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View Poll Results: Axle Replacement by year....
'60-'69 vintage - Replaced them 26 16.67%
'60-'69 vintage - Need to replace them 20 12.82%
'60-'69 vintage - My axle(s) are fine 12 7.69%
'70-'79 vintage - Replaced them 24 15.38%
'70-'79 vintage - Need to replace them 25 16.03%
'70-'79 vintage - My axle(s) are fine 32 20.51%
'80-'89 vintage - Replaced them 0 0%
'80-'89 vintage - Need to replace them 1 0.64%
'80-'89 vintage - My axle(s) are fine 10 6.41%
I don't know... 6 3.85%
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Old 08-05-2003, 09:50 AM   #1
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POLL: Axle Replacement

OK, here is the definitive axle poll!

Just curious on number of people who are actually replacing them.

The 'I don't know' choice should be I don't know if they need to be replaced....
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Old 08-05-2003, 10:15 AM   #2
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I did mine. Replaced axles, one set of brake plates, shocks and new tires. Kept original bearings and hubs. Repacked bearings with Amsoil red synthetic grease.

The main reason I did mine was because the curb side was lower than the street side by an inch or two.

We have been out 5 times, since the axle replacement, longest trip was 225 miles one way.

Man, I'll tell you all. Stay out of OHIO!!!



Ohio's interstate system is in about as good as shape as the ALCAN highway was during the 50's. I really feel sorry for the truckers. If you need to test axles, springs, and shocks take I90 across Ohio. Gov. Taft should be hanging his head in shame. This is a big disgrace.
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Old 08-05-2003, 12:31 PM   #3
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I don't know if mine needs replaced or not. I've looked underneith and the arm isn't into the negative yet, but the trailer is sitting pretty low (when you look at the wheelwell lip in relation to the wheel rim), It was pretty hard to wriggle the wheel out of there to do the bearings. Also, I think the trailer is getting a pretty rough ride judging from the cushions all out of place when we get where we're going. Also the panel got knocked loose from the aux heater fan, and the screw which holds the kitchen countertop to the wall keeps coming loose. Seems like after every trip I find more stuff shook loose in there. I don't even want to think about leaving stuff in the fridge again after our ride to Sisters.

I would think a new axle might not be too far in the future, lets say that.
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Old 08-05-2003, 01:39 PM   #4
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POLL: Axle Replacement

Both of my trailers are nearing the time for axle replacement. Since the Minuet will be called upon for most travel for the next 16-months, it will receive the first new axle (if all goes well this Winter). The Overlander will likely get its new axles the following winter - - its axles are actually in worse condition, but the Argosy will be towed approximately 6,000 to 8,000 miles next summer (and it needs all of the help possible in the clearance area).


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My 31' sovereign definately needs new axles, however i can't afford them. i'm 21 and still in school. i took the summer off, bought the airstream and toured the country. about half way through my trip i noticed the back end of my trailer sagging and i new i was in deep crap. the plan was to sell the trailer when i started school but i fell in love with it and i've been hit with the "restoration bug". oh well, time to get a part time job to pay for my new project.
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Morning Dew, are you sure you need new axles, based on the rear end sagging, or are you talking about two seperate problems? Rear end separation fix is more complicated than just replacing axles. Please elaborate more so we can help you.
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Old 08-05-2003, 08:12 PM   #7
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This is one of those items I didn't know about until I found this fourm. Had I known it would have been a show stopper when I bought the AS. This puts the referb cost over the practical range. It's to late now !!!!!!!!!
I will have to replace before next spring.

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Old 08-05-2003, 09:10 PM   #8
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Hey...why doesn't this poll include pre-'60 trailers? Just in case you were wondering, I replaced everything with the exception of leaf springs. Still contemplating adding shocks as none were original on my Trade Wind.

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The Overlander will likely get its new axles the following winter - - its axles are actually in worse condition,


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Kevin,

I was gonna tell you that the axles on your Overlander looked to be sagged out pretty well but figured InlandAndy would have told you first? Maybe he did?

