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03-17-2011, 10:20 PM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
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I suspect it needs axles
I haven't put hands on this trailer just yet, but looking at the pictures I'm concerned that it needs axles. It's not exactly a steal, but it's VERY original if the pictures are at all accurate. I'm concerned that the axles are original too.
It's a 1972 Overlander. The seller had it serviced when he bought it, at an Airstream service center, and they told him it didn't need new axles. I'll test the drop before I make any decisions, but am I wrong? It looks like it's sitting too low, I think there should be a bit more tire exposed if it's not heavily loaded.
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03-17-2011, 10:26 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
I haven't put hands on this trailer just yet, but looking at the pictures I'm concerned that it needs axles. It's not exactly a steal, but it's VERY original if the pictures are at all accurate. I'm concerned that the axles are original too.
It's a 1972 Overlander. The seller had it serviced when he bought it, at an Airstream service center, and they told him it didn't need new axles. I'll test the drop before I make any decisions, but am I wrong? It looks like it's sitting too low, I think there should be a bit more tire exposed if it's not heavily loaded.
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The following article will help you check out your axles.
Andy
The Dura-Torque Axle
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03-17-2011, 11:58 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Excella 500
West Sacramento
, California
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On look alone I would say it needs new axles.
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03-18-2011, 07:49 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Tucson
, AZ
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
I haven't put hands on this trailer just yet, but looking at the pictures I'm concerned that it needs axles. It's not exactly a steal, but it's VERY original if the pictures are at all accurate. I'm concerned that the axles are original too.
It's a 1972 Overlander. The seller had it serviced when he bought it, at an Airstream service center, and they told him it didn't need new axles. I'll test the drop before I make any decisions, but am I wrong? It looks like it's sitting too low, I think there should be a bit more tire exposed if it's not heavily loaded.
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When was that?
It probably does need axles - but the test in the article Andy linked is a quick and easy way to determine how *shot* the axles are. Thankfully, it's a rather straight-forward job. You might use the cost of replacement as a barganining chip when negotiating the price....
Laura
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03-18-2011, 08:15 AM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
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Originally Posted by funkill
When was that?
It probably does need axles - but the test in the article Andy linked is a quick and easy way to determine how *shot* the axles are. Thankfully, it's a rather straight-forward job. You might use the cost of replacement as a barganining chip when negotiating the price....
Laura
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The current owner has only had it a year or so, therefore the inspection by the Airstream authorized service center was around a year ago. I'm definitely going to go in with the price of axles in mind, in case it fails the test.
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03-18-2011, 08:39 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
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It's a given....if they are original. The swap is relatively inexpensive...if the fridge is in good shape.
Neil
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04-23-2011, 06:11 PM
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1965 Overlander NJ
1965 26' Overlander
Hillsborough
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I'm also going to be replacing my axles on my 1965 Overlander. Although the torsion arm is pointing slightly downward when loaded, there is not much drop in the wheels when jacked-up. My Dad bought the trailer new in September 1964. It has been in our family since then (now it's mine).
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04-23-2011, 06:19 PM
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Rivet Master
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1984 31' Airstream310
Ajo
, Arizona
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We checked the same stuff when I helped my friend buy this one: axles shot.
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04-23-2011, 06:23 PM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
but looking at the pictures I'm concerned that it needs axles...... , I think there should be a bit more tire exposed if it's not heavily loaded.
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FWIW, I don't think you can tell a whole lot from the picture. If it had been taken level with the tire you could tell more. From above, it is all guess as to how low it is setting. You may get off easy.
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04-24-2011, 09:31 AM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boondocker
FWIW, I don't think you can tell a whole lot from the picture. If it had been taken level with the tire you could tell more. From above, it is all guess as to how low it is setting. You may get off easy.
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Yeah, I went to look at the trailer in these pictures. It had lots of nice original qualities, but needed lots of things. Here's another thread where I went through it and decided it wasn't the right price for this trailer.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f349...rth-75194.html
The trailer sat REALLY low on the axles, and the price wasn't anywhere near as low as the axles so I waited, and ended up finding an Argosy that's a little less original and a lot more functional, with fresh weatherstripping and standing tall on axles that flex nicely when you take weight off them.
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04-26-2011, 05:13 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 19' Globetrotter
South Kingstown
, Rhode Island
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Ugh. So all this talk of axles, and the strange way ours bounces when its towed, and the popping rivets inside made me look more closely.. and our axles point up slightly, rather than down. No fridge, tanks empty, no gas bottles, the trailer is pretty light and empty. I started getting prices today to have it done. Sigh. But then it will be done.
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04-26-2011, 05:55 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream - Other
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Bosque Farms
, New Mexico
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Close to what ours was. And once I replaced the axles, we discovered that the one of us with the most miserable knees needed a little stool in order to get into the rig.
Lynn
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Originally Posted by Globie64
Ugh. So all this talk of axles, and the strange way ours bounces when its towed, and the popping rivets inside made me look more closely.. and our axles point up slightly, rather than down. No fridge, tanks empty, no gas bottles, the trailer is pretty light and empty. I started getting prices today to have it done. Sigh. But then it will be done.
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04-26-2011, 06:48 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Globie64
Ugh. So all this talk of axles, and the strange way ours bounces when its towed, and the popping rivets inside made me look more closely.. and our axles point up slightly, rather than down. No fridge, tanks empty, no gas bottles, the trailer is pretty light and empty. I started getting prices today to have it done. Sigh. But then it will be done.
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We suggest you alter the ratings of the original axles, for more pay load, and greater ground clearance. Some place can't help you with that.
Andy
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04-26-2011, 07:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 19' Globetrotter
South Kingstown
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Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
We suggest you alter the ratings of the original axles, for more pay load, and greater ground clearance. Some place can't help you with that.
Andy
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Hey Andy, are you suggesting I can adjust the current axles?
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04-26-2011, 07:44 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 19' Globetrotter
South Kingstown
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I'm going with the 5200# axles, 12"/6 lug drums
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04-26-2011, 07:54 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Originally Posted by Globie64
Hey Andy, are you suggesting I can adjust the current axles?
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Nope, since it can't be done.
Andy
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04-26-2011, 08:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Excella 500
Charleston
, South Carolina
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I'm pretty sure that me means replace with a higher rated axle to carry more weight than the original. If you are nice he might tell you what the min and max ratings are for your particular trailer.
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04-26-2011, 08:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 19' Globetrotter
South Kingstown
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OK. I figured that it had a 2850 dry weight, and that we couldn't pack enough stuff to overload a 5200# axle, but I wonder what Andy would say? I've been going to Barstad and Donicht in San Leandro, I've been really happy with the quality of their work in the past.
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04-26-2011, 08:13 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Excella 500
Charleston
, South Carolina
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I have a 74 31' Excella. If I remember correctly Andy told me orig. was 4000, max 4400. So I went with the 4400.
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04-26-2011, 08:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 17' Caravel
1983 27' Excella
Walnut Grove/Laguna Woods
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
We suggest you alter the ratings of the original axles, for more pay load, and greater ground clearance. Some place can't help you with that.
Andy
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Right on Andy.
Check the tag on your original axles. The original axles on our '83 were rated at 2,800 lbs. The trailer, from the factory new, empty, no water, food, nothing, weighed about 5,400 lbs.
We went to 3.500 lb, 32 degree axles. Yes, the trailer sits higher than it would with standard axles, bit I can pull into driveways, gas stations, etc. with no problem, and have an additional 2-3" clearance going down the road. Not a bad thing.
Yes, it sits higher, but isn't that why it has that nice folding step?
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