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outofcontrol · 03-11-2013, 05:14 PM

I had my suspicions, but I'm pretty sure we need new axles. From fully loaded to up in the air, they move 1.25". I'm looking for more ride height anyway, so I guess it's time to throw $1200 at it on new axles.

I thought the ramps were rated to 3500lbs? Must be for the pair.

-Kevin

Colin H · 03-12-2013, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by outofcontrol

I had my suspicions, but I'm pretty sure we need new axles. From fully loaded to up in the air, they move 1.25". I'm looking for more ride height anyway, so I guess it's time to throw $1200 at it on new axles.

I thought the ramps were rated to 3500lbs? Must be for the pair.

-Kevin

These ramps typically have a link between the base at each end................perhaps these are made of Chinesium

Colin

**Action** · 03-12-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Colin H

................perhaps these are made of Chinesium

Colin

Chinesium (Ch) a synthesized element with an atomic number of 122 .....from the periodic table ..... Also known as you one tu tu.

Periodic table - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the "F" block of "transitional" metals!

Not the best metal on the table.

<>>>>>>>>>>>Action

outofcontrol · 03-13-2013, 04:18 AM

American made. Rated to 6500lbs. About 20 years old.

Kind of tired of the China bashing. It's Walmart and Harbor Freight you should be bashing.

-Kevin

crispyboy · 03-13-2013, 05:29 AM

As Colin stated those ramps seem to be missing a strut on the bottom to tie both ends together.
I'm yet to see a decent tool come from China......... I have been to Harbor Freight and the Walmart tool isle only to have my skin crawl in disgust.

Pick · 03-13-2013, 06:01 AM

I have been satisfied with the vast majority of the items I bought from HF. The only problem I have had so far, is the water trap/filter on my soda blaster started leaking. I just eliminated it. Whole thing was only $35, so no big deal.

Boxite · 04-21-2015, 08:17 PM

I own an exact copy of a pair.... made in U.S. as far as I know..... had 'em for 30 years at least...
They don't handle loads placed on them at odd angels well... and they never had the brace mentioned above. (The reason I bought them was in order to have access thru/beneath them... a feat not always available with braced sets.... tho' true.... not as strong design.)

cwf · 04-21-2015, 08:43 PM

Man, just secure the trailer and get a good bottle jack to lift.

PaulnGina · 04-21-2015, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cwf

Man, just secure the trailer and get a good bottle jack to lift.

Ditto. Bottle jack = good.

FishByFly · 04-21-2015, 10:15 PM

And where do you position the bottle jack to lift the wheels?

FishByFly
because I catch fish on a fly...

2005 30' Safari Bunkhouse
2010 F250 Lariat

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Boxite · 04-22-2015, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FishByFly

And where do you position the bottle jack to lift the wheels?

FishByFly
because I catch fish on a fly...

2005 30' Safari Bunkhouse
2010 F250 Lariat

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Exactly. I own at least a dozen jacks of all sorts including bottles, floor, bumper, and hyd. lifts, but there are some jobs for which only ramps will suffice. Solid ramps (and I don't trust plastic at all) block a lot of access, depending upon the task.

PaulnGina · 04-22-2015, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FishByFly

And where do you position the bottle jack to lift the wheels?

FishByFly
because I catch fish on a fly...

2005 30' Safari Bunkhouse
2010 F250 Lariat

Sent from my iPad using Airstream Forums

What was I thinking? Our Avion has a real frame to lift on.

Foiled Again · 04-22-2015, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulnGina

What was I thinking? Our Avion has a real frame to lift on.

Soon I shall join the smug "big frame" Avion owners! On the road to pick up the 10 meter! Am I excited? Moi? Paula

PaulnGina · 04-22-2015, 04:32 PM

Have a safe, enjoyable trip, Paula. Can't wait to see some pics from the trip!

(Yes, I DO like our Avion! You'll see......

)

Jim & Susan · 04-22-2015, 07:21 PM

Make yerself a couple of these. Made from simple wood, screwed together with wood screws. Basic dimensions are 24L x 12W x 6H (inches, o'course). They don't break, but will degrade over time like any wood product. All they cost me was a few beers because my buddy wanted to get that odd sized chuck of laminated wood out of his shop.

They also have the added advantage of not sending money to people you don't like.

Jim

lahrfarm · 04-22-2015, 07:36 PM

The OP said 1,25" of movement, what is the correct spec?

perryg114 · 04-22-2015, 08:03 PM

1.25" from already fully loaded. How about jack it off the wheels then put one wheel on the ramp and see what the total travel is from no load to overload.

Axles become less important when you use soft riding car tires at 50 psi instead of trailer tires at 80psi. That soft tire sucks up a lot of the bumps.

Perry

lahrfarm · 04-22-2015, 08:18 PM

I own a few trailers with torsion axles and with leaf spring axles. Leaf springs have a lot more travel than torsion, when new. My question is what is the specification on a given size of torsion axel, and where would you find it. Actually, 1.25" sounds about right, but I have no spec chart to go off of.

perryg114 · 04-23-2015, 06:16 AM

I think torsion axles are more hype that anything else. It is a disposable solution for a non-disposable problem.

Perry

xrvr · 04-23-2015, 06:30 AM

Hijack. Let's not let this get into an Avion vs AS debate. Ive liked all the AS I owned and think my Avion is great. But remember this is an airstream forum, vintage kin are allowed at the wim of the forum owner and the moderators. Pointing out the differences is interesting but let's not get carried away as to which Is best. There are three Avion facebook groups, I check them everyday, however they are not comparable to the Airforums. Just my opinion. I am greatful to be able to participate in the forum and the forum get togethers. Peace, jim