My Minuet axle was probably the worst case ever, the axle arms were almost touching the bottom of the trailer.

Learned a valuable lesson on that one.

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The website only allowed 10 items for the poll. I had to make a management decision

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Hey...why doesn't this poll include pre-'60 trailers? Just in case you were wondering, I replaced everything with the exception of leaf springs. Still contemplating adding shocks as none were original on my Trade Wind.

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Not a problem Tim. Good poll.

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I know they are two seperate problems but they are related. because of the spent axles i now have rear-end seperation. i just returned from my trip and havn't looked it over that much but my trailer, as a whole, sits very low. and the rear end definately sags about an inch or two.
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Old 08-07-2003, 12:35 PM   #13
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rear end seperation

hey can you elaborate on this rear end seperation issue and how to catch it before it is a huge problem. what am i to look for?
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Rear End Seperation

Stand on your rear bumper and wiggle it around. If you can see the gap widening between the bumper and body, then you have it. Creases in the coach body aluminum near the wheel wells is a tell tale sign also.

I was fortunate to buy a coach that had the factory/dealer upgrade with the tell-tale "Elephant Ears" on the rear of the unit.
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Great Idea with the poll, Safari Tim!

Our '72 Sovereign needed the axles replaced. It's made a big difference in towability and ride quality. I have a lot more tire clearance. My wife was following the trailer in her truck on the way to and from the shop and noted that the trailer seemed to be bouncing a lot more going over bumps, whereas before, it was probably just bottoming out. There's some spring there now!

I disagree with Pick, however. The roads in Ohio are GREAT compared to PA and NJ. We just got back from the Statue of Liberty Rally. Those roads were awful! The toll roads are worse than the interstates, too! You'd think they'd put that money to good use and fix them up some. One lady's motorized wheelchair platform almost fell off the back of her motorhome on our caravan through PA and NJ.

We got the axles loaded with brakes. I found the castellated nuts were installed too tight and the brakes needed to be tightened immediately. So be sure and check those things right away if you get new ones.
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When did airstream go to the rubber bushing axle ?

I would like to try to interpret Safari Tim's data as a predictor of when I should expect my 1987 to need new axles.
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I don't think our '85 needs axles, 'cause they are at the same slightly upward angle as all other '80's era Airstreams I have seen (quite a few). I know the traditional wisdom communicated on the Forum is that if the angle is upward, the axles are shot. That probably does apply to the 60's & 70's models, but I question if it applies to the 80's, 90's and beyond. In addition to the fact that I have never seen an 80's Airstream with downward axle angles, and the fact that with upward axle angles 80's Airstreams show the correct amount of tire in the wheel weels, is the fact that the tongue heights listed on the Weights & Measures list on the Airstream company web site decreased from 19.5" to 18.75" between the 1980 and 1981 model years.

My hypothesis is that this tongue height decrease corresponded to an axle angle change. I am guessing that at this time Airstream changed from using 22.5 degree Henshen axles to the 10.0 degree axles. These numbers are the "no load" angles. According to the Henshen web site, for the 22.5 axle, the "normal" loaded position is 0 degress, while for the 10.0 degree axle, the normal" loaded position is upward 12.5 degrees. I'm not sure what load is used to determine the "normal" angle, but this seems to concur with what I have observed on 80's Airstreams.

And while I'm at it, since Thor bought Airstream in 1980, could this be one of the first changes they implemented? I assume the reason would be to lower the coach height, possibly to improve stability (lower center of mass) or to improve ease of entry.

I have never heard anyone else talk about this possible change and the impact it would have on determining whether 80's axles are OK or not. I think I am correct. What do you think?
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The 'I don't know' choice should be I don't know if they need to be replaced....
Hi Tim, can you please help out the "I don't know" people and review the indications that one's axle needs replacement. Is it just the resting angle of the swing arm?

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Steve,

Safari Tim has not been in this thread for almost 2 years.

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