIR #2675
Denver, Colorado - WBCCI Unit 24
Airstream Life "Old Aluminum"
Airstream Life "From the Archives"
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03-25-2005, 01:43 PM
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a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,921
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Thanks for the ideas everyone.
Based on Fred's recommendation I ordered the AeroKroil.
Wish me luck!
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03-25-2005, 02:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
1954 26' Romany Cruiser
1960 26' Overlander
Rockingham County
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,410
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Kroil Rules. Didn't even think of that! Used it in the Machine Shop years back It is by far the best.
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'74 Overlander (T-O-Bee)
'46 Spartan Manor (Rosie)
'54 Cruiser (Bogart)
'60 Overlander (Hoagy)
2007 GMC Sierra 2500 HD Duramax
WBCCI 1754 - AIR # 6281
www.balrgn.com
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03-25-2005, 02:40 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Dec 2002
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As I would want to fit new nuts, I would use a nut splitter to remove the nuts without the possibility of damaging the bolts. Then clean up the bolts, if necessary by using a die, if a wire brush and rust remover doesn't work. The nut splitter is driven by a wrench, and a chisel blade slices across the nut. Ace has one for $12 at http://www.acehardware.com/sm-vpt-pi...i-1290356.html
It's an easy tool to use. Nick.
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Nick Crowhurst, Excella 25 1988, Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Diesel. England in summer, USA in winter.
"The price of freedom is eternal maintenance."
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03-25-2005, 03:01 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2019 28' International
Leonardtown
, Maryland
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 262
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Rusty Bolts
I have posted this in th past but forgot where.
This is what I would do and have done in the past.
Get a Small hand held "burnsmatic" torch and a candle (any candle). Heat the nuts with the torch until very hot, red if possible. Then put the candle on the threaded part. Repeat this cycle several times. The wax will migrate through the threads and a wrench will loosen the nuts very easily. The wax will flame up when you put the torch on a second and third time. Just keep any flammables away from the work area. If nervous keep a wet rag available.
This works for any rust frozen bolts. Use a wire brush to remove any heavy rust.
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2002 Classic Ltd 30'
2007 Dodge 2500, 6.7 Cummins
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03-25-2005, 06:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Colorado Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2003
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I have found Rust Bomb by Conklin works wonders on rusty fasteners. Squirt it on and come back the next day. It has proved indispensable when working on the 55 you see in my avatar. I keept that truck running for over 24 years and never broke or stripped a bolt.
Royce
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Royce (K0RKK) 146.460 simplex
Web page https://spearfishcreek.net/
AIR# 3913
'77' Minuet 6 Metre, behind a 2005 stock Jeep Rubicon with Equa-L-Zer hitch.
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03-25-2005, 10:11 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2004
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The only reason I pulled up this thread is because of the title!
I thought, "YIKES!"
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03-27-2005, 06:09 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,319
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Lou,
Try out www.trucknutz.com for an added accessory for your Airstream. Note that they also come in chrome but cost more. I'm thinking about stringing a set from one of my axles.
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Craig
AIR #0078
'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
265 watt AM Solar, Inc. system
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03-27-2005, 06:19 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,183
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royce
I have found Rust Bomb by Conklin works wonders on rusty fasteners. Squirt it on and come back the next day. It has proved indispensable when working on the 55 you see in my avatar. I keept that truck running for over 24 years and never broke or stripped a bolt.
Royce
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Royce,
Can you find Rust Bomb on the Internet?
Thanks,
Lou
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03-27-2005, 06:23 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidz71
Lou,
Try out www.trucknutz.com for an added accessory for your Airstream. Note that they also come in chrome but cost more. I'm thinking about stringing a set from one of my axles.
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I was thinking about the green Nutz! Hang them from the bottom of my trailer axle!
Nah! The wife would kill me!
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03-27-2005, 08:05 PM
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 5,720
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No (well, little) comment
Lou and Craig,
I think you and I had the same, horrifying thought. I was afraid this thread was going in a whole different direction that was not going to be pretty. Especially when I read:
“Rusty nuts….to help get them off….”
Man, I’ve got to go take my medication now.
Jim
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03-27-2005, 08:12 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Colorado Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 739
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Royce (K0RKK) 146.460 simplex
Web page https://spearfishcreek.net/
AIR# 3913
'77' Minuet 6 Metre, behind a 2005 stock Jeep Rubicon with Equa-L-Zer hitch.
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03-27-2005, 08:35 PM
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a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,921
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Well.... at least I know how to get my questions noticed
If your interested, I can tell you about the $30 I had to pay for a screw...
...for my main door lock...
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Originally Posted by Jim & Susan
Lou and Craig,
I think you and I had the same, horrifying thought. I was afraid this thread was going in a whole different direction that was not going to be pretty. Especially when I read:
“Rusty nuts….to help get them off….”
Man, I’ve got to go take my medication now.
Jim
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03-27-2005, 08:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,319
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And I thought that Royce had just saved the thread heading to the cutting room floor!
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Craig
AIR #0078
'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
265 watt AM Solar, Inc. system
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03-28-2005, 07:32 AM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,183
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Safari Tim
Well.... at least I know how to get my questions noticed
If your interested, I can tell you about the $30 I had to pay for a screw...
...for my main door lock...
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Wow! Did you buy that from everyone's favorite vintage A/S parts supplier?
If so, that was probably the sale price!
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